Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-08-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:21:08PM -0400, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
 ...
 of course. keep in mind that the jessie freeze is only a few months
 ahead (3, i think?) so if you want OpenCPN to be in debian in the next
 few years, we should get this show on the road!

The packaging attempt is a group effort and available in

   http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-grass/packages/opencpn/trunk/

So you are free to commit there (or even move this to Git which is as
far as I know a migration path Debian GIS has agreed upon).  The offer
for sponsering the package from my side stays valid for any team member.
Some hintes what I consider worth changing to the packaging are in the
log of the bug report.

Kind regards

   Andreas.

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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-08-14 Thread Hamish
Andreas wrote:
 So you are free to commit there (or even move this to Git

As long as I am the acting lead/co-author and maintainer of the
packaging effort I would dearly prefer to keep it in svn, and moreover
have people coordinate with Anton and myself before applying their own
patches, thankyouverymuch. The most important part of working together in a 
team is communication and mutual respect, not the last person to commit wins. 
/pet peeve


The OSGeo Live DVD ships in the very near future, if anyone wants to
help free my time to work on other things, helping to test that would
be greatly appreciated.  http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/dev/


patches welcome,
Hamish


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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-08-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 06:44:55PM +1200, Hamish wrote:
 Andreas wrote:
  So you are free to commit there (or even move this to Git
 
 As long as I am the acting lead/co-author and maintainer of the

I understood your no time flag as rather non-acting.

 packaging effort I would dearly prefer to keep it in svn,

Fine for me, sorry if I suggested something you did not liked.

 and moreover
 have people coordinate with Anton and myself before applying their own
 patches, thankyouverymuch.

What about our (in terms of a team) patches?  I wonder why you come up
with the idea of applying own patches.  I have addressed some
issues[1] in the packaging which are not addressed since 1 year as far
as I can see and without testing the package should generate several
lintian warnings.  This is plain Debian packaging stuff and IMHO it
would be rather sensible if people who are admitting to have no time
would give people free hands to work on such open issues.  If something
might happen against your intention (you have proven an impressively
quick response time with your current answer) it is quite simple to
revert.

 The most important part of working together in a team is communication and 
 mutual respect, not the last person to commit wins. /pet peeve

I understand working in a team that anybody can bring things forward.  I
consider it bad leading if you stop people from working in advance
instead of inspecting their commits and tweak (rewert?) if needed.  Your
lose / win terminology implies a conflict / fight which I fail to see
and my experience has shown that it brings things forward if you
encourage people to do something.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538067#159

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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-08-13 Thread Antoine Beaupré
On 2014-06-24 06:22:53, Hamish wrote:
 Antoine Beaupré wrote:

  I am writing to you because you have participated in the review of the
  new OpenCPN debian package as part of bug #538067.
 
  I would be ready to sponsor the package if people are okay with its
  current state. It would be a shame to have the package stalled in that
  bug report forever like this. :)

  Note that upstream is now at version 3.2.2 as well, so there may be some
  work required to get it up to the latest release. Yet i believe that
  uploading 2.5 would be better than nothing.
 
  What's blocking this? do you need an uploader?

 Francesco:
 I think Hamish_B who worked in the past on this is currently busy, as
 happens frequently with Real Life. I'm not sure if anyone is able
 to work on that starting from current status.

 Hi,

 indeed I am super busy with other responsibilites right now, but I haven't
 given up on this package! There is very little blocking it now, I don't
 even remeber what if anything, need to check the last post to the ITP and
 the ftp-master's previous rejection comment. :) AFAIR it wasn't anything
 major.

Alright, I fully understand that. Sharing those comments here would be
quite useful if someone else wants to pursue your work in case you
become too busy in the future. :)

 I was hesitating to update the packaging in debiangis svn for two reasons,
 one was that the 2.5.0 package was 99% ready to go, and a 3.2.2 would
 require resetting the QA-clock to zero. So my plan there was to get 2.5.0
 into sid immediately then work on 3.2.2 after. The second reason was that
 opencpn 3 replaced the graphics canvas with OpenGL, and for Debian/Ubuntu
 combined with a Intel GPU it caused a rendering bug for many people. (one
 of the main use cases for opencpn is on laptops where intel GPUs are very
 common). It's been a while since I checked on the status of the bug, but
 I'm thinking that it is still present in 3.2.2? (don't quote me on that :)

This seems perfectly reasonable - 3.2.2 can be uploaded to experimental
once 2.5 passes NEW.

