Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:16:05AM +0200, David Martinez CSIC RedIRIS wrote: No new news from the automatic list update discussion and i18n? Er, what? Sorry, I thought that someone was discussing this issue, I heard that in debian-l10n-spanish. In other words, is there any chance that the mklist script that generates subscribe.wml to be translated? Yes, someone just needs to dig out all of those translatable strings, make them sliced tags, and then make mklist output those tags instead of the strings. PS: I'm on debian-www, don't Cc: me. If you put a Mail-Followup-To header... -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
David Martinez CSIC RedIRIS: PS: I'm on debian-www, don't Cc: me. Do what I do, spam-filter replies to lists that you subscribe to. (But people should really learn to trim down their recipient list when replying to list mail). -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html
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Hey there, I found a great retail site with all kinds of products. Home decor, office decor, travel, outdoors, kitchen, etc... Take a look around at http://www.merchandisewholesale.com just click on the images of the product to enlarge it for a better view. Sincerely, John
New menu schema.
I just uploaded ports/arm/software_map.wml, that had that old #include menu.inc instead of #include $(ENGLISHDIR)/ports/arm/menu.inc I've put the same CVS log that the rest of the changed pages had. Ender. -- Why is a cow? Mu. (Omm) -- Responsable de News - Newsmanager Servicios de red - Network services Centro de Comunicaciones CSIC/RedIRIS Spanish Academic Network for Research and Development Madrid (Spain) Tlf 91.585.49.05
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:16:05AM +0200, David Martinez CSIC RedIRIS wrote: PS: I'm on debian-www, don't Cc: me. The following at the top of your .procmailrc will remove duplicate mails, i.e. mail using the same msgid: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
On Tue, May 22, 2001, James A. Treacy wrote: The following at the top of your .procmailrc will remove duplicate mails, i.e. mail using the same msgid: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache The problem with this is that usually direct mails are faster than the ones that come through the list - and on the other hand it's easier to sort the ones that come through the list for they use the ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] headers (or similar)... Haven't found a perfect solution yet, but I'm not the one who's complaining :) So long, Alfie -- To err is human, To purr feline. -- Robert Byrne
Language-independent Makefiles (was: Debian WWW CVS: joey)
Debian WWW CVS: Modified Makefile so card.* are only valid for english websites since two translaters blindly copied the english Makefile and broke the build. *sigh* Makefiles should be language-independent, so they more easily can be copied from the English directory (if you use copypage.pl, the Makefile is copied automatically for you). Besides, almost all files say This file should need no changes [...] at the top... :-) -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html
Re: Language-independent Makefiles (was: Debian WWW CVS: joey)
peter karlsson wrote: Debian WWW CVS: Modified Makefile so card.* are only valid for english websites since two translaters blindly copied the english Makefile and broke the build. *sigh* Makefiles should be language-independent, so they more easily can be copied I've learned that now, people are just not typing make after copying Makefiles... *sigh* from the English directory (if you use copypage.pl, the Makefile is copied automatically for you). Besides, almost all files say This file should need no changes [...] at the top... :-) Well, if this would be the case, why do they have to be copied at all? Couldn't the upper makefile not link the english makefile to it? Regards, Joey -- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall
Re: Language-independent Makefiles (was: Debian WWW CVS: joey)
Martin Schulze: I've learned that now, people are just not typing make after copying Makefiles... *sigh* I don't build for every change, because of the time involved. However, I do have automatic builds set up every night, so I get any error messages by mail in the morning (for the Swedish translation, that is), and act upon it. Well, if this would be the case, why do they have to be copied at all? I don't know. For some Makefiles that are changing rapidly, I have just included the original. -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
* Gerfried Fuchs | Haven't found a perfect solution yet, but I'm not the one who's | complaining :) gnus is obviously the answer. Tell it to mark duplicates as read. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.
'cannot open directory' messages from CVS
A number of old directories have been deleted from CVS over the last while. Since CVS is not intelligent enough to deal with this cleanly, you may be getting messages such as the following: cvs server: cannot open directory /cvs/webwml/webwml/german/template: No such file or directory In this case, simple remove the directory (and its contents). The following directories are ones that I know have been deleted: webwml/*/2.0 webwml/*/SPI webwml/*/template webwml/english/international/chinese -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Site map
Great work!
