Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-05 Thread Cleto Martin Angelina
Hi! Thanks for your feedback.

After taking a look into the documentation you provided (and others), I
think there are reasonable doubts about the current status of the security
and privacy levels that Telegram provides to their users. I agree with
Holger that it is not a good idea to package for Debian currently.

Cheers,
 cleto.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 On Montag, 3. Februar 2014, Cleto Martín wrote:
  * URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
   Telegram messenger is a cloud-based instant messaging platform
   designed for smart phones and similar to Whatsapp but more flexible,
   and powerful. You can send messages, photos, videos and documents to
   people who are in your phone contacts (and have Telegram). Telegram
   also supports secret chats whose provide a private (encrypted) way of
   communication.

 according to http://blog.tincho.org/posts/Telegram/ the privacy of this
 tool/plattform is non existing, it rather collects the users private data
 and
 sends it to a server.

 I believe such software should not be packaged for+in Debian as it seems
 to be
 today...: literally, a money-quote from this blog post (from a fellow DD):

 The first thing the application did was to check my address book for
 contacts, without my permission or knowledge. I got greeted by being told
 that
 some of my contacts already have Telegram installed, and since then I keep
 getting notification that some more of my geek friends are installing it.
 So
 it is obvious that this company got all my records, breaking my privacy and
 security.


 cheers,
 Holger, who hasn't tried telegram himself...



Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 08:52:41PM +, Cleto Martín wrote:
 * URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
 * License : GPL
As the binary is linked with -lssl, it cannot be distributed.

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Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Cleto Martín dijo [Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 08:52:41PM +]:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Cleto Martín cl...@debian.org
 
 * Package name: telegram-cli
   Version : 0.1
   Upstream Author : Vitaly Valtman
 * URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
 * License : GPL
   Programming Lang: C
   Description : Command-line interface for Telegram messenger

Also, please look at Martín Ferrari's blog post¹ before doing work
that will promote the use of Telegram.

Granted, the Telegram client *is* free software (barring the already
mentioned GPL/SSL license compatibility issue) and has legitimate
uses, but Martín's analysis seems quite thorough and interesting!

¹ http://blog.tincho.org/posts/Telegram/


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Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-04 Thread Justin B Rye
I don't know if this ITP is still alive, but if so I think we should
be Cc-ing the bug rather than posting on debian-devel.

 Cleto Martín wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 * Package name: telegram-cli
[...]
   Description : Command-line interface for Telegram messenger

That's more or less just an expansion of the package name, and doesn't
give me much of a clue what this software is for.

Is this a single binary package?  If it's one package for a library
and one for the executable, they should probably have short
descriptions along the lines of

 Description: phone instant messenger - shared library
 Description: phone instant messenger - command-line interface

  Telegram messenger is a cloud-based instant messaging platform
  designed for smart phones and similar to Whatsapp but more flexible,

These days it's usually s/smart phones/smartphones/

Isn't it WhatsApp, with capital A?

No need for a comma after flexible.

  and powerful. You can send messages, photos, videos and documents to
  people who are in your phone contacts (and have Telegram). Telegram
  also supports secret chats whose provide a private (encrypted) way of
  ^

Chris Bannister wrote:
  That should be which provides?

Chats are plural, so they provide (no -s).  Or say providing.

Also, a [...] way of communication seems unidiomatic - s/way/means/

  communication.
  .
  This package contains a command-line based client for Telegram with

What's the difference between a command-line based client and an
actual command-line client?

  the following features:
   * Colored terminal messages.
   * Message management: history, stats, etc.
   * Group chat: create and manage groups.
   * Secret chat: secured and encrypted conversations.
   * Contact management: add/edit/remove contacts.
   * Multimedia support: send/load photos and videos.

This isn't quite in d-l-e house style, but it's okay.
-- 
JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian
sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package


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Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 3. Februar 2014, Cleto Martín wrote:
 * URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
  Telegram messenger is a cloud-based instant messaging platform
  designed for smart phones and similar to Whatsapp but more flexible,
  and powerful. You can send messages, photos, videos and documents to
  people who are in your phone contacts (and have Telegram). Telegram
  also supports secret chats whose provide a private (encrypted) way of
  communication.

according to http://blog.tincho.org/posts/Telegram/ the privacy of this 
tool/plattform is non existing, it rather collects the users private data and 
sends it to a server. 

I believe such software should not be packaged for+in Debian as it seems to be 
today...: literally, a money-quote from this blog post (from a fellow DD): 

The first thing the application did was to check my address book for 
contacts, without my permission or knowledge. I got greeted by being told that 
some of my contacts already have Telegram installed, and since then I keep 
getting notification that some more of my geek friends are installing it. So 
it is obvious that this company got all my records, breaking my privacy and 
security.


cheers,
Holger, who hasn't tried telegram himself...


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Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram

2014-02-03 Thread Cleto Martín
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Cleto Martín cl...@debian.org

* Package name: telegram-cli
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Vitaly Valtman
* URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Command-line interface for Telegram messenger

 Telegram messenger is a cloud-based instant messaging platform
 designed for smart phones and similar to Whatsapp but more flexible,
 and powerful. You can send messages, photos, videos and documents to
 people who are in your phone contacts (and have Telegram). Telegram
 also supports secret chats whose provide a private (encrypted) way of
 communication.
 .
 This package contains a command-line based client for Telegram with
 the following features:
  * Colored terminal messages.
  * Message management: history, stats, etc.
  * Group chat: create and manage groups.
  * Secret chat: secured and encrypted conversations.
  * Contact management: add/edit/remove contacts.
  * Multimedia support: send/load photos and videos.


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