Re: debian francais?

2001-11-12 Thread Martin Quinson
[I answer to ask on the right list]

Salut, vous avez posé votre question aux webmestres de Debian.
Malheureusement, ils ne parlent pas Francais. Moi, je parle francais, mais
je ne connais pas la réponse à votre question.

Veuillez vous adresser à la liste de diffusion suivante, qui semble la plus
adaptée à votre question :

debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

Cordialement, Mt.


On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:28:03PM -0500, Aurelian Melinte wrote:
 The guy is looking for a book about Debian, written in French. He says he
 cannot find any. He badly needs it.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-www@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:29 PM
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: debian francais?]
 
 
 
 Someone please translate...
 
 - Forwarded message from Mr PHILIPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 
 Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 21:15:54 +0100
 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:55:24 +0100 (Paris, Madrid)
 From: Mr PHILIPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: debian francais?
 
 bonjour,
 
 je trouve pas un seul livre sur la debian en francais, aidez moi svp
 j'en ai vraiment besoin..
 cordialement
 
 
 
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CVS access

2001-11-12 Thread Philipe Gaspar
I'm writing this message asking for a CVS login with write permission, i'm 
translating architecture section on debian's website and sending the wmls to 
the coordinator of transalation Gustavo Noronha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). It make 
easier, so i can send wml directly and updates will be faster.

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All my regards,
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Re: debian-win32 mailing list

2001-11-12 Thread Cesar Mendoza
I added  debian-win32 to the ports part of the configuration file, It
should appear on the ports page some time tomorrow when the cron job
will update the page.

Bye
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:31:32PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Looks like the debian-win32 mailing list has been removed from the
 archives,
 it doesn't appear in http://lists.debian.org/ports.html. Could you fix
 this?
 
 The list, however, is working fine at the moment.
 
 Thanks,
 
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News titles

2001-11-12 Thread Tommi Vainikainen
It seems that newest news item (hispalinux congress) is not yet
visible, altough there has already been new build?

But at least one crical bug seems to be somewhere, as front page in
Finnish shows no news items.  Same seems to be true for German too.
Same problem is in News/2001 page.

-- 
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Re: Usability review of debian.org?

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:35:32AM -0500, Jeff wrote:
 As I find spelling and grammar errors, should I just bug report those, or
 post them here?

Whichever - they'll get fixed quickly either way :)

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Re: website

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 02:15:21PM +0100, newmatrix media | md wrote:
   we are a young internet-team from Germany. To support the idea of free
   software we would be glad to offer you our help by redesigning your
   webpage (surely for free). What do you think? A new face for your site?
  
   Of course we also are able to support you at everything else regarding
   print or screendesign.
  
  What kind of a redesign did you have in mind, exactly?
 
 The redesign can be just as you want. We were thinking
 of a new navigation  visually structured design with
 more optic energy. Give us some of your ideas and we will
 create a proposal design. Together we'll find the solution
 in optimal form.
 
 The same way it goes with your needs in print design.

We basically believe that the content must be the main thing on each page --
the design comes in second. We want it to be done so that everything is
visible in text-only, and also that the blind users don't have too much
trouble with it. That is, nothing that would impact the experience of
lynx/links/w3m users.

Effectively, this means that it needs to be fairly simple.

It sounds like you're into graphic design :) so I have to tell from the
start that you we will not like it if you propose a lot of the stuff to be
done with images -- but if you're willing to adjust to us, we'll adjust to
you, too.

The printable web page should differ so trivially from the normal web page
that they shouldn't be separate :)

(Please keep the CC: to debian-www@lists.debian.org when you reply.)

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AW: website

2001-11-12 Thread newmatrix media | md


As i guess you are using a mysql backend it would be quite easy to keep
the existing design as a text only version and providing another
enhanced version for other users? (only if you want to)
But nevertheless surely the content has to play the major role.
Enhanced does not mean an overload of graphics.
It could e.g. be a version for 800x600 with a maximum graphic load of about
30k at
the start page (where most of it will be cached and reused).