I have just done 'make sitemap.es.html' in the spanish dir and I've
found that it (mostly) works ok. There do appear to be some problems, mainly
due to translators not translating correctly wml headers (for example in the
spanish Bugs/ wml files) and due to pages not being translated.
Maybe we should add some kind of tag so that unstranslated pages are
marked as such and the user does not get confused by mixed languages (both
the original one and the translated version)...
How about this (quick and ugly) patch:
--- english/sitemap.wml Tue May 22 01:01:20 2001
+++ spanish/sitemap.wml Tue May 22 16:38:10 2001
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
perl
sub title_of {
my ($page) = @_;
+ my $untranslated = 0;
# special cases
if ($page eq http://lists.debian.org/;) { return mailarchives }
@@ -25,9 +26,13 @@
$page =~ s,/testing/,/woody/,; # kludges...
if ($page =~ /\/$/) { $page .= index.wml } else { $page .= .wml };
# print STDERR page: $page\n; return;
- $page = $ENGLISHDIR/$page unless (-f $page);
+ if ( ! -f $page ) {
+ $page = $ENGLISHDIR/$page;
+ $untranslated = 1;
+ }
my $title = grep '^#use .* title=' $page; chomp $title;
$title =~ s/^#use .* title=([^]+).*$/$1/;
+ $title = [untranslated] .$title if $untranslated;
return $title;
}
/perl
Of course the [untranslated] should be changed to untranslated
and be a tag in the wml templates :)
Regards
Javi
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:39:37AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
I've almost finished the site map[1]. It should be fairly complete. I didn't
include any of the smaller subpages, like devel/extract_key and such, just
the (semi-)important stuff.
[...]
For the most part, it worked, but the title and the sliced tags are missing
and in English, respectively. Can anyone advise, how to perfect this? I'm
out of ideas.
I noticed later that the slices were used, it's just that HR slices that I
looked at were either the same as EN ones or nonexistent. blush
So, I'll edit the Makefiles for all of the languages RSN and then we can
start thinking of implementing the first item of the TODO list.
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
On Tue, May 22, 2001, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: gnus is obviously the answer. Tell it to mark duplicates as read. You are citing out of the context. Go away and do the MUA-war in some other place ;-) So long, Alfie -- To err is human, To purr feline. -- Robert Byrne
Re: Language-independent Makefiles (was: Debian WWW CVS: joey)
El Mar 22 May 2001 15:45, peter karlsson escribió: Debian WWW CVS: Modified Makefile so card.* are only valid for english websites since two translaters blindly copied the english Makefile and broke the build. *sigh* Mmmm...I think I may be one of them...but you were warned. I asked if I could copy *blindly* english Makefiles...and I certainly did it (the top level Makefile and nineteen more). Makefiles should be language-independent, so they more easily can be copied from the English directory (if you use copypage.pl, the Makefile is copied automatically for you). Yes, but changes in english Makefiles aren't automatically propagated to the whole structure...maybe a hackish script upd-makef.sh, like #!/bin/bash if [ -z $1 ] then echo Need a Makefile to copy. exit 1 fi if [ ! -f $1 ] then echo $1 doesn't exist. exit 1 fi # We obtain the directory. DIR=`dirname $1` # Strip english/ from the name. DIR=`echo $DIR | sed 's#^\(./\)\?english\(/\)\?##'` # Separate dirs from any other thing. for STUFF in `ls` do # We want all the dirs but english/ and CVS/. if [ -d $STUFF ] [ ! $STUFF = english ] [ ! $STUFF = CVS ] then LIST=$LIST$STUFF fi done # Variable CHANGES will carry all the Makefiles involved (for now, only the english Makefile). CHANGES=$1 # Check if the directory where Makefile is taken from exists in the rest of dirs. for STUFF in $LIST do if [ -d $STUFF/$DIR ] then # We copy the english Makefile over the old one in $STUFF$DIR. cp english/$DIR/Makefile $STUFF/$DIR CHANGES=$CHANGES$STUFF/$DIR/Makefile fi done cvs commit $CHANGES It propagates a new Makefile in all the tree, but only when the right dir exists (e.g., it doesn't try to copy english/devel/wnpp/Makefile in arabic since arabic/devel/wnpp/ doesn't exist.) Do you like? We can put it in webwml/...it isn't rock-solid, but I've tested just now and I think it works properly. Besides, almost all files say This file should need no changes [...] at the top... :-) That line is the main reason of my changes. Best regards, Ender. -- Why is a cow? Mu. (Omm) -- Responsable de News - Newsmanager Servicios de red - Network services Centro de Comunicaciones CSIC/RedIRIS Spanish Academic Network for Research and Development Madrid (Spain) Tlf 91.585.49.05
Re: Debian WWW CVS: dmartinez
* Gerfried Fuchs | On Tue, May 22, 2001, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | gnus is obviously the answer. Tell it to mark duplicates as read. | | You are citing out of the context. Actually not. A sane MUA should be able to see that this is a message which you have seen before and mark it as read (or something else you prefer, like delete it). Not having used KMail, I don't know if it has such a feature. | Go away and do the MUA-war in some other place ;-) ;-) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.
