Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- startup disk creator

2012-05-17 Thread Wookey
I forgot the patch. Attached this time.

I've also filed this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1000527
which points out breakage in the package due
to trying to deal with syslinx version changes but assumes Ubuntu
nomenclature in a version check.
diff -urN usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/control /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/control
--- usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/control	2012-04-16 08:28:18.0 +
+++ /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/control	2012-05-16 11:33:57.0 +
@@ -2,29 +2,28 @@
 Section: admin
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: usb-creator Hackers Team 
-Uploaders: Dmitrijs Ledkovs , Ignace Mouzannar 
+Uploaders: Dmitrijs Ledkovs , Wookey 
 Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.2.11~),
-   dh-translations,
-   python (>= 2.6),
+   python,
python-distutils-extra,
pkg-kde-tools,
kdesdk-scripts
-Standards-Version: 3.9.2
+Standards-Version: 3.9.3
 X-Python-Version: current
 Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~usb-creator-hackers/usb-creator/trunk
 
 Package: usb-creator-common
 Architecture: amd64 i386
 Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, python-dbus,
- syslinux, syslinux-legacy,
+ syslinux,
  udisks (>= 1.0~), udisks (<< 1.1), genisoimage, mtools, parted, python-debian
 Description: create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (common files)
  Startup Disk Creator converts a USB key or SD card into a volume from which you
- can start up and run Ubuntu. You can also store files and settings in any space
- left over.
+ can start up and run or install Debian/Ubuntu. You can also store files and 
+ settings in any space left over.
  .
- The program also works for Debian, or any other Debian-based OS for which you
- have a CD or .iso image.
+ The program works for Debian and Ubuntu, or any other Debian-based OS for which 
+ you have a CD or .iso image.
  .
  This package contains backend engine and common data files used by frontends.
 
@@ -36,14 +35,13 @@
  gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
  gir1.2-pango-1.0,
  gir1.2-glib-2.0,
- gir1.2-unity-5.0,
  python-dbus
 Description: create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (for GNOME)
  Startup Disk Creator converts a USB key or SD card into a volume from which you
- can start up and run Ubuntu. You can also store files and settings in any space
- left over.
+ can start up and run or install Debian/Ubuntu. You can also store files and 
+ settings in any space left over.
  .
- The program also works for Debian, or any other Debian-based OS for which you
+ The program works for Debian or Ubuntu, or any other Debian-based OS for which you
  have a CD or .iso image.
  .
  This package contains the GTK+ client frontend.
@@ -54,10 +52,10 @@
  usb-creator-common (= ${binary:Version}), python-kde4, python-qt4-dbus
 Description: create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (for KDE)
  Startup Disk Creator converts a USB key or SD card into a volume from which you
- can start up and run Ubuntu. You can also store files and settings in any space
- left over.
+ can start up and run or install Debian/Ubuntu. You can also store files and 
+ settings in any space left over.
  .
- The program also works for Debian, or any other Debian-based OS for which you
+ The program works for Debian or Ubuntu, or any other Debian-based OS for which you
  have a CD or .iso image.
  .
  This package contains the KDE client frontend.
diff -urN usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/rules /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/rules
--- usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/rules	2012-03-19 17:40:32.0 +
+++ /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/debian/rules	2012-05-16 11:21:29.0 +
@@ -4,8 +4,14 @@
 xpm_gtk := $(CURDIR)/debian/usb-creator-gtk/usr/share/pixmaps/
 xpm_kde := $(CURDIR)/debian/usb-creator-kde/usr/share/pixmaps/
 
+ifeq ($(vendor),Ubuntu)
+ DHaddons := python2,translations
+else
+ DHaddons := python2
+endif
+
 %:
-	dh -Spython_distutils --with python2,translations $@
+	dh -Spython_distutils --with $(DHaddons) $@
 
 override_dh_install:
 	find . -path "$(vendor)/*.svg" -exec cp {} $(dest) \;
diff -urN usb-creator-0.2.38/gui/usbcreator-gtk.ui /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/gui/usbcreator-gtk.ui
--- usb-creator-0.2.38/gui/usbcreator-gtk.ui	2012-03-19 17:40:32.0 +
+++ /home/wookey/packages/usb-creator/debian/usb-creator-0.2.38/gui/usbcreator-gtk.ui	2012-05-16 10:58:38.0 +
@@ -203,7 +203,7 @@
   
