Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-19 Thread Robert Millan [ackstorm]
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 03:41:20PM -0500, Raphael wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure about this, but I think DD's won't like upgrade stuff
> from a package that never existed in the Debian rep to a new coming
> one.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me.  Specially if there has been a
debian package around, even if not part of Debian.

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Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-18 Thread Raphael

On 18/06/07, Hendrik Frenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Raphael schrieb:
> Hello,
>
> On 18/06/07, Hendrik Frenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, the plans are to provide the debian/ scripts from upstream; and
> > of course making any required change to ispCP so there's no need of
> > applying any patch for the Debian package.
> > And as you may see in http://www.isp-control.net/ispcp/ticket/394
> > there are still some thing to do.
>
> > If you wish to help the packaging I guess we can work together, so
> > maybe you can get svn access (I'll talk to the others about all
> > this.).
>

I think an idependend debian/ might be the better solution, as it is
not recommended in upstream source[1],
but it is a good thing working together on packaging.


Well, not really, because it would be what is know as a Debian-native
package; and that's ok, mainly because the default Makefile's and
configs are meant to work with Debian.



I already have clean vhcs packages (sarge only) and already work on
ispcp (sid), so you don't have to reinvent the wheel and start from
scratch. I can inject my files into SVN if I got access to it, but at
the actual state I prefer to send you my debian/ as tar.gz.


I don't have plans on starting packaging until the ticket I mentioned
on my last message is closed. And like I said, I want to make all the
changes directly into the source so there's no need to patch anything.



> I think in about 2-4 Weeks the 1st packages can be tested.
>
> Only the update-path from vhcs to ispcp might be a not so trivial
> problem, because the database names and many paths
> have changed.
>
> > I'm not sure about this, but I think DD's won't like upgrade stuff
> > from a package that never existed in the Debian rep to a new coming
> > one. You would have to provide that feature on your own packages.
> > But I think you'll want to wait until our vhcs to ispCP script is
> ready.

Ok, vhcs never existed in official debian repositories, but i got many
users who installed vhcs off my old apt.scunc.it and they should also
be able to use apt / dpkg for easy upgrading their installations. I
think a clean upgrade between vhcs and ispcp is a must.


I know. I can tell you I'm one of them ;-) but I don't have to forget
the fact that it never existed in the Debian rep, so an upgrade system
will be considered pointless in the main repository.



Bye
Hendrik

[1]
http://people.debian.org/~daniel/documents/packaging.html#debian-directory

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Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-18 Thread Hendrik Frenzel
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Raphael schrieb:
> Hello,
>
> On 18/06/07, Hendrik Frenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, the plans are to provide the debian/ scripts from upstream; and
> > of course making any required change to ispCP so there's no need of
> > applying any patch for the Debian package.
> > And as you may see in http://www.isp-control.net/ispcp/ticket/394
> > there are still some thing to do.
>
> > If you wish to help the packaging I guess we can work together, so
> > maybe you can get svn access (I'll talk to the others about all
> > this.).
>

I think an idependend debian/ might be the better solution, as it is
not recommended in upstream source[1],
but it is a good thing working together on packaging.

I already have clean vhcs packages (sarge only) and already work on
ispcp (sid), so you don't have to reinvent the wheel and start from
scratch. I can inject my files into SVN if I got access to it, but at
the actual state I prefer to send you my debian/ as tar.gz.

> I think in about 2-4 Weeks the 1st packages can be tested.
>
> Only the update-path from vhcs to ispcp might be a not so trivial
> problem, because the database names and many paths
> have changed.
>
> > I'm not sure about this, but I think DD's won't like upgrade stuff
> > from a package that never existed in the Debian rep to a new coming
> > one. You would have to provide that feature on your own packages.
> > But I think you'll want to wait until our vhcs to ispCP script is
> ready.

Ok, vhcs never existed in official debian repositories, but i got many
users who installed vhcs off my old apt.scunc.it and they should also
be able to use apt / dpkg for easy upgrading their installations. I
think a clean upgrade between vhcs and ispcp is a must.

Bye
Hendrik

[1]
http://people.debian.org/~daniel/documents/packaging.html#debian-directory

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Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-18 Thread Raphael

Hello,

On 18/06/07, Hendrik Frenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Hi,

i'm currently working at the ispcp packages, so there is no need to restart the 
packaging.

The packages builds lintian clean at the moment and installs the files a bit 
FHS conform.
Now i'm starting convert the config and {pre,post}{ins,rm} of my VHCS Packages 
to ispcp.


Well, the plans are to provide the debian/ scripts from upstream; and
of course making any required change to ispCP so there's no need of
applying any patch for the Debian package.
And as you may see in http://www.isp-control.net/ispcp/ticket/394
there are still some thing to do.

If you wish to help the packaging I guess we can work together, so
maybe you can get svn access (I'll talk to the others about all
this.).




I think in about 2-4 Weeks the 1st packages can be tested.

Only the update-path from vhcs to ispcp might be a not so trivial problem, 
because the database names and many paths
have changed.


I'm not sure about this, but I think DD's won't like upgrade stuff
from a package that never existed in the Debian rep to a new coming
one. You would have to provide that feature on your own packages.
But I think you'll want to wait until our vhcs to ispCP script is ready.



Bye
Hendrik
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Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-18 Thread Hendrik Frenzel
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Hi,

i'm currently working at the ispcp packages, so there is no need to restart the 
packaging.

The packages builds lintian clean at the moment and installs the files a bit 
FHS conform.
Now i'm starting convert the config and {pre,post}{ins,rm} of my VHCS Packages 
to ispcp.

I think in about 2-4 Weeks the 1st packages can be tested.

Only the update-path from vhcs to ispcp might be a not so trivial problem, 
because the database names and many paths
have changed.

Bye
Hendrik
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Bug#283005: ispCP debian package

2007-06-12 Thread Raphael

Hello,

I would like to notify that upstream (including me) has plans to
create it's Debian package.
I've already identified some changes that need to be made so it can be
packaged without patching anything.

Please see: http://www.isp-control.net/ispcp/ticket/394

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