 Also since for me at least 2.5.0 is basically feature-complete and a very
 rock-solid release, I wasn't in a rush for the new nice extra features
 like improved AIS and radar overlay. Nice, but not critical to the primary
 purpose of the program.

Indeed.

 Probably todo is to check if the build is still ok with the latest sid,
 since perhaps some package names could need updating in the control file.
 But otherwise I am quite confident in the state of the current packaging
 and very supportive of one final review before upload. A huge amount of
 work went into it, so it would be a real shame to throw it out and start
 again, even if a lot of our review is now merged upstream!

of course. keep in mind that the jessie freeze is only a few months
ahead (3, i think?) so if you want OpenCPN to be in debian in the next
few years, we should get this show on the road!

thanks for working on this.

a.
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C'est que l'adage pretend que pour croire,
L'important ne serait que de voir
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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-06-24 Thread Hamish
Antoine Beaupré wrote:

  I am writing to you because you have participated in the review of the
  new OpenCPN debian package as part of bug #538067.
 
  I would be ready to sponsor the package if people are okay with its
  current state. It would be a shame to have the package stalled in that
  bug report forever like this. :)

  Note that upstream is now at version 3.2.2 as well, so there may be some
  work required to get it up to the latest release. Yet i believe that
  uploading 2.5 would be better than nothing.
 
  What's blocking this? do you need an uploader?

Francesco:
 I think Hamish_B who worked in the past on this is currently busy, as
 happens frequently with Real Life. I'm not sure if anyone is able
 to work on that starting from current status.

Hi,

indeed I am super busy with other responsibilites right now, but I haven't
given up on this package! There is very little blocking it now, I don't
even remeber what if anything, need to check the last post to the ITP and
the ftp-master's previous rejection comment. :) AFAIR it wasn't anything
major.

I was hesitating to update the packaging in debiangis svn for two reasons,
one was that the 2.5.0 package was 99% ready to go, and a 3.2.2 would
require resetting the QA-clock to zero. So my plan there was to get 2.5.0
into sid immediately then work on 3.2.2 after. The second reason was that
opencpn 3 replaced the graphics canvas with OpenGL, and for Debian/Ubuntu
combined with a Intel GPU it caused a rendering bug for many people. (one
of the main use cases for opencpn is on laptops where intel GPUs are very
common). It's been a while since I checked on the status of the bug, but
I'm thinking that it is still present in 3.2.2? (don't quote me on that :)

Also since for me at least 2.5.0 is basically feature-complete and a very
rock-solid release, I wasn't in a rush for the new nice extra features
like improved AIS and radar overlay. Nice, but not critical to the primary
purpose of the program.

Probably todo is to check if the build is still ok with the latest sid,
since perhaps some package names could need updating in the control file.
But otherwise I am quite confident in the state of the current packaging
and very supportive of one final review before upload. A huge amount of
work went into it, so it would be a real shame to throw it out and start
again, even if a lot of our review is now merged upstream!


thanks for your interest,
Hamish

ps- MB-System is also very close to being ready for final review, the
final 3rd party murky license trouble is now happily resolved with LGPL
since a couple weeks ago. (packaging code for this also in alioth debiangis
svn)

pps- updated gpsdrive too! although I've been maintaining that in the
upstream debian/ dir and need to merge that with alioth, and make one
final mapnik2 api change commit before I tag a new release. RC version
can be tested with ubu 14.04 at dev side of http://live.osgeo.org.



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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-06-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:05:36PM -0400, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am writing to you because you have participated in the review of the
 new OpenCPN debian package as part of bug #538067.
 
 I would be ready to sponsor the package if people are okay with its
 current state. It would be a shame to have the package stalled in that
 bug report forever like this. :)
 
 Note that upstream is now at version 3.2.2 as well, so there may be some
 work required to get it up to the latest release. Yet i believe that
 uploading 2.5 would be better than nothing.
 
 What's blocking this? do you need an uploader?
 
 A.
 

I think Hamish_B who worked in the past on this is currently busy, as
happens frequently with Real Life. I'm not sure if anyone is able
to work on that starting from current status.

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Bug#538067: status of the OpenCPN package?

2014-06-01 Thread Antoine Beaupré
Hi,

I am writing to you because you have participated in the review of the
new OpenCPN debian package as part of bug #538067.

I would be ready to sponsor the package if people are okay with its
current state. It would be a shame to have the package stalled in that
bug report forever like this. :)

Note that upstream is now at version 3.2.2 as well, so there may be some
work required to get it up to the latest release. Yet i believe that
uploading 2.5 would be better than nothing.

What's blocking this? do you need an uploader?

A.

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