Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: debian-br-team-tools
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-br-team/
* License : GPL
  Description : Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

 This packages contains some useful metainfo and tools for the Debian 
 Brasil Packaging Team including:
   * documentation
   * list of team members
 .
 Homepage: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-br-team/


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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Matthew Palmer]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 03:46:30PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
>   Version : 0.1
>   Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Erm...

> * URL : http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-br-team/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team
> 
>  This packages contains some useful metainfo and tools for the Debian 
>  Brasil Packaging Team including:
>* documentation
>* list of team members

Would this...

>  Homepage: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-br-team/

Be better left here?  Honestly, we have a huge Packages file already, and
keeping the stuff you propose to stash in the package up-to-date (especially
in a stable release, should this ever end up in one) is going to be an
absolute pest.  It would be much easier just to leave it on the team
website, and point people at that.

If there are programs in the package, consider whether they might be of use
to others if they were generalised.  Packaging scripts might be helpful to
others, and translation stuff could probably be handy for other languages'
translation teams.  Consider submitting the scripts for inclusion in the
relevant script bundle package, or if there is nothing appropriate, then
make a package with a useful description to carry all of these tools.

Please, think of the archive.

- Matt


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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

GNOME and Debian-BR teams, any ideas on creating a single package to
provide meta-information for all teams in Debian? This way we will avoid
creating a package for each team, when all they need is a canonical list
of uploaders... read below:

Em Ter, 2004-11-16 às 08:06 +1100, Matthew Palmer escreveu:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 03:46:30PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> >   Version : 0.1
> >   Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Erm...

ugh =D

> Be better left here?  Honestly, we have a huge Packages file already, and
> keeping the stuff you propose to stash in the package up-to-date (especially
> in a stable release, should this ever end up in one) is going to be an
> absolute pest.  It would be much easier just to leave it on the team
> website, and point people at that.

Sure, no problem with that, for me.

> If there are programs in the package, consider whether they might be of use
> to others if they were generalised.  Packaging scripts might be helpful to
> others, and translation stuff could probably be handy for other languages'
> translation teams.  Consider submitting the scripts for inclusion in the
> relevant script bundle package, or if there is nothing appropriate, then
> make a package with a useful description to carry all of these tools.

Yeah, the problem here is mainly the list of people who are part of the
team. It must be in a canonical, central location, and the solution
'till now is using a package to carry this list. Maybe we can create a
single package to carry all the teams meta-info in the future?

> Please, think of the archive.

Yeah...

Thanks,

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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Otavio Salvador]

|| On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:16:18 -0200
|| Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>> If there are programs in the package, consider whether they might be of use
>> to others if they were generalised.  Packaging scripts might be helpful to
>> others, and translation stuff could probably be handy for other languages'
>> translation teams.  Consider submitting the scripts for inclusion in the
>> relevant script bundle package, or if there is nothing appropriate, then
>> make a package with a useful description to carry all of these tools.

gns> Yeah, the problem here is mainly the list of people who are part of the
gns> team. It must be in a canonical, central location, and the solution
gns> 'till now is using a package to carry this list. Maybe we can create a
gns> single package to carry all the teams meta-info in the future?

IMHO, the only way to do it is getting a remote file where we have a
map of witch person -> team and then trivial scripts to use it. In
this way we can easely share the same tools between all teams.

What all think about?

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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Qua, 2004-11-17 às 08:50 -0200, Otavio Salvador escreveu:
> gns> Yeah, the problem here is mainly the list of people who are part of the
> gns> team. It must be in a canonical, central location, and the solution
> gns> 'till now is using a package to carry this list. Maybe we can create a
> gns> single package to carry all the teams meta-info in the future?
> 
> IMHO, the only way to do it is getting a remote file where we have a
> map of witch person -> team and then trivial scripts to use it. In
> this way we can easely share the same tools between all teams.
> 
> What all think about?

Thought about that. It's not a good thing because then you now
build-depend on a working internet connection, which not always is the
case.

Thanks,

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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Otavio Salvador]

|| On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:50:33 -0200
|| Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

gns> Em Qua, 2004-11-17 às 08:50 -0200, Otavio Salvador escreveu:
gns> Yeah, the problem here is mainly the list of people who are part of the
gns> team. It must be in a canonical, central location, and the solution
gns> 'till now is using a package to carry this list. Maybe we can create a
gns> single package to carry all the teams meta-info in the future?
>> 
>> IMHO, the only way to do it is getting a remote file where we have a
>> map of witch person -> team and then trivial scripts to use it. In
>> this way we can easely share the same tools between all teams.
>> 
>> What all think about?

gns> Thought about that. It's not a good thing because then you now
gns> build-depend on a working internet connection, which not always is the
gns> case.

Sure but how share it without the need of every team change repackage
it and send another revision?

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Bug#281416: ITP: debian-br-team-tools -- Tools for the Debian Brasil Packaging Team

[Gustavo R. Montesino]

On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 10:59:32AM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> || On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:50:33 -0200
> || Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> gns> Em Qua, 2004-11-17 �s 08:50 -0200, Otavio Salvador escreveu:
> gns> Yeah, the problem here is mainly the list of people who are part of the
> gns> team. It must be in a canonical, central location, and the solution
> gns> 'till now is using a package to carry this list. Maybe we can create a
> gns> single package to carry all the teams meta-info in the future?
> >> 
> >> IMHO, the only way to do it is getting a remote file where we have a
> >> map of witch person -> team and then trivial scripts to use it. In
> >> this way we can easely share the same tools between all teams.
> >> 
> >> What all think about?
> 
> gns> Thought about that. It's not a good thing because then you now
> gns> build-depend on a working internet connection, which not always is the
> gns> case.
> 

Hmm... Would it be that bad to have a debian-teams repository writable
by the coordinators of various teams to generate a package of the same name
(co-maintained by these coordinators, of course)? It doesn't looks very
nice indeed, but I think it may be done (and can't think on anything
better either).

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Debian-BR Project - http://www.debian-br.org/