Bug#248397: GRUB 2 RFH

[Jonathan Nieder]

Hi!

Robert Millan wrote:

 20:43 bartm right, hello robert
 20:43 bartm still need help with grub ?
 20:43 bartm not yet replaced by grub2...
 20:43 bartm i'm not sure how I can help besides commenting on the bug report
 20:44 bartm or can I do the next upload, to include the good patches ?
[...]
 20:50 nyu if you want to help, you could subscribe to
 pkg-grub-devel (debian) and grub-devel (upstream) and see if you can
 comment on bug reports

I'm doing a few seconds of triage of wnpp bugs.

If I understand correctly, the grub team, like most maintenance teams
of core packages, is looking for helpers and co-maintainers.  I don't
see grub listed at http://wiki.debian.org/Teams so it seems possible
that potential helpers exist who do not know how to get their feet wet
without establishing contact first and potentially (in their eyes)
having to commit to helping out before knowing what it is like.

What do you recommend for such hypothetical people?  Could you suggest
a few words of wisdom here, for someone to digest and add to the wiki
as time allows?

For example:

 - what mailing lists should interested people subscribe to?

 - are there existing documents on how to test new versions of grub in
   qemu to test changes or triage bugs?  Is there an upstream page
   with documentation of the boot protocol and other helpful technical
   background?

 - any confusing policies or other pitfalls for new contributors?

 - what kind of help is needed at the moment --- tracking upstream
   development, testing, forwarding bugs, finding the commit that
   fixes bugs known to have been fixed, backporting changes to stable,
   hacking on maintainer scripts, packaging snapshots for
   experimental, reviewing proposed changes, coordinating uploads,
   finding good downstream fixes to apply, or something else?

Once the information for potential helpers to get started is easy to
find, I think this bug can be closed.

Thanks and hope that helps,
Jonathan



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Bug#248397: GRUB 2 RFH

[Robert Millan]

retitle 248397 grub2 -- GRand Unified Bootloader
thanks

20:43 bartm right, hello robert
20:43 bartm still need help with grub ?
20:43 bartm not yet replaced by grub2...
20:43 bartm i'm not sure how I can help besides commenting on the bug report
20:44 bartm or can I do the next upload, to include the good patches ?
[...]
20:49 nyu the report is for grub2 now, basically
20:49 nyu grub legacy is a dead branch, don't waste your time on it
20:49 bartm hmm
20:50 nyu if you want to help, you could subscribe to pkg-grub-devel (debian) 
and grub-devel (upstream) and see if you can comment on bug reports
20:50 bartm shouldn't then grub be orphaned/removed and grub2 take its place 
in queeze now ?
20:50 bartm that is, squeeze, obviously :)
20:50 nyu yes
20:50 nyu but it's a slow process
20:51 nyu http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition documents what's missing in 
order to transition
20:51 nyu this should be worked on in coordination with upstream
20:51 bartm please comment that on the RFH
20:51 nyu mind if I just copy-paste this conversation?
20:52 bartm ok go ahead

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