Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2007-06-02 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Paul,

About your "intent to package":
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=378112
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gzrt/

Have you noticed that there's a newer upstream release ?
http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/

Regards,

Bart Martens



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Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-13 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: gzrt
  Version : 0.4
  Upstream Author : Aaron M. Renn
* URL : http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : gzip recovery toolkit

gzrecover will attempt to skip over corrupted data in a gzip archive,
thereby allowing the remaining data to be recovered.

Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged
gzipped tarballs.

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Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:

> Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged
> gzipped tarballs.

I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the
suggests. 

I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz
will be the most common type of file being recovered and because
suggests/recommends do not tell humans exactly how/why cpio is useful to
install alongside gzrt.

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Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:14 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> 
> > Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged
> > gzipped tarballs.
> 
> I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the
> suggests. 
> 
> I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz
> will be the most common type of file being recovered

I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would
make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest.


Thijs


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Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:14 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the
> > suggests. 
> > 
> > I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz
> > will be the most common type of file being recovered
> 
> I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would
> make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest.

"a common type"?  Come on, that's not just "common", it's "a vast
majority of cases".  And, a hard Depend on a small priority=important
package is not a big burden -- what about just having a dependency
without the comment?

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Bug#378112: Depends vs. Recommends (Was: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit)

2006-07-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Jens Peter Secher cites Policy:
> The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is
> required for the depending package to provide a significant
> amount of functionality.

It has been (somewhat convincingly) argued that repairing broken tar.gz
is "a significant amount of functionality" a user gets from gzrt.

Kind regards

T.
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Bug#378112: Depends vs. Recommends (Was: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit)

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>> 
>> I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would
>> make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest.
>
> "a common type"?  Come on, that's not just "common", it's "a vast
> majority of cases".  And, a hard Depend on a small priority=important
> package is not a big burden -- what about just having a dependency
> without the comment?

No.

And the reason can be found in Policy section 7.2:

Depends

This declares an absolute dependency. A package will not be
configured unless all of the packages listed in its Depends
field have been correctly configured.

The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is
required for the depending package to provide a significant
amount of functionality.

The Depends field should also be used if the postinst, prerm or
postrm scripts require the package to be present in order to
run. Note, however, that the postrm cannot rely on any
non-essential packages to be present during the purge phase.

Recommends

This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.

The Recommends field should list packages that would be found
together with this one in all but unusual installations.


The dependency system is used to make sure things don't break on the
_system_ level.  To ease upgrades, transitions, etc., dependencies
(Depends) should be kept to the absolute minimum.

Cheers,
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Q. Why is top posting bad?



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