Re: DWN Editor team, how and what?
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | -meta name=Authorcontent=Debian Webmaster, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +meta name=Authorcontent=Joey Hess, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Is this required? All other people contribute their pages to the | maintenance of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I believe DWN is also | maintained by the webmaster team after it was committed to CVS. No idea - if it's not needed, that just makes things easier for us, so if we could stop using it, I'd appreciate. :) If you want to change it, go ahead. -- see shy jo
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Re: DWN Editor team, how and what?
* Joey Hess | No idea - if it's not needed, that just makes things easier for us, so | if we could stop using it, I'd appreciate. :) | | If you want to change it, go ahead. What was the reason for having it there in the first place? If there is a good reason, we can surely keep it, but if not, then I'd like to get rid of it. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.
Changed version without changing contents?
Hello friends, I was updating my translations (portuguese) when I noticed that version number changed in the following files: NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/free.wml from version 1.10 to version 1.12 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/cooperation.wml from version 1.4 to version 1.6 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/why_debian.wml from version 1.22 to version 1.24 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/search.wml from version 1.2 to version 1.4 but ./check-trans.pl -d says: --- begin NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/free.wml from version 1.10 to version 1.12 Index: english/intro/free.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/free.wml,v retrieving revision 1.10 retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.10 -r1.12 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/cooperation.wml from version 1.4 to version 1.6 Index: english/intro/cooperation.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/cooperation.wml,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.4 -r1.6 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/why_debian.wml from version 1.22 to version 1.24 Index: english/intro/why_debian.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/why_debian.wml,v retrieving revision 1.22 retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.22 -r1.24 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/search.wml from version 1.2 to version 1.4 Index: english/intro/search.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/search.wml,v retrieving revision 1.2 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.2 -r1.4 --- end --- did the version grow with no modification or did check-trans.pl failed? thanks -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov *--* | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| (___) | | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | o o | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | \ ^ / | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | () | *--*
Re: Flat Tube Heat Exchanger Production Line Ugently Needed
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Re: DWN Editor team, how and what?
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Joey Hess | No idea - if it's not needed, that just makes things easier for us, so | if we could stop using it, I'd appreciate. :) | | If you want to change it, go ahead. What was the reason for having it there in the first place? If there is a good reason, we can surely keep it, but if not, then I'd like to get rid of it. No particularly good reason that I can remember. -- see shy jo
Re: Changed version without changing contents?
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:01:35PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: I was updating my translations (portuguese) when I noticed that version number changed in the following files: NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/free.wml from version 1.10 to version 1.12 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/cooperation.wml from version 1.4 to version 1.6 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/why_debian.wml from version 1.22 to version 1.24 NeedToUpdate portuguese/intro/search.wml from version 1.2 to version 1.4 but ./check-trans.pl -d says: [snip no differences] did the version grow with no modification or did check-trans.pl failed? It looks like the English versions were replaced by Romanian, and then restored. Matt
About internal links
Hi, in devel/website/translating.wml, the ``overview'' id is set via h3 name=overviewOverview .../h3 instead of traditional h3a name=overviewOverview ... /a/h3 This link does not work with all browsers, so i wonder whether this is intentional? Denis
Re: About internal links
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:28:46PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: Hi, in devel/website/translating.wml, the ``overview'' id is set via h3 name=overviewOverview .../h3 instead of traditional h3a name=overviewOverview ... /a/h3 This link does not work with all browsers, so i wonder whether this is intentional? Could you do a cvs update? This was fixed in version 1.11 (committed May 20). -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
