Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Sat, May 12, 2001, Simon Richter wrote:
 I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
 questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
 package page.

 How about the README.Debian in your package? That file is there for
that purposes.  And I won't bet that users read the package-page more
often than the README.Debain (I might be wrong).  Maybe you can add an
hint for the README.Debain to the Description?

 HTH!
Alfie
-- 
To err is human,
To purr feline.
-- Robert Byrne



Re: information

2001-05-14 Thread Ciobîcã

French at the end. / Francais a la fin.

Alain, you are suppose to send e-mail to this list in English. If you
can't do that, you are suppose to look for a list in your own language.

For French you can try this page: http://www.debian.org/international/French;.
Or send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
subscribe your_email_address in the body (not in the subject).
Or write to debian-l10n-french@lists.debian.org.

Concerning your request, I am not sure I understand correctly. You want to
translate from Croatian to French? How Debian can help you with that?
For tehnical aspects regarding the translation you may want to look
at http://www.debian.org/devel/website/; or
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/index.XX.html;, where XX = the
two letters from the contry code.

 DEBIAN PEUT T-IL M`AIDER.
 JE VEUX ETRE CAPABLE DE LIRE UNE PAGE WEB DE LA CROATIE ET DE LA TRADUIRE EN 
 FRANCAIS.S.V.P COMMENT FAIRE.
 UN GROS MERCI A DEBIAN.
 ALAIN

Alain, tu doit envoyer messages en anglais pour ce liste. Si tu peut pas,
essaye de trouve une liste dans ta langue.

Pour francais regarde la page http://www.debian.org/international/French;
ou http://www.debian.org/international/French.fr.html; si la precedente
n'est pas en francais. Tu pourra aussi t'enregistre dans la liste
[EMAIL PROTECTED] si tu envoye un message avec
subscribe votre_adresse_email dans le corps du message (pas le sujet).
Ou tu peut ecrire a  debian-l10n-french@lists.debian.org.

Concernant ta demande, je ne suis pas sure que je bien compri. Tu veut
traduire en francais un document croat? Comment Debian peut t'aide avec ca?
Les aspectes techique concernant la traductions sont a la page
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/; ou
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/index.XX.html; (XX = les deux
letter qui sont le code de la pays).


Regards,
Ionel



Re: broken mirror registration form

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Schulze
Frank Altpeter wrote:
 
 hello !
 
 I just tried to register a new debian mirror, but it seems that the web
 form at http://www.debian.org/mirror/submit is broken.

Please always tell us which language you are using (or which lang is displayed)

 The html page stops displaying after the line 
 
 Arten des Spiegels und Zugriffsmethoden

Ok, so it's the German version.

I've found the problem, when I translated the page I missed one
/table, so two tables weren't closed, which screwed up the
output.  Will be fixed in max. 6 hrs, it's fixed in cvs already.

 Strange to say that the page source seems to be correct.

No, it's not.  Look:

trtdDebian-Webseiten, über NFS: tdinput type=text 
name=www-nfs size=30
table summary=

That should have been a closing table

Apart from that, the lines look strange...

Btw. if you plan to receive answer, you'd better adjust your
Mail-Followup-To: header since I guess you're not reading
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

Joey

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Re: mirror/submit.wml

2001-05-14 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Mon, May 14, 2001, peter karlsson wrote:
 Martin Schulze:
 
 Our definition of tablerow looks weired and assumes that browser
 actually ignore non-closing tags.
 
 Having the ending tag for TD and TR is strictly optional in HTML.

 Though it's optional it's bad manner to omit it, IMHO.  The evolution
tends to go the xml-direction, and there it's nowhere optional.  We
shouldn't keep bad habits.

 So long!
Alfie [my 0.02 EUR]
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To purr feline.
-- Robert Byrne



Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:54:37PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
 On Sat, 12 May 2001, Josip Rodin wrote:
 
 [Notes on the package page]
 
Can't you add the notes in the Description: field of the package?
 
   Not really, because they are about future versions of the package
   (upstream is working on some fixes for bugs that appear randomly, so am
   I). I don't think that would be appropriate for the Description.
 
  And what exactly makes you think it would be appropriate for the package web
  page, then?
 
 I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
 questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
 package page.
 
Why don't you just include a URL (people.d.o is a good place to use) in the
description pointing to a page with this extra information?

