Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/24/2010 03:19 PM, Evan Dandrea wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy > wrote: > * Package name: usb-creator "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"? >>> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. >> >> Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a >> name. > > I do not think it is misleading at all. Calling it > "live-usb-creator" would just add confusion as it can be used to > write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs. > Is any debian-installer ISO used to be called "live" something? I don't think so. > > Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite > "evolution" telling you nothing about what it does. So why should we > apply this new rule to just usb-creator? I'm not stating a new rule. Don't make assumptions from nothing! And that's not "equally" since Evolution doesn't contain mail nor client in its name. "usb-creator" is more explicit about promised features than "evolution". If you want to keep that name, then fine! But, please, don't be hypocritical! -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfa8428.8020...@dogguy.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: * Package name : usb-creator >>> >>> "usb-creator" is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could >>> you rename it into something like "live-usb-creator"? >> This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. > > Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. I do not think it is misleading at all. Calling it "live-usb-creator" would just add confusion as it can be used to write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs. >> I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short >> description or with long description. > > Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that > name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too > general. "live-usb-creator" tells you what the program does, without > reading its short description. I don't think you can encapsulate what this program does in the package name alone. Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite "evolution" telling you nothing about what it does. So why should we apply this new rule to just usb-creator? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikknbpavymss2iyp2qx5jx_6wy2o0bt7hnyk...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignace Mouzannar wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl > wrote: >> Yes, the name is too generic. >> No, "it is already in Ubuntu" is no argument. >> No, "it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in >> Debian with a different way) is also not an argument. >> Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names >> (several gnustep package come to my mind). > Here are some alternative names: > - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier) > - iso-usb-creator > - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1]) > - startup-usb-creator > - ubuntu-usb-creator I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? I think if we can get rid of usb in the name, that would be good as it can write to SD cards. I want to avoid using live in the name since, as I previously mentioned, it can write debian-installer based images, which are definitely not live CDs. I don't want to put Ubuntu in the name. It writes more than just Ubuntu images (currently any Debian-based image, but in the future any Linux distribution that uses GRUB2). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik7hfa41noifmf2m4kds73j-lbksx7wp4gdw...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hi! Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: > I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might > as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop > file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c067a91.5010...@debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: >> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might >> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop >> file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? > > Yes, that sounds good to me. Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil0f5nkt2yeoltndaekrbe-kcl4vlnti_snw...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hi! Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: >> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: >>> I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might >>> as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop >>> file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? >> Yes, that sounds good to me. > Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we > change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, if both source and binary package would have the same name. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c0f4c34.9010...@debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: > >>> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? >>> Yes, that sounds good to me. >> Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we >> change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? > > Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, > if both source and binary package would have the same name. Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing to change the name of the package upstream? Or should "startup-disk-creator" be a Debian specific change? Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikjgecbd3aubaksky4fbufyl_jsczxermdke...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 4 September 2010 15:21, Ignace Mouzannar wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: >> Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: > I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might > as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop > file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. >>> Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we >>> change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? >> >> Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, >> if both source and binary package would have the same name. > > Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing > to change the name of the package upstream? Or should > "startup-disk-creator" be a Debian specific change? > > Cheers, > Ignace M I did have a branch somewhere with a rename & fake transitional packages for Ubuntu. I'll try to get it up for review soon. But probably it will be merged after 10.10 is released (on the other hand Lenny is frozen. so it is harder to get startup-disk-creator into Lenny with every passing day) Fortunately I have finished my studies and can come back to hacking. With regards, Dmitrijs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinleo=t7wmhnzi=n_=8nfoy-gmk0uf8=slno...@mail.gmail.com
