Bug#522196: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

2009-04-04 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano
Hello,

Brett Parker  writes:

> I thought they all now dynamically linked against xulrunner so that security
> support was much simpler than before, so it's really just a frontend more than
> a clone of firefox, no?

Yes, I think Iceweasel and Icecat can share xulrunner without problems.

After the discussion with Mike I think what is really important is the
possibility to use only free plugins and addons, no matter if Icecat or
Iceweasel.

Regards,
Giuseppe



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Bug#522196: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

2009-04-03 Thread Brett Parker
On 03 Apr 15:42, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> * Raphael Geissert  [2009-04-02 19:45]:
> > [Security team BCC'ed]
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
> > Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people 
> > to 
> > help them.
> > 
> > I don't think yet another clone of firefox is going to do any good in any 
> > sense (including the security POV).
> 
> As providing security support for the ice* suite is already 
> PITA and I see no reason why we should include this given 
> that we have ice* I strongly oppose to include this to 
> Debian.

I thought they all now dynamically linked against xulrunner so that security
support was much simpler than before, so it's really just a frontend more than
a clone of firefox, no?

Cheers,
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Bug#522196: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:42:22PM +0200, Nico Golde  wrote:
> Hi,
> * Raphael Geissert  [2009-04-02 19:45]:
> > [Security team BCC'ed]
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
> > Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people 
> > to 
> > help them.
> > 
> > I don't think yet another clone of firefox is going to do any good in any 
> > sense (including the security POV).
> 
> As providing security support for the ice* suite is already 
> PITA and I see no reason why we should include this given 
> that we have ice* I strongly oppose to include this to 
> Debian.

Actually, after talking to Giuseppe Scrivano (submitter of the RFP, and
icecat "upstream" maintainer), it appears icecat can be summarized
(implementation-wide) as a few preferences changes and an extension over
firefox/iceweasel, plus, obviously, branding.

If someone is interested in icecat in Debian, one can surely come up with
a nice small package on top of iceweasel (modulo branding, but it would be
nice to fix that in firefox upstream so that branding for iceweasel itself
would be easier, see the deb/iceweasel-rename branch of the iceweasel git
repo).

See #522331, too, for some ideas that could(should) go into iceweasel.

Mike



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Bug#522196: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

2009-04-03 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Raphael Geissert  [2009-04-02 19:45]:
> [Security team BCC'ed]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
> Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people to 
> help them.
> 
> I don't think yet another clone of firefox is going to do any good in any 
> sense (including the security POV).

As providing security support for the ice* suite is already 
PITA and I see no reason why we should include this given 
that we have ice* I strongly oppose to include this to 
Debian.

Cheers
Nico
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