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Bug #805268 [wnpp] O: syslinux -- collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and NTFS 
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Bug #805268 [wnpp] O: syslinux -- collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and NTFS 
bootloader)
Changed Bug title to 'ITA: syslinux -- collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and 
NTFS bootloader)' from 'O: syslinux -- collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and 
NTFS bootloader)'.

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Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Lukas Schwaighofer]

Control: owner -1 Debian CD Group 
Control: retitle -1 ITA: syslinux -- collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and 
NTFS bootloader)

Hi,

I intend to work on syslinux as part of the Debian CD Group.  I'm open
to team maintenance and will probably need help every now and then
anyways, so if you read this and also want to step in just let me
know :) .

Regards
Lukas

Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Steve McIntyre]

HUP!

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 03:38:29PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 03:27:49PM +, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
>>On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:52:24PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:



However we decide to organise things, are you still interested in
working on this, Christian? We're still short of an active syslinux
maintainer, and I've just fixed an RC bug last weekend.

As I've been reminded (several times!) we could do with somebody
communicating with upstream (mailing list and/or irc: #syslinux in
freenode) too - they're a friendly enough bunch and want to work with
us!

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Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane...

Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Steve McIntyre]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 03:27:49PM +, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:52:24PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:
>> Oh, I didn't know you were also planning to adopt it - the package
>> had been orphaned for quite a while now, and I just assumed there
>> were no other takers.
>
>No problem, we should have been speedier at sending the emails.
>
>> I'd be very happy to co-maintain the package though - I just didn't
>> mention that in the ITA mail because I thought that if someone else
>> was interested in the package, they'd have already adopted it by
>> that time.
>
>I've CC'd the CD team, I wonder if we'd like to set the maintainer line to
>Debian CD. If not, we can set it to Debian Live. I'd definitely want to have
>this maintained by one of those teams.

Makes sense, yes. Whatever makes most sense to you guys, really. We're
looking at starting up (or maybe switching to) a Debian Images team,
whic might work even better?

>> My plans for the package were to update to a newer upstream
>> version (there's a -pre1 from the beginning of this year of
>> 6.04 IIRC, but I wanted to go through upstream git to see if
>> a git snapshot might not be better suited), and improve the
>> packaging were needed. (Though the last QA upload already did
>> quite a bit there.) I then wanted to ask for sponsorship for
>> an upload to experimental first and let it stew there for a
>> while before going on to sid.
>
>Unless there are big objections from Debian CD, I'd really like to not make
>any changes for syslinux that may cause breakage in the release process. I'm
>happy that we can do bugfix uploads, but I wouldn't want to make any updates
>to new upstreams before stretch is released (or at least, wouldn't want
>those updates migrating to stretch though we could load them into unstable
>after the final freeze).

Definitely, and thanks for thinking of us. We've had a very bad
historical experience with breaking changes hitting us around release
times.

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"I've only once written 'SQL is my bitch' in a comment. But that code 
 is in use on a military site..." -- Simon Booth

Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Iain R. Learmonth]

Hi,

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:52:24PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Oh, I didn't know you were also planning to adopt it - the package
> had been orphaned for quite a while now, and I just assumed there
> were no other takers.

No problem, we should have been speedier at sending the emails.

> I'd be very happy to co-maintain the package though - I just didn't
> mention that in the ITA mail because I thought that if someone else
> was interested in the package, they'd have already adopted it by
> that time.

I've CC'd the CD team, I wonder if we'd like to set the maintainer line to
Debian CD. If not, we can set it to Debian Live. I'd definitely want to have
this maintained by one of those teams.

> My plans for the package were to update to a newer upstream
> version (there's a -pre1 from the beginning of this year of
> 6.04 IIRC, but I wanted to go through upstream git to see if
> a git snapshot might not be better suited), and improve the
> packaging were needed. (Though the last QA upload already did
> quite a bit there.) I then wanted to ask for sponsorship for
> an upload to experimental first and let it stew there for a
> while before going on to sid.

Unless there are big objections from Debian CD, I'd really like to not make
any changes for syslinux that may cause breakage in the release process. I'm
happy that we can do bugfix uploads, but I wouldn't want to make any updates
to new upstreams before stretch is released (or at least, wouldn't want
those updates migrating to stretch though we could load them into unstable
after the final freeze).

Thanks,
Iain.



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Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Christian Seiler]

Hi,

On 11/11/2016 02:48 PM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
> I notice you're planning to adopt syslinux. We were planning to adopt this
> package under the Debian Live/Debian CD teams as we use this for the
> official CD image builds.

Oh, I didn't know you were also planning to adopt it - the package
had been orphaned for quite a while now, and I just assumed there
were no other takers.

I'd be very happy to co-maintain the package though - I just didn't
mention that in the ITA mail because I thought that if someone else
was interested in the package, they'd have already adopted it by
that time.

> This is not a trivial package to maintain

Yes, I'm aware of that. :)

> and updates really *need* to be
> coordinated with the CD team, especially when coming up to release time.

Yes - the reason I became interested in maintaining the package
is because of previous changes leading to previous use cases not
working anymore. And I do think the package is in need of some
love.

> I notice also that you're currently a DM, and I'll be happy to sponsor
> uploads of this package and also perform testing of the Debian Live
> toolchain with those updates before the new package is introduced into the
> archives.

Great, thanks.

My plans for the package were to update to a newer upstream
version (there's a -pre1 from the beginning of this year of
6.04 IIRC, but I wanted to go through upstream git to see if
a git snapshot might not be better suited), and improve the
packaging were needed. (Though the last QA upload already did
quite a bit there.) I then wanted to ask for sponsorship for
an upload to experimental first and let it stew there for a
while before going on to sid.

I hope you agree with that basic plan. And as I said above:
if you're interested in co-maintaining the package, it
welcome that as well.

Regards,
Christian

Bug#805268: Adoption of syslinux

[Iain R. Learmonth]

Hi,

I notice you're planning to adopt syslinux. We were planning to adopt this
package under the Debian Live/Debian CD teams as we use this for the
official CD image builds.

This is not a trivial package to maintain and updates really *need* to be
coordinated with the CD team, especially when coming up to release time.

I'm happy if you're still interested in maintaining this, but I just wanted
to make you aware of the importance of this package before you commit to its
maintainance.

I notice also that you're currently a DM, and I'll be happy to sponsor
uploads of this package and also perform testing of the Debian Live
toolchain with those updates before the new package is introduced into the
archives.

Thanks,
Iain.



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