 True
 True
-Installation is complete.  You may now run Ubuntu on other computers by booting them with this drive inserted.
+Installation is complete.  You may now run Debian/Ubuntu on other computers by booting them with this drive inserted.
 True
  

Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- startup disk creator

2012-05-16 Thread Wookey
I just came across this package due to debian-CD discussion on d-devel. 

I fixed up the current ubuntu version so it builds and installs on
Debian and is less distro-specific.

Then I found this ITP and argument about the name.

Where are we at? Is anyone going to get this into wheezy (I think it
would be very useful and it would be trivial but for the name-change).

It seems we are stalled on the name-change. Can that just be done now
(as quantal has been released, so now is a good time) and get on with
it, or is there an actual problem?

Anyway - here is my patch to hopefully save someone some time. I would
prefer it if the people who wrote this and did work already would
maintian this in Debian - I see Dmitrijs is a DD and has done most of
the Debianisation so far. But I don't mind sponsoring if that helps.
(I.e I don't particularly desire to be an uploader for this - feel
free to remove me :-)

Stuff I changed:
removed dh-translations (doesn't exist in Debian) - used dpkg-vendor
in rules file to call/not-call as required.

Changed description to be distro-neutral

Removed gir-unity install-dep (doesn;t exist on debian)
Changed syslinux install-dep (no syslinux-legacy on debian - is this
an issue technically - is syslinux 2.3x needed for some reason?

Hacked .ui files to say Debian or ubuntu, and suggest install as well
a live disk. This is hacky - could be done much better to put in
apropriate name for distro, or just talk about 'the image you just
wrote'. Awkward to be both newbie-friendly and accurate, and cover
installers as well as live images in one sentence. Suggestions for how
to handle this are welcome.

Checked and updated standards-version. I will test it with some real
installer images tonight.

It does seem that we need to have some control file differences
between Debian and Ubuntu so there will have to be a small Ubuntu
diff, unless someone can think of a clever way to deal with this.

Wookey



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Bug#582884:

2011-08-16 Thread Adnan Hodzic
Hey Sam,

> If there hasn't been any progress on this I would be extremely
> interested in taking over this.

I have many things on my hands right now and therefor feel free to
take over this package.

Enjoy,

Adnan

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Sam Dunne  wrote:
> Hey there,
>
> If there hasn't been any progress on this I would be extremely
> interested in taking over this.
>
> Let me know :)
>
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> BSc Computer Science, UCD Dublin.
>



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Bug#582884:

2011-08-15 Thread Sam Dunne
Hey there,

If there hasn't been any progress on this I would be extremely
interested in taking over this.

Let me know :)

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Bug#605001: Bug#582884:

2011-04-26 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 22:32, Adnan Hodzic  wrote:
> Hey,
>
> As I don't see any progress on this ITP/RFS I would like to take over
> and try to get it into Debian.

Hi Adnan,

As the previous ITPer, I was intending to switch this ITP to RFP. I
have done some work on it, but I'm not sure if it will be of any use.
Anyways, you can PM me if you need any help.

You can of course take over the ITP.

Happy hacking!
 Ignace M



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Bug#582884: (no subject)

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hey guys, not that wheezy is open, is there any chance of getting this
going again? If I can do anything to help, please give me a poke!



