Re: Questions about latest build
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 08:57:50AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: I see in wml_run.log that many files (e.g. www-a-reviser.fr.html) are marked being created under french/international/french and copied into the right location, but they are not there (nor under source directory). Could someone tell me why? Eh, what? They're there. I just repeated a make install and they seem to be there. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: Opera - Debian.org
* Josip Rodin | On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Endre Steigum wrote: | Dear Business Developer of Debian.org, | [...] | | peterk, tfheen, did we do something to upset you guys? Although, I can't | think of anything that would cause you to unleash your marketing droids | upon us... ;) ;) Don't blame me either. I was on vacation. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win
http://www.de.debian.org/releases/woody/index.de.html
Hey, there is an error on page http://www.de.debian.org/releases/woody/index.de.html in a link that should point to http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/; and is called testing ... Diese Distribution befindet sich zur Zeit in der ``testing'' Phase. ... nore
Re: http://www.de.debian.org/releases/woody/index.de.html
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001, Norbert.Reschke wrote: Hey, there is an error on page http://www.de.debian.org/releases/woody/index.de.html in a link that should point to http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/; and is called testing Thank you for the notice, I fixed the bug in cvs, it will be fixed on the pages during the next run. If you find more, just let us know :-) So long, Alfie -- You never learn anything | /\ ,'~~. by doing it right. | / chaos \ alfie.ist.org |o ?~\ -- unknown | \inside!/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_ ~\ | \_/ \__,~ \
Re: Open Source is not the same as Free Software
Ellaborating a bit. My impression is that free software (at least as it is understood by Debian, see DFSG) and open source software (see the Open Source Definition) are essentgially the same. Then you have the free software movement and the open source software movement. They are rather different, although rather interlaced... Saludos, Jesus. Josip Rodin writes: On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:13:02PM +0100, Jaime E . Villate wrote: At the beginning of intro/free.wml it says: PstrongNote:/strong In February 1998 a group moved to replace the term Free Software with Open Source Software. As will become clear in the discussion below, they both refer to essentially the same thing. I think we should change it. Free Software and Open Source Software are two different movements and the second term poses several problems as you can read in http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html Our and FSF/GNU's view of the situation differs. For some of the latest of official SPI/Debian views on the issue, see http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/resolutions/resolution-2001-04-26.nl which has the following preamble: The Open Source term was established as a marketing term for free software (i.e., software which all people may freely use, study, modify, and share). SPI was founded to assist, support and defend the creation of free software. The Open Source definition is rooted in the definition of free software used by the Debian Project, an SPI member organization. The Open Source name is a central element to the SPI mission because it is a recognized term both among developers and businesses. SPI is committed to using its influence and resources to help ensure that the Open Source name represents the tenets and beliefs of the communities from which it grew. In http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/minutes/20010516 there are the following statements from Ean Schuessler: There are two ways we can go with this Open Source thing. We can turn the domains over to OSI, which I believe is a bad idea for reasons I think I've made relatively clear both in email and in the IRC discussion. Or we can form a committee to solicit assistance from the community and try to turn the domains into a useful tool for insuring that the definition of Free Software stays consistent. I think that protecting the meaning of Free Software (even when it is called Open Source) is well defined in our charter and I think our path of action here should be clear. [...] Ean wanted people to join a new Open Source committee to discuss these issues. His main personal concern is that a fork between the terms Free Software and Open Source is not acceptable. A decision is made to form the OS committee under lead of Ean and let them work on the issue. So, basically, if you want to change the official Debian stance on the issue, and therefore the web page, you need to talk to someone else than debian-www. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona| Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ESCET, Universidad Rey Juan Carlos tel: +34 91 664 74 67 | c/ Tulipan s/n fax: +34 91 664 74 90 | 28933 Mostoles, Spain