As i said before if you want us to do the job, any guidelines you provide
(e.g. for blind users) will be considered.

best regards,
Michael



We basically believe that the content must be the main thing on each
page --
the design comes in second. We want it to be done so that everything is
visible in text-only, and also that the blind users don't have too much
trouble with it. That is, nothing that would impact the experience of
lynx/links/w3m users.

Effectively, this means that it needs to be fairly simple.

It sounds like you're into graphic design :) so I have to tell from the
start that you we will not like it if you propose a lot of the stuff to be
done with images -- but if you're willing to adjust to us, we'll adjust to
you, too.

The printable web page should differ so trivially from the normal web
page
that they shouldn't be separate :)



Re: AW: website

2001-11-12 Thread peter karlsson
newmatrix media | md:

 It could e.g. be a version for 800x600 with a maximum graphic load of
 about 30k at the start page (where most of it will be cached and
 reused).

Web design mistake number two¹: Designing for a specific screen
resolution. If you design for 800×600, the page will look like shit on
both my handheld at 480×160, and on my desktop at 1280×1024. And when
printed on paper.

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Re: News titles

2001-11-12 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:54:30PM +0200, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
 It seems that newest news item (hispalinux congress) is not yet
 visible, altough there has already been new build?
 
 But at least one crical bug seems to be somewhere, as front page in
 Finnish shows no news items.  Same seems to be true for German too.
 Same problem is in News/2001 page.
 
A mistake with files permissions caused problems with the english/News
files.  I have corrected the problem and everything should be fixed
after the next update.

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Re: translation stats

2001-11-12 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 02:11:12PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
 
 Ask to webmasters ;)
 I guess those stats will be okay when finding why the following line:
 cvs update: ignoring english/News (CVS/Entries missing)
 appears in /org/www.debian.org/cron/cvs_update.log
 
Should be fixed after the next update.

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AW: AW: website

2001-11-12 Thread newmatrix media | md
That the new pages will fit into any internet device goes without
saying.
If using 2 versions you could redirect small res users to 
the other design. If not ... then there will be a site
that fits in all resolutions and print sizes.
Anything is possible.


best regards,
Michael



Re: website

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:35:44PM +0100, newmatrix media | md wrote:
 As i guess you are using a mysql backend

No, we don't, because that would make it harder to have mirrors. Instead, we
generate the static pages (i.e. .html files), but we do it often enough.

Everything that needs do be done dynamically is separated from
www.debian.org and done using CGIs, PHP + postgresql, stuff like that.

 it would be quite easy to keep the existing design as a text only version
 and providing another enhanced version for other users? (only if you want
 to)

Perhaps... it depends on how the enhanced version would look like :)

Could you post a few URLs of the web pages that you've done? Regardless if
they were done in a similar style...

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Re: debian-win32 mailing list

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 09:41:32AM -0600, Cesar Mendoza wrote:
 I added  debian-win32 to the ports part of the configuration file, It
 should appear on the ports page some time tomorrow when the cron job
 will update the page.

Wasn't it already there? Last I did 'updatemail -x' it didn't bitch. (I've
implemented bitching when inconsistencies are found :)

Or wait, maybe this was done after I forwarded Robert's mail to listmaster.

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[cfortin@colba.net: lien]

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin

You know what to do... :)

- Forwarded message from Claude Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:26:59 +0100
From: Claude Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lien
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:15:10 +0100
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.

bonjour,
pourriez-vous me dire s'il existe un script pour bloquer
un lien (sur une page d'accueil web) aux visiteurs qui n'ont pas 
le mot de passe approprié ?
merci de votre aide
claude fortin


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grammar errors on /international/l10n/l10n

2001-11-12 Thread Jeff

There are several errors on /international/l10n/l10.

It currently reads:


This stats are very partial:

it contains only packages based on po files (nls, ie catgets() files are
not here).