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-09-06 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 4 September 2010 15:21, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
>  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
>>
 Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
> file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
 Yes, that sounds good to me.
>>> Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
>>> change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?
>>
>> Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
>> if both source and binary package would have the same name.
>
> Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing
> to change the name of the package upstream?  Or should
> "startup-disk-creator" be a Debian specific change?
>
> Cheers,
>  Ignace M

I did have a branch somewhere with a rename & fake transitional
packages for Ubuntu. I'll try to get it up for review soon. But
probably it will be merged after 10.10 is released (on the other hand
Lenny is frozen. so it is harder to get startup-disk-creator into
Lenny with every passing day)

Fortunately I have finished my studies and can come back to hacking.


With regards,

Dmitrijs.



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-09-04 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
>
>>> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
>>> Yes, that sounds good to me.
>> Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
>> change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?
>
> Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
> if both source and binary package would have the same name.

Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing
to change the name of the package upstream?  Or should
"startup-disk-creator" be a Debian specific change?

Cheers,
 Ignace M



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel Baumann
The Debian Live team appreciates that you don't use '^live' prefix for
packages that are not maintained by the Debian Live team. This avoids
much confusion and makes our life of supporting users easier.

Thanks,
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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

>> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
>>> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
>>> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
>>> file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
>> Yes, that sounds good to me.
> Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
> change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
if both source and binary package would have the same name.


Best regards,
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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-03 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 wrote:
> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
>> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
>> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
>> file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
>
> Yes, that sounds good to me.

Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

Thanks



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
> file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?

Yes, that sounds good to me.


Best regards,
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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-27 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 wrote:
> Hi!

Hello Alexander,

Thank you for taking the time to look at this thread.

> To answer your questions:
>
> Yes, the name is too generic.
> No, "it is already in Ubuntu" is no argument.
> No, "it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in
> Debian with a different way) is also not an argument.
> Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names
> (several gnustep package come to my mind).

Fair enough.

Here are some alternative names:
 - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier)
 - iso-usb-creator
 - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1])
 - startup-usb-creator
 - ubuntu-usb-creator

Any other name suggestions are more than welcome. :)

Dmitrijs and the Usb-creator Hackers team: would you be willing to
change the name of the package upstream?

Cheers,
 Ignace M

[1] 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~usb-creator-hackers/usb-creator/trunk/annotate/head:/desktop/usb-creator-gtk.desktop.in



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-27 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
>  wrote:
>> Yes, the name is too generic.
>> No, "it is already in Ubuntu" is no argument.
>> No, "it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in
>> Debian with a different way) is also not an argument.
>> Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names
>> (several gnustep package come to my mind).

> Here are some alternative names:
>  - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier)
>  - iso-usb-creator
>  - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1])
>  - startup-usb-creator
>  - ubuntu-usb-creator

I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?

I think if we can get rid of usb in the name, that would be good as it
can write to SD cards.  I want to avoid using live in the name since,
as I previously mentioned, it can write debian-installer based images,
which are definitely not live CDs.  I don't want to put Ubuntu in the
name.  It writes more than just Ubuntu images (currently any
Debian-based image, but in the future any Linux distribution that uses
GRUB2).



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-27 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

* Ignace Mouzannar  [100527 00:53]:

> > Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic
> Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud
> what they could or could not like.
[.]
> > So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want to check with them
> > how they feel about it.
> Will do. Thanks for the heads-up.

To answer your questions:

Yes, the name is too generic.
No, "it is already in Ubuntu" is no argument.
No, "it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in
Debian with a different way) is also not an argument.
Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names
(several gnustep package come to my mind).


Best Regards,
  Alexander



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-27 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/27/2010 12:53 AM, Ignace Mouzannar wrote:
>>
>> Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic
> 
> Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud
> what they could or could not like.
> 

I'm not "shouting out-loud"! I'm giving you an advice/information to
save a "process-reject" cycle. Let's keep it easy…

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Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-26 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 26 May 2010 23:50, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea  wrote:
>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar  
>> wrote:
>>> Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been
>>> released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before
>>> trying to upload it to Debian.
>>
>> This is a native package.  0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :).
>
> I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being
> released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to
> release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to
> Ubuntu. Is that right?
>

Depends. For general uploads there are no reasons to not do that. If
Ubuntu is close to different freezes/milestones there might be
releases pushed to ubuntu e.g. 0.2.XXubuntuY but those would be
hot-fixes for ubuntu something along the lines of 0day delay queue
NMU.