Bug#82852: DWN index for each year needs to depend on all the issues for that year
Hi, On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:42:06 -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: The Makefile dependencies are broken. I mailed a fix earlier today, but it still doesn't capture that the annual indices should depend on the issues for that year. I'll try to come up with a solution this evening. I can't figure out how to make the index for each year depend on all the issues for that year. Does anyone else know how to do this? I just tried to fix this, but it didn't seem to work. My thoughts were: */index.$(LANGUAGE).html: %/index.$(LANGUAGE).html: $(wildcard $*/*/index.wml) $(wildcard $(ENGLISHSRCDIR)/News/weekly/$*/*) \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/header.wml \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/index.wml \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/footer.wml This was just a guess based on the info in the make manual, and it didn't work. Looks like $* can't be used in the DEP-PATTERNS part, only COMMANDS. Using % instead of $* doesn't work, either. Does anyone have a hint? -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: Questions about latest build
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 09:57:19AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 08:57:50AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: I see in wml_run.log that many files (e.g. www-a-reviser.fr.html) are marked being created under french/international/french and copied into the right location, but they are not there (nor under source directory). Could someone tell me why? Eh, what? They're there. I just repeated a make install and they seem to be there. Really? Cannot find any www-*.fr.html under http://www.debian.org/intl/french/ Denis
Re: Questions about latest build
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 07:21:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: I see in wml_run.log that many files (e.g. www-a-reviser.fr.html) are marked being created under french/international/french and copied into the right location, but they are not there (nor under source directory). Could someone tell me why? Eh, what? They're there. I just repeated a make install and they seem to be there. Really? Cannot find any www-*.fr.html under http://www.debian.org/intl/french/ Okay, something went wrong :) They really are gone now. I think it could be caused by the remove_stale.pl script. I'll check it out. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Problem building wml
Hello all, I am having this problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/debian/www/webwml/portuguese/News/weekly] # make 2001/18/index.pt.html cd 2001/18 wml -q -D CUR_YEAR=2001 -o UNDEFuPT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] index.wml ** IPP:Error: file not found: debian/countries.def ** WML:Break: Error in Pass 1 (rc=1). make: ** [2001/18/index.pt.html] Erro 1 I tried to get the english's directory makefile but it didn't suffice.. I read the countries.wml thread but I don't think that I found something usefull there... maybe we should change something in the wmls? Well, this one shouldn't break as it is the new DWN's wml =( []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Re: Problem building wml
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:11:08PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: I am having this problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/debian/www/webwml/portuguese/News/weekly] # make 2001/18/index.pt.html cd 2001/18 wml -q -D CUR_YEAR=2001 -o UNDEFuPT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] index.wml ** IPP:Error: file not found: debian/countries.def ** WML:Break: Error in Pass 1 (rc=1). make: ** [2001/18/index.pt.html] Erro 1 I tried to get the english's directory makefile but it didn't suffice.. I read the countries.wml thread but I don't think that I found something usefull there... Try updating webwml/english/template/debian from CVS. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: Questions about latest build
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 07:24:29PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 07:21:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: I see in wml_run.log that many files (e.g. www-a-reviser.fr.html) are marked being created under french/international/french and copied into the right location, but they are not there (nor under source directory). Could someone tell me why? Eh, what? They're there. I just repeated a make install and they seem to be there. Really? Cannot find any www-*.fr.html under http://www.debian.org/intl/french/ Okay, something went wrong :) They really are gone now. I think it could be caused by the remove_stale.pl script. I'll check it out. Thanks, I was going crazy ;) Denis
