Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-19 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:43:23PM +0200, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
 
 Package: wnpp
 Followup-For: Bug #662736
 Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com
 
 Package: wnpp
 Followup-For: Bug #662736
 Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com
 
 Package: wnpp
 Followup-For: Bug #662736
 Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com
 
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Hi Pedro,
 
 if I understand things right, you missed a CC to
 
 |  cont...@bugs.debian.org
 
 and a separate line
 
thanks
 
 to make your control commands become effictive.

There are no control commands in that message, and thus CC to
cont...@bugs.debian.org would be inappropriate.  Adding a thanks line would be
unnecessary, for the same reason.

Control commands have the form 
  command bugnumber parameters
all in one line for a single command.  The above lines are pseudo-headers
(unnecessarily repetitive ones) and should not be sent to control@bugs.

By the way, my custom is to never CC control@bugs, instead I tend to BCC it.
That way, any reply-to-all to such a message will not get accidentally copied
to control@.

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Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-18 Thread intrigeri
Hi Pedro,

Pedro I. Sanchez wrote (18 Jul 2012 03:01:19 GMT) :
 * Package name : maxwell
 [...]
 * Description  : entropy-gathering daemon

 [...]
 There are a number of other ways to feed entropy to random (4).

Yes, and as you for sure know, a few are in Debian already.

 The advantage of maxwell is that it is small, simple and only
 minimally hardware-dependent. The other methods also have
 advantages, and in many cases one of them will be preferable to
 this one.

I would be delighted to be pointed to a place when these many cases,
and reasons why/when other methods are preferable, are discussed in
a bit more details :)

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Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-18 Thread Martin Eberhard Schauer



Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
   

Hi Pedro,

if I understand things right, you missed a CC to

|  cont...@bugs.debian.org

and a separate line

   thanks

to make your control commands become effictive.
|

* Package name : maxwell
   Version  : 1.2-1
   Upstream Author  : Sandy Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com
* URL  : ftp://ftp.cs.sjtu.edu.cn:990/sandy/maxwell/
* License  : GPL v2
   Programming Language : C
* Description  : entropy-gathering daemon

Daemon to gather entropy from a timer and feed it to random(4).

maxwell collects randomness from the small variations in a system
timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to random (4).

The amount of output varies with the parameters chosen, but is
generally a few K bits per second. The quality is intended to be very high.
Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

There are a number of other ways to feed entropy to random (4).
The advantage of maxwell is that it is small, simple and only minimally
hardware-dependent. The other methods also have advantages, and in many
cases one of them will be preferable to this one.
   

Please consider an informal review of the package description on
debian-l10n-english as well.

To me the first paragraph is an incomplete sentence and its
information is contained in the second as well. How about

The maxwell daemon collects randomness from the small variations in a
system timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to
random(4).

And most of the last two paragraphs seems vague and trivial.

Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

A typical use case would help.

The other methods also have advantages, and in many cases one of
them will be preferable to this one.

The advantages are trivial. The alternate methods are not mentioned.
What are the criteria?

And perhaps some words on why the name would not hurt. Some people
primarly think of electromagnetic fields when they hear/read Maxwell.

BTW: I strongly suggest s/random (4)/random(4)/ and appreciate the
hint to the manual page.


Martin


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Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-18 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez

On 12-07-18 04:43 PM, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:



Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

Hi Pedro,

if I understand things right, you missed a CC to

|  cont...@bugs.debian.org

and a separate line

thanks

to make your control commands become effictive.
|

* Package name : maxwell
   Version  : 1.2-1
   Upstream Author  : Sandy Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com
* URL  : ftp://ftp.cs.sjtu.edu.cn:990/sandy/maxwell/
* License  : GPL v2
   Programming Language : C
* Description  : entropy-gathering daemon

Daemon to gather entropy from a timer and feed it to random(4).

maxwell collects randomness from the small variations in a system
timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to random (4).

The amount of output varies with the parameters chosen, but is
generally a few K bits per second. The quality is intended to be very
high.
Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

There are a number of other ways to feed entropy to random (4).
The advantage of maxwell is that it is small, simple and only minimally
hardware-dependent. The other methods also have advantages, and in many
cases one of them will be preferable to this one.

Please consider an informal review of the package description on
debian-l10n-english as well.

To me the first paragraph is an incomplete sentence and its
information is contained in the second as well. How about

 The maxwell daemon collects randomness from the small variations in a
 system timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to
 random(4).