>>> As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set
>>> ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields.
>>
>> Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the
>> usb-creator-hackers team.  I'd really like to avoid having a delta
>> between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible.
>
> Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important
> delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team
> co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient
> in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team)
> and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian
> package.
>
>>>  * .desktop files:
>>>   - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear
>>> in "System/Administration" as using it does not have an effect on the
>>> local system. I'd rather put it in "Application/System tools".
>>>     What do you think about this?
>>
>> It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system.  There
>> are other applications in System->Administration that are similar in
>> nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest).
>>
>> Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications
>> in Debian?  You don't specify that something goes into the
>> Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of
>> categories it falls under.  So if you're seeing different behavior for
>> similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong.
>
> What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of "USB-writer
> application" more than a local system configuration application. For
> instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas

Yes and no with respect to root privileges, depends on the PolicyKit
setup on a particular machine.

> GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the
> "System -> Administration" menu. Also, in Debian, "Disk Utility
> (palimpsest)" appears in "Application/System tools":

"User and groups" doesn't ask for the password when you launch it from
"System -> Administration" and later depending on the requested task
PolicyKit kicks in and might ask a password.


> -8<-8<-
> ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop
> [Desktop Entry]
> Name=Disk Utility
> (...)
> Categories=GNOME;GTK;System;
> -8<-8<-
>
> This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in
> "Application/System tools".
>

I'm ok with implementing this as a Debian vendor modification ;-)

> Cheers,
>  Ignace M
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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-26 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 23:55, Mehdi Dogguy  wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 06:19 PM, Justin B Rye wrote:
>>
>> Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the "live"
>> eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an
>> operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to
>> package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port.
>>
>
> Exactly :)
>
> Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic

Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud
what they could or could not like.

> (and meaningless).

This does not help there; not every package has a meaningful name.

> So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want to check with them
> how they feel about it.

Will do. Thanks for the heads-up.

Cheers,
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Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-26 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea  wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar  
> wrote:
>> Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been
>> released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before
>> trying to upload it to Debian.
>
> This is a native package.  0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :).

I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being
released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to
release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to
Ubuntu. Is that right?

>> As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set
>> ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields.
>
> Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the
> usb-creator-hackers team.  I'd really like to avoid having a delta
> between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible.

Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important
delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team
co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient
in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team)
and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian
package.

>>  * .desktop files:
>>   - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear
>> in "System/Administration" as using it does not have an effect on the
>> local system. I'd rather put it in "Application/System tools".
>>     What do you think about this?
>
> It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system.  There
> are other applications in System->Administration that are similar in
> nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest).
>
> Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications
> in Debian?  You don't specify that something goes into the
> Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of
> categories it falls under.  So if you're seeing different behavior for
> similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong.

What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of "USB-writer
application" more than a local system configuration application. For
instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas
GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the
"System -> Administration" menu. Also, in Debian, "Disk Utility
(palimpsest)" appears in "Application/System tools":
-8<-8<-
~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Disk Utility
(...)
Categories=GNOME;GTK;System;
-8<-8<-

This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in
"Application/System tools".

Cheers,
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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-26 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/24/2010 06:19 PM, Justin B Rye wrote:
> 
> Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the "live"
> eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an
> operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to
> package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port.
> 

Exactly :)

Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic
(and meaningless). So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want
to check with them how they feel about it.

Regards,

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Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-26 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
> Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been
> released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before
> trying to upload it to Debian.

This is a native package.  0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :).

>> The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these
>> Ubuntu & Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this
>> package.

Actually, this is a bug.  It should be the usb-creator-hackers team now.  Fixed.

> As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set
> ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields.

Is this necessary?  I'm more than happy to add people to the
usb-creator-hackers team.  I'd really like to avoid having a delta
between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible.