Increase business with wealthy Russian clients
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Re: Bug#82852: DWN index for each year needs to depend on all the issues for that year
[removed Cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 11:54:11PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 10:52:12PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | I just tried to fix this, but it didn't seem to work. My thoughts were: | | */index.$(LANGUAGE).html: %/index.$(LANGUAGE).html: $(wildcard $*/*/index.wml) | $(wildcard $(ENGLISHSRCDIR)/News/weekly/$*/*) \ | $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/header.wml \ | $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/index.wml \ | $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/footer.wml | | This was just a guess based on the info in the make manual, and it didn't | work. Looks like $* can't be used in the DEP-PATTERNS part, only COMMANDS. | Using % instead of $* doesn't work, either. */index.$(LANGUAGE).html: %/index.$(LANGUAGE).html: $(shell find $* -name index.wml) \ $(wildcard $(ENGLISHSRCDIR)/News/weekly/$*/*) \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/header.wml \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/index.wml \ $(TEMPLDIR)/weeklynews/footer.wml Seems to work. (At least the first part -- you might need to fix up the wildcard part as well.) I would think this is a bug in make, but I don't know Make well enough. Tollef, your version is working. Manoj, this looks like a problem with the $(wildcard) function. Am I right? Looks like I should commit my patch about automatic dependencies ;) It does not automagically handle such complicated stuff, but it should be quite trivial to adapt it. I still wonder whether overhead caused by dependency computations is acceptable or not. Denis Index: Makefile.common === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/Makefile.common,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 Makefile.common --- Makefile.common 2001/07/28 09:18:26 1.41 +++ Makefile.common 2001/07/31 22:12:03 @@ -87,8 +87,17 @@ # the rule for every wml file ifndef NOGENERICDEP -%.$(LANGUAGE).html : %.wml $(WMLBASE)/../.wmlrc $(WMLBASE)/.wmlrc \ - $(TEMPLDIR)/template.wml $(TEMPLDIR)/languages.wml $(HTMLDEP) + +DEPS_MAKE_DIRECTORY := $(shell mkdir .deps /dev/null 21 || :) + +-include $(patsubst %.wml,.deps/%.d,$(WMLFILES)) + +.deps/%.d: %.wml + wml -p1 -M $(WMLOPTIONS) \ + -i $(WMLBASE)/../.wmlrc -i $(WMLBASE)/.wmlrc \ + -o $*.$(LANGUAGE).html -o $@ $(F) $@ + +%.$(LANGUAGE).html : %.wml $(WML) $(F) ifeq $(LANGUAGE) en ifeq $(findstring /international/,$(CURDIR)/)
Improve remove_stale.pl
Hi, this patch reads .staleignore files to keep specified files (should have know about this script before ;)) Denis Index: remove_stale.pl === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/remove_stale.pl,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 remove_stale.pl --- remove_stale.pl 2001/07/31 22:39:19 1.7 +++ remove_stale.pl 2001/07/31 23:22:50 @@ -56,6 +56,15 @@ return 0; } + # Read .staleignore if it exists + my @ignores = (); + if (open IGNORE, $directory/.staleignore) + { + @ignores = IGNORE; + chomp(@ignores); + close IGNORE; + } + my @wmlfiles = (); my @htmlfiles = (); while (ENTRIES) @@ -81,7 +90,7 @@ # file, except in the english dir if (-f $direntry $direntry =~ /\.html$/ $direntry !~ /sitemap\..*\.html$/) { - my ($haswml, $incvs) = (0, 0); + my ($haswml, $incvs, $ign) = (0, 0, 0); # Check for WML file. my $source = $direntry; @@ -115,6 +124,17 @@ } unless ($haswml || $incvs) + { + # Check if HTML file is listed in .staleignore + my ($file) = ($direntry =~ m'([^/]+)$'); + my $ignore; + IGNORES: foreach $ignore (@ignores) { + $ign = 1, last IGNORES + if $ignore eq $file; + } + } + + unless ($haswml || $incvs || $ign) { # File has no reason for being here. $count ++;
Re: Problem building wml
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 08:23:46PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:11:08PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: I am having this problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/debian/www/webwml/portuguese/News/weekly] # make 2001/18/index.pt.html cd 2001/18 wml -q -D CUR_YEAR=2001 -o UNDEFuPT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] index.wml ** IPP:Error: file not found: debian/countries.def ** WML:Break: Error in Pass 1 (rc=1). make: ** [2001/18/index.pt.html] Erro 1 I tried to get the english's directory makefile but it didn't suffice.. I read the countries.wml thread but I don't think that I found something usefull there... Try updating webwml/english/template/debian from CVS. The NM pages are getting that problem too. - Craig -- Craig Small VK2XLZ GnuPG:1C1B D893 1418 2AF4 45EE 95CB C76C E5AC 12CA DFA5 Eye-Net Consulting http://www.eye-net.com.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED] MIEEE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]