Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-09-06 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 4 September 2010 15:21, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 toli...@debian.org wrote:
 Hi!

 Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

 Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
 Yes, that sounds good to me.
 Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
 change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

 Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
 if both source and binary package would have the same name.

 Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing
 to change the name of the package upstream?  Or should
 startup-disk-creator be a Debian specific change?

 Cheers,
  Ignace M

I did have a branch somewhere with a rename  fake transitional
packages for Ubuntu. I'll try to get it up for review soon. But
probably it will be merged after 10.10 is released (on the other hand
Lenny is frozen. so it is harder to get startup-disk-creator into
Lenny with every passing day)

Fortunately I have finished my studies and can come back to hacking.


With regards,

Dmitrijs.



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-09-04 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
toli...@debian.org wrote:
 Hi!

 Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

 Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
 Yes, that sounds good to me.
 Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
 change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

 Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
 if both source and binary package would have the same name.

Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing
to change the name of the package upstream?  Or should
startup-disk-creator be a Debian specific change?

Cheers,
 Ignace M



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

 Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?
 Yes, that sounds good to me.
 Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
 change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail?  Sorry.  We would prefer,
if both source and binary package would have the same name.


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-03 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
toli...@debian.org wrote:
 Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:
 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?

 Yes, that sounds good to me.

Great, will do!  One question though.  Are you requiring that we
change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages?

Thanks



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea:

 I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
 as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
 file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?

Yes, that sounds good to me.


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-27 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 toli...@debian.org wrote:
 Yes, the name is too generic.
 No, it is already in Ubuntu is no argument.
 No, it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in
 Debian with a different way) is also not an argument.
 Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names
 (several gnustep package come to my mind).

 Here are some alternative names:
  - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier)
  - iso-usb-creator
  - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1])
  - startup-usb-creator
  - ubuntu-usb-creator

I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might
as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop
file.  Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator?

I think if we can get rid of usb in the name, that would be good as it
can write to SD cards.  I want to avoid using live in the name since,
as I previously mentioned, it can write debian-installer based images,
which are definitely not live CDs.  I don't want to put Ubuntu in the
name.  It writes more than just Ubuntu images (currently any
Debian-based image, but in the future any Linux distribution that uses
GRUB2).



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 05/24/2010 03:19 PM, Evan Dandrea wrote:
 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org 
 wrote:
 * Package name: usb-creator
 
 usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). 
 Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator?
 This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
 
 Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a 
 name.
 
 I do not think it is misleading at all.  Calling it 
 live-usb-creator would just add confusion as it can be used to 
 write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs.
 

Is any debian-installer ISO used to be called live something? I don't
think so.

 
 Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite 
 evolution telling you nothing about what it does.  So why should we
 apply this new rule to just usb-creator?

I'm not stating a new rule. Don't make assumptions from nothing!
And that's not equally since Evolution doesn't contain mail nor client
in its name. usb-creator is more explicit about promised features
than evolution.

If you want to keep that name, then fine! But, please, don't be
hypocritical!

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http://dogguy.org/



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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator

2010-05-24 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
 * Package name    : usb-creator

 usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could
 you rename it into something like live-usb-creator?
 This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.

 Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name.

I do not think it is misleading at all.  Calling it live-usb-creator
would just add confusion as it can be used to write debian-installer
ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs.

 I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short
 description or with long description.

 Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that
 name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too
 general. live-usb-creator tells you what the program does, without
 reading its short description.

I don't think you can encapsulate what this program does in the
package name alone.

Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite
evolution telling you nothing about what it does.  So why should we
apply this new rule to just usb-creator?



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