>  * .desktop files:
>   - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear
> in "System/Administration" as using it does not have an effect on the
> local system. I'd rather put it in "Application/System tools".
>     What do you think about this?

It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system.  There
are other applications in System->Administration that are similar in
nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest).

Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications
in Debian?  You don't specify that something goes into the
Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of
categories it falls under.  So if you're seeing different behavior for
similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong.

Thanks!



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Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-25 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
Hello Dmitrijs,

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:24, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
 wrote:
> Here is the current dsc ready for upload to Debian (with last minute
> fixes to debrand package description)
>
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc
>
> also pushed as a branch lp:~dmitrij.ledkov/usb-creator/debian
> (temporary branch intended to be merged with lp:usb-creator)

Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been
released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before
trying to upload it to Debian.

Here are the options I see:
 1- Wait for the 0.2.23 version to be released upstream, and take
action from this version and on.
 2- Work on the 0.2.22 version (as I did because I wasn't aware 0.2.23
was about to be released) then upload the newer version later.

I would prefer option 1, tell me what you think.

> The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these
> Ubuntu & Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this
> package.

As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set
ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields.

> I'm GSoC'2010 student working on usb-creator this summer and I have a
> have upload rights after review from mentor / primary upstream author
> Evan.

Ooh, congrats! This is excellent! :)

> Please review packaging above and if there are any issues I believe we
> will be able to work them out and upload to debian soon.

Here are my thoughts:
---
 * debian/changelog:
   -  it is missing the Initial Debian release closing the 2 ITPs
(Debian specific).
---
 * debian/control:
   - Maintainer field should be updated as the Ubuntu Installer Team
won't be the Debian maintainer of the usb-creator package (Debian
specific).
   - It seems kdesdk-scripts is missing from the build dependencies as
extractrc(1) (which it provides) is used by Messages.sh. Is this an
upstream bug?
---
 * debian/usb-creator-gtk.menu and debian/usb-creator-kde.menu files
are missing. Is this an upstream bug?
---
 * .desktop files:
   - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear
in "System/Administration" as using it does not have an effect on the
local system. I'd rather put it in "Application/System tools".
 What do you think about this?
---
 * debian/rules:
   - I am not sure that this is the best way to go (using dpkg-vendor
there), but I can't think of better way to do it. :)
   - I have updated the find executions to use absolute path.
   - I also changed the override from dh_install to dh_auto_install.

I have uploaded a new version [1]. Tell me what you think about it.

I am, of course, open to all your suggestions. :)

Cheers,
 Ignace M

[1] http://ghantoos.org/misc/debian/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:02, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
 wrote:
> On 24 May 2010 12:53, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dmitrijs,
>>
>> I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1].
>>
>
> reportbug failed to bring it up =( annoyed. Sorry about this.
>
>> I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon.
>>
>
> Is your work available anywhere to see? What changes have you made?

Not yet. It is still only available on my machine. But I was thinking
of creating a branch including my changes.

>> Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs?
>>
>
> I will merge the two bugs. Are you OK to co-maintain?

Of course. Debian would benefit from this. :)

> I've recently done some improvements to usb-creator: exported
> translations into the bzr-branch, debranded artwork, created debian
> artwork.

Excellent! :)

> As a whole it is ready to be released straight from lp:usb-creator.
> Currently it is maintained as native package and we would like to keep
> it like that for now. So the idea is to release as native debian
> package from lp:usb-creator and sync into ubuntu.

I was thinking of sending an email to see if releasing usb-creator as
a non-native package could be an option. Thank you for clarifying
this.

Cheers,
 Ignace M



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Justin B Rye
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> Mehdi Dogguy  wrote:
> * Package name    : usb-creator
 "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could
 you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>>>
>>> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
>>
>> Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name.
> 
> it was before me. But there is liveusb-creator package already
> developed and packaged in Fedora [1]
> 
> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

Speaking as a random bystander who just happened to notice this
Debian ITP and went "WTF?", I would like to point out that
"usb-creator" and "liveusb-creator" are two different strings, and 
that even "liveusb-creator" may be less than self-explanatory for
people who don't happen to have been reading the boot-CD development
mailinglists for the past few years. 

