Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-03 Thread md
On Nov 02, Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One other question: do all variants of this device require firmware from the
 driver, or only some of them?  (Just asking because several other ralink 
 cards,
 such as rt2500, do not seem to require the driver to supply firmware.)  If
 some variants of the device will work without supplied firmware, then the
 driver can go to main, regardless of where or if the firmware gets 
 distributed.

The driver can go in main anyway, since it's the hardware device which
uses the firmware and not the driver.

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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-03 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Dnia piątek, 3 listopada 2006 13:27, md napisał:
 On Nov 02, Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One other question: do all variants of this device require firmware from
  the driver, or only some of them?  (Just asking because several other
  ralink cards, such as rt2500, do not seem to require the driver to supply
  firmware.)  If some variants of the device will work without supplied
  firmware, then the driver can go to main, regardless of where or if the
  firmware gets distributed.

 The driver can go in main anyway, since it's the hardware device which
 uses the firmware and not the driver.

The packages from main should work without things from non-free, I think...
The rt73 driver without firmware is useless.

I'm trying to get an information if firmware is distributable. The status of 
firmware is unknown, yet.

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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 03, Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The packages from main should work without things from non-free, I think...
The rule is that they must not depend on packages not in main.
Work without other things is not the criteria we use, and e.g. ICQ
clients fail it.

 The rt73 driver without firmware is useless.
No, the functionality of the driver does not change. It's your hardware
which is useless until a firmware is loaded on it.

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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-02 Thread Kel Modderman
On Thursday 02 November 2006 08:55, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 * Package name: rt73
   Upstream author : Paul Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Version : 1.0.3.6
 * URL :
 http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6.tar.gz *
 License : GPL
   Programming Lang: C
   Description : Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

 I am the owner of USB-stick Wi-Fi network interface (Edimax EW-7318Ug). The
 only working driver is Ralink RT73 original driver. I'd like to see this
 driver in Debian distribution.

 I want to provide rt73-source package which is compatible with
 module-assistant. The resulting package (rt73-module-$VERSION) contains
 rt73.ko driver. The driver loads firmware from separate file and has
 included the blob with the default firmware if separate file is not
 available.

 I think the driver can go to contrib with removed the blob from its sources
 and with the firmware rt73.bin file can go to non-free as rt73-firmware
 package.

 The rt73.bin file is marked as GPL. There is no real source code included
 but this license implies that it is redistributable file at least as
 non-free.

I notice you quote upstream origin is ralinktech.com, but what about the rt73 
drivers from rt2x00 project[1], that are maintained and bugfixed by a bunch 
of cool hackers, and are the origin of the existing rt2400, rt2500, rt2570  
and rt2x00 source packages already in debian?

Thanks, Kel.

[1] http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/


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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-02 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Dnia czwartek, 2 listopada 2006 08:50, Kel Modderman napisał:
  I want to provide rt73-source package which is compatible with
  module-assistant. The resulting package (rt73-module-$VERSION) contains
  rt73.ko driver. The driver loads firmware from separate file and has
  included the blob with the default firmware if separate file is not
  available.
 
  I think the driver can go to contrib with removed the blob from its
  sources and with the firmware rt73.bin file can go to non-free as
  rt73-firmware package.
 
  The rt73.bin file is marked as GPL. There is no real source code included
  but this license implies that it is redistributable file at least as
  non-free.

 I notice you quote upstream origin is ralinktech.com, but what about the
 rt73 drivers from rt2x00 project[1], that are maintained and bugfixed by a
 bunch of cool hackers, and are the origin of the existing rt2400, rt2500,
 rt2570 and rt2x00 source packages already in debian?

 Thanks, Kel.

 [1] http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/

Those driver from rt2x00 project simply *does* *not* work, at least for Ad-Hoc 
mode with WEP key enabled.

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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
 The driver loads firmware from separate file and has included
 the blob with the default firmware if separate file is not available.
 
 I think the driver can go to contrib with removed the blob from its sources

Yes.

 and with the firmware rt73.bin file can go to non-free as rt73-firmware 
 package.

 The rt73.bin file is marked as GPL. There is no real source code included but
 this license implies that it is redistributable file at least as non-free.

No.  Distribution of a GPLed binary requires provision of the preferred form
for modification; if Debian does not have that, Debian cannot distribute the
firmware at all.

Also, does the binary have an explicit GPL license attached (some file
specifically says that the firmware falls under the GPL, and/or the version in
the driver source has a GPL header above the firmware binary), or does it just
reside in the driver next to all the GPLed source and a copy of the GPL?  If
the latter, it may not actually fall under the GPL, and you should request a
specific license for it.  (Whether or not upstream intended it as GPLed does
not affect distributability, but it does affect how you approach upstream; in
one case you just need to ask about a license for the firmware, and in the
other case you need to explain the issues about GPLing a binary.  Also, as
usual, throwing in a request for the source as a lark couldn't hurt; worst
case, they say no, no harm done.)

One other question: do all variants of this device require firmware from the
driver, or only some of them?  (Just asking because several other ralink cards,
such as rt2500, do not seem to require the driver to supply firmware.)  If
some variants of the device will work without supplied firmware, then the
driver can go to main, regardless of where or if the firmware gets distributed.

- Josh Triplett



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Bug#396648: ITP: rt73 -- Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

2006-11-01 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: rt73
  Upstream author : Paul Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Version : 1.0.3.6
* URL : 
http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Linux device driver for Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card

I am the owner of USB-stick Wi-Fi network interface (Edimax EW-7318Ug). The
only working driver is Ralink RT73 original driver. I'd like to see this driver
in Debian distribution.

I want to provide rt73-source package which is compatible with
module-assistant. The resulting package (rt73-module-$VERSION) contains
rt73.ko driver. The driver loads firmware from separate file and has included
the blob with the default firmware if separate file is not available.

I think the driver can go to contrib with removed the blob from its sources
and with the firmware rt73.bin file can go to non-free as rt73-firmware package.

The rt73.bin file is marked as GPL. There is no real source code included but
this license implies that it is redistributable file at least as non-free.


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