Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver / copyright issue

2010-05-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Frank Lin PIAT 

| The records are retrieved from [1], but the website mention:
|   « The databases on this site are a service to the Go Community:The
| databases have been compiled by Jan van Rongen and are his
| copyright. They can be distributed freely, as long as this 
| copyright statement is distributed with them. The databases 
| shall not be made part of any [non] commercially available 
| database collection of games of go without the written 
| permission of Jan van Rongen. »
| 
| 1. Do you think Jan van Rongen actually owns some copyright on 
|those files (I am not sure if he played any of those games)

That's probably not relevant.  Even if they're not copyrightable by
themselves, there are database rights to be taken into consideration.

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Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver

2010-05-03 Thread Al Nikolov
On Monday 03 May 2010 00:28:55 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
Description : Goban screensaver

 The short description should not include the package name, maybe
 something like:
   screen saver replaying games of Go

I haven't mentioned the name of the program, just the object on the screen. 
But i agree to use your proposed short description.

  Replays historical games of go (aka wei-chi and baduk) on the screen.

 The long description could/should also mention:
 - that it's a screen-saver.

If this is mentioned in the short description?

 - that it is Designed to work with xscreensaver and Gnome.

I don't think it should be linked with Gnome somehow. Xscreensaver is almost 
standard part of every usual desktop installation, at least for Gnome/KDE, 
and it is in Required. 
 
 - which historical games of go are replayed? (the game played
   using cgoban, right?)

Well, no. Actually the original source tarball is consisting of some set of 
historic games which can be easily extended/replaced by user.



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Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver

2010-05-03 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 17:01 +0400, Al Nikolov wrote:
 On Monday 03 May 2010 00:28:55 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
 Description : Goban screensaver
 
  The short description should not include the package name, maybe
  something like:
screen saver replaying games of Go

   Replays historical games of go (aka wei-chi and baduk) on the screen.
 
  The long description could/should also mention:
  - that it's a screen-saver.
 
 If this is mentioned in the short description?

The short description is like the subject of an email.
see developper-reference[1].

  - that it is Designed to work with xscreensaver and Gnome.
 
 I don't think it should be linked with Gnome somehow.

I suppose it should only mention Gnome if it actually uses Gnome libs,
or if integrates with gnome properly. (My suggestion was based on my
understanding of upstream's  website).

 Xscreensaver is almost standard part of every usual desktop
 installation, at least for Gnome/KDE, and it is in Required. 

xscreensaver is not part of Lenny/Gnome desktop. I would file a bug if
Squeeze/Gnome were recommending xscreensaver.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to mention xscreensaver in the description,
the package will depend on it, isn't it?

  - which historical games of go are replayed? (the game played
using cgoban, right?)
 
 Well, no. Actually the original source tarball is consisting of some set of 
 historic games which can be easily extended/replaced by user.

Even though this is possible, I suppose that very few users will do it,
so it isn't the main feature.

So, maybe something like:
 This is a screen saver that replays some games of go (aka wei-chi and
  baduk). The pre-recorded games shipped in the packages were recorded
  during various tournaments
(please review this description carefully, especially the statement in
the second sentence).

Feel free to improve/rewrite my suggestions.

Franklin

[1] 
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis




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Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver / copyright issue

2010-05-03 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 22:36 +0400, Al Nikolov wrote:
 
 * Package name: goban
 * URL : http://draves.org/goban/
 * License : GPL

From what I understood, the package contains a copy of some games that
were recorded during some tournaments.

The records are retrieved from [1], but the website mention:
  « The databases on this site are a service to the Go Community:The
databases have been compiled by Jan van Rongen and are his
copyright. They can be distributed freely, as long as this 
copyright statement is distributed with them. The databases 
shall not be made part of any [non] commercially available 
database collection of games of go without the written 
permission of Jan van Rongen. »

1. Do you think Jan van Rongen actually owns some copyright on 
   those files (I am not sure if he played any of those games)

2. If Jan van Rongen owns some copyright, I am afraid the games
   are non-free (are they).

   Description : Goban screensaver
 
 Replays historical games of go (aka wei-chi and baduk) on the screen.

Regards,

Franklin

[1] http://www.xs4all.nl/~rongen17/




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Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hello,

On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 22:36 +0400, Al Nikolov wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
 
 
 * Package name: goban
   Version : 1.1
   Upstream Author : Scott Draves s...@draves.org
 * URL : http://draves.org/goban/
 * License : GPL
   Programming Lang: C
   Description : Goban screensaver

The short description should not include the package name, maybe
something like:
  screen saver replaying games of Go

 Replays historical games of go (aka wei-chi and baduk) on the screen.

The long description could/should also mention:
- that it's a screen-saver.
- that it is Designed to work with xscreensaver and Gnome.
- which historical games of go are replayed? (the game played
  using cgoban, right?)

Franklin






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Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver

2010-04-29 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org


* Package name: goban
  Version : 1.1
  Upstream Author : Scott Draves s...@draves.org
* URL : http://draves.org/goban/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Goban screensaver

Replays historical games of go (aka wei-chi and baduk) on the screen.



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