For us outsiders, "LiveUSB" is an unfamiliar piece of jargon.  I
gather it's formed by analogy with "liveCD", but the difference is
that "live CDs" are literally a kind of CD (like "music CDs" and
"data CDs"), while "live USBs" aren't any kind of USB - they're a
kind of flash drive.

Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the "live"
eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an
operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to
package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port.

So if you're going to insist on giving these packages newbie-hostile
names, please at least say you'll give them intelligible short
descriptions, not just ones that expand the name slightly.

I would suggest instead of having synopses like this:

 Package: usb-creator-common
 ...
 Description: Live USB creator (common files)

they should be more along the lines of:

 Package: usb-creator-common
 ...
 Description: tool for putting OS images on flash drives - common files

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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy  wrote:
 * Package name    : usb-creator
>>>
>>> "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could
>>> you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
>
> Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name.

I do not think it is misleading at all.  Calling it "live-usb-creator"
would just add confusion as it can be used to write debian-installer
ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs.

>> I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short
>> description or with long description.
>
> Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that
> name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too
> general. "live-usb-creator" tells you what the program does, without
> reading its short description.

I don't think you can encapsulate what this program does in the
package name alone.

Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite
"evolution" telling you nothing about what it does.  So why should we
apply this new rule to just usb-creator?



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/24/2010 03:19 PM, Evan Dandrea wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy  
> wrote:
> * Package name: usb-creator
 
 "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). 
 Could you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>>> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
>> 
>> Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a 
>> name.
> 
> I do not think it is misleading at all.  Calling it 
> "live-usb-creator" would just add confusion as it can be used to 
> write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs.
> 

Is any debian-installer ISO used to be called "live" something? I don't
think so.

> 
> Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite 
> "evolution" telling you nothing about what it does.  So why should we
> apply this new rule to just usb-creator?

I'm not stating a new rule. Don't make assumptions from nothing!
And that's not "equally" since Evolution doesn't contain mail nor client
in its name. "usb-creator" is more explicit about promised features
than "evolution".

If you want to keep that name, then fine! But, please, don't be
hypocritical!

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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:55, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
 wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,
>        usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net,
>        ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com
>
> Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs 
>
> * Package name    : usb-creator
>  Version         : 0.2.23
>  Upstream Author : Evan Dandrea 
> * URL             : http://launchpad.net/usb-creator
> * License         : GPL-2, GPL-3
>  Programming Lang: Python
>  Description     : Live USB creator
>
> Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
> Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow storing user
> files in persistence mode.

Hi Dmitrijs,

I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1].

I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon.

Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs?

Thanks.

Cheers,
 Ignace M

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576359



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,
       usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net,
       ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com

Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs 

* Package name    : usb-creator
 Version         : 0.2.23
 Upstream Author : Evan Dandrea 
* URL             : http://launchpad.net/usb-creator
* License         : GPL-2, GPL-3
 Programming Lang: Python
 Description     : Live USB creator

Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow storing user
files in persistence mode.



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 24 May 2010 12:53, Ignace Mouzannar  wrote:
>
> Hi Dmitrijs,
>
> I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1].
>

reportbug failed to bring it up =( annoyed. Sorry about this.

> I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon.
>

Is your work available anywhere to see? What changes have you made?

> Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs?
>

I will merge the two bugs. Are you OK to co-maintain?

I've recently done some improvements to usb-creator: exported
translations into the bzr-branch, debranded artwork, created debian
artwork.

As a whole it is ready to be released straight from lp:usb-creator.
Currently it is maintained as native package and we would like to keep
it like that for now. So the idea is to release as native debian
package from lp:usb-creator and sync into ubuntu.

> Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
>  Ignace M
>
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576359
>



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 24 May 2010 12:15, Mehdi Dogguy  wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 12:55 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,
>>        usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net,
>>        ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs 
>>
>> * Package name    : usb-creator
>
> "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you
> rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>
> Regards,
>

This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
Currently it builds usb-creator-common, usb-creator-gtk &
usb-creator-kde packages with backend, GTK and Qt front ends
respectively.
I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short
description or with long description. Plus it would be inconvenience
to rename the package again, cause we have just transitioned from
usb-creator -> usb-creator-$(frontend) in Ubuntu.

I've created Debian branded icons, I will work on making description
non-vendor specific. This is the current debian/control.

8<--
$ cat debian/control
Source: usb-creator
Section: admin
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Ubuntu Installer Team 
Uploaders: Dmitrijs Ledkovs 
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50~),
   python,
   python-distutils-extra,
   pkg-kde-tools
Standards-Version: 3.8.4
Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~usb-creator-hackers/usb-creator/trunk

Package: usb-creator-common
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, python-dbus, syslinux,
 udisks (>= 1.0~), udisks (<< 1.1), genisoimage, mtools, parted
Description: Live USB creator (common files)
 Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
 Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow
 storing user files in persistence mode.
 .
 This package contains backend engine and common data files used
 by frontends.

Package: usb-creator-gtk
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends},
 usb-creator-common (= ${source:Version}), python-gtk2 (>= 2.12),
 python-dbus, python-gnome2
Description: Live USB creator for GNOME
 Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
 Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Remix. This utility can partition USB stick to allow
 storing user files in persistence mode.
 .
 This package contains the GTK+ client frontend.

Package: usb-creator-kde
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends},
 usb-creator-common (= ${source:Version}), python-kde4, python-qt4-dbus
Description: Live USB creator for KDE
 Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
 Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix. This utility can partition USB stick to
 allow storing user files in persistence mode.
 .
 This package contains the KDE client frontend.
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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 24 May 2010 12:43, Mehdi Dogguy  wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 01:27 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:

 * Package name    : usb-creator
>>>
>>> "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could
>>> you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>>>
>>
>> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
>
> Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name.
>

it was before me. But there is liveusb-creator package already
developed and packaged in Fedora [1]

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

>> I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short
>> description or with long description.
>
> Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that
> name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too
> general. "live-usb-creator" tells you what the program does, without
> reading its short description.
>
>> Plus it would be inconvenience to rename the package again, cause we
>> have just transitioned from usb-creator -> usb-creator-$(frontend)
>> in Ubuntu.
>>
>
> We are talking about a NEW package in *Debian*, right? Besides, it
> shouldn't be that hard to rename a package.
>

Yes, new package in Debian. But ubuntu & debian share package
namespace so this upload into debian will affect ubuntu.

I think changing package name to live-usb-creator will create
confusion with liveusb-creator by Fedora and that might be package for
debian as well.


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>
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Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Here is the current dsc ready for upload to Debian (with last minute
fixes to debrand package description)

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc

also pushed as a branch lp:~dmitrij.ledkov/usb-creator/debian
(temporary branch intended to be merged with lp:usb-creator)

The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these
Ubuntu & Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this
package.

I'm GSoC'2010 student working on usb-creator this summer and I have a
have upload rights after review from mentor / primary upstream author
Evan.

Please review packaging above and if there are any issues I believe we
will be able to work them out and upload to debian soon.



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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/24/2010 12:55 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,
>usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net,
>ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs 
> 
> * Package name: usb-creator

"usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you
rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?

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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/24/2010 01:27 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>>> 
>>> * Package name: usb-creator
>> 
>> "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could 
>> you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"?
>> 
> 
> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.

Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name.

> I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short 
> description or with long description.

Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that
name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too
general. "live-usb-creator" tells you what the program does, without
reading its short description.

> Plus it would be inconvenience to rename the package again, cause we
> have just transitioned from usb-creator -> usb-creator-$(frontend) 
> in Ubuntu.
> 

We are talking about a NEW package in *Debian*, right? Besides, it
shouldn't be that hard to rename a package.

Regards,

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