It contains only the po files from which the script manage to guess the
language


and


The score is the number of strings translated in all po files.
It may not be the best note, but it's the one used...

This page was generated with data collected on: October 9th, 2001. Before
working on these files, make sure they are uptodate!


I suggest something along the lines of:


This is only a partial list of statistics:

It contains only packages based on po files (nls, ie catgets() files are
not here).

It contains only the po files from which the script manages to guess the
language.



The score is the percentage of strings translated in all po files.
It may not be the best statistic, but it's the one used...

This page was generated with data collected on: October 9th, 2001. Before
working on these files, make sure they are up to date!


-Jeff



Re: [cfortin@colba.net: lien]

2001-11-12 Thread Denis Barbier
 From: Claude Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: lien
 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:15:10 +0100
 X-Priority: 3
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
 
 bonjour,
 pourriez-vous me dire s'il existe un script pour bloquer
 un lien (sur une page d'accueil web) aux visiteurs qui n'ont pas 
 le mot de passe approprié ?

[English version follows]

Bonjour,
si votre question est liée à Debian (ce que rien n'indique) vous devriez la
poser sur la liste de diffusion francophone
   debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
en précisant de quels logiciels il s'agit.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hi,

if your question is related to Debian (which is not obvious), please ask
the French speaking debian-user-french@lists.debian.org mailing list.

Denis



Re: grammar errors on /international/l10n/l10n

2001-11-12 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:19:13PM -0500, Jeff wrote:
 
 There are several errors on /international/l10n/l10.
[...]

Thanks Jeff, your fixes have been applied and will appear after next rebuild.

Denis



Odd error when bookmarking www.debian.org in IE 5.5 and 6.0

2001-11-12 Thread Jeff

There seems to be a very odd error when www.debian.org is bookmarked under
Internet Explorer versions 5.5 and 6.0.

Internet Explorer supports little icons next to websites in the favorites
menu.  Go to www.useit.com and bookmark the site and you'll see a little
red and black NN logo in the favorites menu and on the URL bar.  When
www.debian.org is bookmarked a black icon with green and white squiggles
(for lack of the better description) appears in those places.  It looks
really sloppy.

While this might be a bug in IE, I have verified it on two different
machines and two different versions of IE.  I re-tested www.useit.com on
both machines ant it worked fine.  I think it would be great for
a little swirl to appear their instead, but I suspect that would go
against Debian tradition of maximum browser independence.  Does anybody
know why this might be happening?

-Jeff




Re: CVS access

2001-11-12 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:56:47 -0200
Philipe Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm writing this message asking for a CVS login with write permission, i'm 
 translating architecture section on debian's website and sending the wmls to 
 the coordinator of transalation Gustavo Noronha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). It make 
 easier, so i can send wml directly and updates will be faster.
hello people,

who should we talk to to get Philipe a cvs account? he wants to contribute
to the web page translation and sending me the wmls is quite suboptimal for
both me and he, he wants to permanently contribute and my translation team
needs this very much as I am the only really active member in the team,
error is currently quite busy in his real life as is Carlos Laviola, I think
we'll be able to keep the quality high if Philipe would help me on updating/
translating, is it possible to get this for a non-developer? 

(if you check my last commits you'll see lots of done by: Philipe
 on the ports/ section, he's doing a good job)

[]s!

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Re: website

2001-11-12 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:03:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:35:44PM +0100, newmatrix media | md wrote:
  As i guess you are using a mysql backend
 
 No, we don't, because that would make it harder to have mirrors. Instead, we
 generate the static pages (i.e. .html files), but we do it often enough.

I think 2 gig of website running through a DB would make life a bit
tough not to mention the fun we would have with CVS.

  - Craig
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Re: Odd error when bookmarking www.debian.org in IE 5.5 and 6.0

2001-11-12 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Jeff wrote:
 
 There seems to be a very odd error when www.debian.org is bookmarked under
 Internet Explorer versions 5.5 and 6.0.
 