And most of the last two paragraphs seems vague and trivial.

 Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

A typical use case would help.

 The other methods also have advantages, and in many cases one of
 them will be preferable to this one.

The advantages are trivial. The alternate methods are not mentioned.
What are the criteria?

And perhaps some words on why the name would not hurt. Some people
primarly think of electromagnetic fields when they hear/read Maxwell.

BTW: I strongly suggest s/random (4)/random(4)/ and appreciate the
hint to the manual page.


Martin




Hi Martin,

Regarding the missing CC to cont...@bugs.debian.org, I didn't know about 
it. But I used reportbug to send the ITP bug update and I assumed that 
any standard CC would be taken care of by reportbug. Anyway, shall I 
copy the ITP bug to cont...@bugs.debian.org now? or is it too late?


Regarding the package description, I just copied the verbatim the text 
from the upstream maintainer. I'll take your comments into consideration 
for the next revision of the package.


Thank you for your comments.

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Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-18 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez

On 12-07-18 07:44 PM, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote:

On 12-07-18 04:43 PM, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:



Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchezpsanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

Hi Pedro,

if I understand things right, you missed a CC to

|  cont...@bugs.debian.org

and a separate line

thanks

to make your control commands become effictive.
|

* Package name : maxwell
   Version  : 1.2-1
   Upstream Author  : Sandy Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com
* URL  : ftp://ftp.cs.sjtu.edu.cn:990/sandy/maxwell/
* License  : GPL v2
   Programming Language : C
* Description  : entropy-gathering daemon

Daemon to gather entropy from a timer and feed it to random(4).

maxwell collects randomness from the small variations in a system
timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to random (4).

The amount of output varies with the parameters chosen, but is
generally a few K bits per second. The quality is intended to be very
high.
Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

There are a number of other ways to feed entropy to random (4).
The advantage of maxwell is that it is small, simple and only minimally
hardware-dependent. The other methods also have advantages, and in many
cases one of them will be preferable to this one.

Please consider an informal review of the package description on
debian-l10n-english as well.

To me the first paragraph is an incomplete sentence and its
information is contained in the second as well. How about

 The maxwell daemon collects randomness from the small variations
in a
 system timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to
 random(4).

And most of the last two paragraphs seems vague and trivial.

 Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

A typical use case would help.

 The other methods also have advantages, and in many cases one of
 them will be preferable to this one.

The advantages are trivial. The alternate methods are not mentioned.
What are the criteria?

And perhaps some words on why the name would not hurt. Some people
primarly think of electromagnetic fields when they hear/read Maxwell.

BTW: I strongly suggest s/random (4)/random(4)/ and appreciate the
hint to the manual page.


Martin




Hi Martin,

Regarding the missing CC to cont...@bugs.debian.org, I didn't know about
it. But I used reportbug to send the ITP bug update and I assumed that
any standard CC would be taken care of by reportbug. Anyway, shall I
copy the ITP bug to cont...@bugs.debian.org now? or is it too late?

Regarding the package description, I just copied the verbatim the text
from the upstream maintainer. I'll take your comments into consideration
for the next revision of the package.

Thank you for your comments.



I forgot to mention that the package comes with the file Maxwell.pdf 
with details about the rationale behind the implemented algorithm.


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Bug#662736: ITP: maxwell -- entropy-gathering daemon

2012-07-17 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchez psanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchez psanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #662736
Owner: Pedro I. Sanchez psanc...@fosstel.com

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name : maxwell
  Version  : 1.2-1
  Upstream Author  : Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com
* URL  : ftp://ftp.cs.sjtu.edu.cn:990/sandy/maxwell/
* License  : GPL v2
  Programming Language : C
* Description  : entropy-gathering daemon

Daemon to gather entropy from a timer and feed it to random(4).

maxwell collects randomness from the small variations in a system
timer, distills it into a concentrated form, and sends it to random (4).

The amount of output varies with the parameters chosen, but is
generally a few K bits per second. The quality is intended to be very high.
Both volume and quality should be adequate for most applications.

There are a number of other ways to feed entropy to random (4).
The advantage of maxwell is that it is small, simple and only minimally
hardware-dependent. The other methods also have advantages, and in many
cases one of them will be preferable to this one.


The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:

http://mentors.debian.net/package/maxwell

This is an inital release.

TODO:

* Package to consider the fact that maxwell is a daemon.
* Create binaries for accompanying test programs.


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