Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:09:24PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
  It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
  about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?
 
 I see your point, but your suggestion is still too long: it should be
 rephrased to stay within 60-65 characters.

I though the limit was 60 chars, as stated in one of the debian
documents.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 [...]
Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
  GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
 
 Description field is inappropriate, use something like:
 
 Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.

You mean something like:

Description: alternative to GNU autoconf source code configuration system

* lose the article
* lose the full stop
* do not capitalize the beginning of the description unless a proper
  noun, proper adjective, abbreviation, or acronym requires it
* I don't know what GNU/autoconf is.  Is that like GNU/Linux?
* short description still doesn't help people who don't know what
  autoconf is

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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: pmk
  Version : 0.4.5
  Upstream Author : Damien Couderc  Xavier Santolaria
* URL : http://premk.sf.net/
* License : BSD
  Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf 
(configure scripts).

First a quote from the about page for the project:

Our primary goals are :

* Avoid the use of scripts in packages that can hide trojans.
* Try to keep the needed dependancies near from zero (actually we're at
  zero).
* Make it easy to use for users and developpers.
* Provide the package in a free and usable license for everybody (BSD). 

Their goals seem to be met so far. The whole thing is written in C, doesn't
depend on perl/m4/shell etc., it's rather easy to use featuring a simple
config file format, autoconf compatibility (output-wise), is supported on
quite a few software platforms (including Debian). The system defaults are 
configured in a global config file which makes the usage pretty consistent 
accross all the installations.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux beowulf 2.5.73-mm1 #1 Tue Jun 24 15:31:14 CEST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL




Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis 
scribbled:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 [...]
Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
  GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
 
 Description field is inappropriate, use something like:
 
 Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.
Good point. I just cut and pasted it from their about page out of laziness
:)

thanks,

marek


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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
[...]
   Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf 
 (configure scripts).

Description field is inappropriate, use something like:

Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.

ciao,
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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 [...]
Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
  GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
 
 Description field is inappropriate, use something like:

 Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.

Try an alternative to GNU autoconf or a substitute for GNU autoconf,
to avoid confusion with Debian's alternatives system.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:46:52PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis 
 scribbled:
  On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
  [...]
 Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
   GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
  
  Description field is inappropriate, use something like:
  
  Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.
 Good point. I just cut and pasted it from their about page out of laziness
 :)

That's inappropriate as well.  Rather than saying this is an alternative to
foo, say what it does, and then say similar to foo.


 
 thanks,
 
 marek





Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis 
 wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
  [...]
 Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
   GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
  
  Description field is inappropriate, use something like:
 
  Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.
 
 Try an alternative to GNU autoconf or a substitute for GNU autoconf,
 to avoid confusion with Debian's alternatives system.
It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

marek


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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled:
  On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis 
  wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
   [...]
  Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to 
GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).
   
   Description field is inappropriate, use something like:
  
   Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative.

  Try an alternative to GNU autoconf or a substitute for GNU autoconf,
  to avoid confusion with Debian's alternatives system.
 It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
 about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

That seems sensible.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
 about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

Sorry for my previous reply to this message, your suggestion is definitely
good.

ciao,
-- 
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aliases: Luca ^De [A-Z][A-Za-z\-]*[iy]'\?s$ | as fine or rude sentences have
Luca, a wannabe ``Good guy''.   | something in common: they
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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
 It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
 about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

I see your point, but your suggestion is still too long: it should be
rephrased to stay within 60-65 characters.

What about A source configuring tool like GNU/Autoconf?

ciao,
-- 
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis  | Elegant or ugly code as well
aliases: Luca ^De [A-Z][A-Za-z\-]*[iy]'\?s$ | as fine or rude sentences have
Luca, a wannabe ``Good guy''.   | something in common: they
local LANG=[EMAIL PROTECTED] | don't depend on the 
language.


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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled:
  Try an alternative to GNU autoconf or a substitute for GNU autoconf,
  to avoid confusion with Debian's alternatives system.
 It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
 about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

  Ugh.  That's awfully wordy.  I don't think there's that much danger of
confusion with the alternatives system, and IMO the slight risk is
outweighed by how cumbersome the sentence above is.  I think an
alternative to GNU autoconf is a better choice.

  Daniel

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Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:14:56PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis 
scribbled:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
  It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How
  about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?
 
 Sorry for my previous reply to this message, your suggestion is definitely
 good.
OK, so if there are no more objections, I will proceed with uploading the
tool to Debian RSN :)

marek


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