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
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Re: Testing URLcheck

2001-05-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 03:21:28PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
 Something strange I noticed while reading urlcheck's output:
 
 | Looking into http://www.debian.org/events/2001/0504-linuxtag-braunschweig
 |   http://braunschweiger.linuxtage.de/ : IOError: gave up on site (15 second 
 limit)
 |   http://braunschweiger.linuxtage.de/ : IOError: gave up on site (15 second 
 limit)
 |   http://braunschweiger.linuxtage.de/ : IOError: gave up on site (15 second 
 limit)
 
 What's that?  Some connection limit?  If so could urlcheck be advised
 to check such an address later?  Additionally, could urlcheck cache
 pages?
 
The default timeout is quite long (2min?) and causes the script to take an 
incredibly
long time to run so I used a signal to shorten it. The message shows the time 
before
timing out, so if the site actually works you can ignore the message.

 | Looking into http://www.debian.org/events/2001/0704-debcon
 |   http://www.debian.org/events/2001/0704-debcon.fr.html : Error = (404) Not 
 Found
 
 That's quite strange, some apache problem?
 
 | Looking into http://www.debian.org/events/2001/
 |   http://www.debian.org/events/2001/index.fr.html : Error = (404) Not Found
 
 Problem on www.debian.org.
 
I suspect both of these will not show up on the next run. When will that be?
Soon, I hope (have to make a few changes before the next run).

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Re: Debian WWW CVS: italian

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Schulze
To our italian translators:

Debian WWW CVS wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvs/webwml
 Module name:  webwml
 Changes by:   italian 01/05/14 03:53:45
 
 Modified files:
   italian/events : index.wml 
 
 Log message:
 normal update
  ^

A more descriptive log messages would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Joey

-- 
Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.



Re: mirror/submit.wml

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Schulze
peter karlsson wrote:
 Martin Schulze:
 
  Our definition of tablerow looks weired and assumes that browser
  actually ignore non-closing tags.
 
 Having the ending tag for TD and TR is strictly optional in HTML.

Really?  I always thought that HTML was strict about those tags,
especially since Netscape tends to stop working or behave strangely
when some of them are missing.

However, even if they're optional, we're trying to provide good HTML,
or not?

Regards,

Joey

-- 
Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.



Re: mirror/submit.wml

2001-05-14 Thread peter karlsson
Martin Schulze:

 Really?

Yes. I have never ever written a single /TD or /TR in a page, and
all my pages work perfectly. (Of course I've stopped using tables for
layout now, but I still have tables for content).

 However, even if they're optional, we're trying to provide good HTML,
 or not?

Not having /TD is not good HTML (IMHO). Not unless we're trying to do
XHTML, which requires them.

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Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:26:54 -0500, James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:54:37PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
  On Sat, 12 May 2001, Josip Rodin wrote:
  
  [Notes on the package page]
  
 Can't you add the notes in the Description: field of the package?
  
Not really, because they are about future versions of the package
(upstream is working on some fixes for bugs that appear randomly, so am
I). I don't think that would be appropriate for the Description.
  
   And what exactly makes you think it would be appropriate for the package 
   web
   page, then?
  
  I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
  questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
  package page.
  
 Why don't you just include a URL (people.d.o is a good place to use) in the
 description pointing to a page with this extra information?

IMHO, this is the best solution, Simon.

 
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Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:

  I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
  questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
  package page.

  How about the README.Debian in your package? That file is there for
 that purposes.  And I won't bet that users read the package-page more
 often than the README.Debain (I might be wrong).  Maybe you can add an
 hint for the README.Debain to the Description?

Yes, that's an idea, thanks (Leaving the bug open in case anyone still
finds such a feature interesting).

   Simon

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Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 14 May 2001, James A. Treacy wrote:

[Notes on the package page]

  I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
  questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
  package page.

 Why don't you just include a URL (people.d.o is a good place to use) in the
 description pointing to a page with this extra information?

Also possible. I'm going to do an intermediate package with the
preliminary debconf scripts then, ask for comments in the description and
file an rc bug against the package so it doesn't get into testing.

Do the package page scripts recognize links? :-)

   Simon

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Bug#97263: package page: Would like to add notes

2001-05-14 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Tue, 15 May 2001 00:36:32 +0200 (CEST), Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Mon, 14 May 2001, James A. Treacy wrote:
 
 [Notes on the package page]
 
   I'd like to have user feedback on a few packaging issues, especially the
   questions debconf will ask. I can't think of a better place than the
   package page.
 
  Why don't you just include a URL (people.d.o is a good place to use) in the
  description pointing to a page with this extra information?
 
 Also possible. I'm going to do an intermediate package with the
 preliminary debconf scripts then, ask for comments in the description and
 file an rc bug against the package so it doesn't get into testing.
 
 Do the package page scripts recognize links? :-)

Yes, see http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/apache.html, for instance.

 
Simon
 
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