 Internet Explorer supports little icons next to websites in the favorites
 menu.  Go to www.useit.com and bookmark the site and you'll see a little
 red and black NN logo in the favorites menu and on the URL bar.  When
 www.debian.org is bookmarked a black icon with green and white squiggles
 (for lack of the better description) appears in those places.  It looks
 really sloppy.

You're right!  What is that thing?  It looks very strange indeed.
Perhaps it is the new Debian logo and no-one told us :)

  - Craig
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Bug#119368: www.debian.org: It would be nice to provide search for file on www.debian.org

2001-11-12 Thread Pavel Machek
Package: www.debian.org
Version: 2002
Severity: wishlist


-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Kernel Version: Linux bug 2.4.0 #420 Mon Jan 8 22:54:30 CET 2001 i686 unknown

Hi!

It would be nice to have search capable of searching for files in
packages.

I.e. I ask for Expect.pm, and search on www.debian.org returns
all packages containing this file.

Yes, this is only a wish ;-).
Pavel



Proposal for the redesign of www.debian.org/doc/

2001-11-12 Thread Jeff



Proposal for the redesign of www.debian.org/doc/
---

The current main documentation page does not support the (expected) goal
of the user:

* Find the needed documentation, quickly. *

I feel there are several problems:

Section 1:  The first link on the page goes to the Debian Documentation
Project.  This is not what the users are looking for and does not deserve
top billing.

Section 2:  While some of the desired documentation is linked here,
there's a lot missing.  The paragraph based format is very hard to scan.
An off-site link to the Linux FAQ does not belong here.

Section 3:  The links to the Linux How-To's and Linux Documentation
Project are appropriate.  However, they are the largest and most prominent
links on the page.  This gives the impression that the Debian project
thinks their documentation is not going to be of much help compared to the
standard Linux docs.

Section 4:  While a link to support page makes sense here, an outside link
to debianhelp.org does not.

I would like to propose the following changes:

Section 1: Short anchor link list of the general headings with short
explanations.

Section 2: Link list of the current and active debian documentation broken
up into sections such as user manuals, administrator manuals etc.  Use a
list format with the document title linked in blue and a short
explanation.  The explanations should be from one to four sentences long.
This is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the page.

Section 3: Highlight the Debian Documentation Project.  Note that more
recent or obsolete documentation is available from this page.  Also,
advertise the fact that helping the DDP is one of the best ways for new
users to help Debian.

Section 4: Link list to the Linux how-tos and to the links documentation
project in a format fairly similar to what currently exists.

Section 5: Link to the debian support page.  Move the link to
debianhelp.org to the support page where it belongs.  Note that both the
debian mailing lists and debianhelp.org maintain archives, and that users
should check the archives before posting new messages.

Note:  I'm not sure about the order of the last three sections.
Suggestions anyone?

If people think this is a good idea, someone will need to work up a
proposed page for approval, and the DDP will need to be involved.

Let's discuss this!

-Jeff

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Bug#119368: www.debian.org: It would be nice to provide search for file on www.debian.org

2001-11-12 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:12:35PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
 It would be nice to have search capable of searching for files in
 packages.
 
 I.e. I ask for Expect.pm, and search on www.debian.org returns
 all packages containing this file.
 
 Yes, this is only a wish ;-).

No, it's simply http://packages.debian.org :-)

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debian.org

2001-11-12 Thread Rose Zinc
Hi,

I reviewed debian.org and would like a link from it to my client's web site In 
exchange, I'll post a link from our site to yours.

Exchanging links like this will help bring in more business for both your web 
site and mine. An added benefit is increased search engine traffic because the 
search engines rank sites higher that have a good number of relevant links.

Our Client is a leading provider of collaboration solutions for eBusiness 
application management. They offer a family of user-friendly software products 
that enable teams of people to collaborate in the development and management of 
web sites, eCommerce and eBusiness critical applications.

Please let me know if you are interested in exchanging links. I'll send you 
more details once I hear back from you.

Looking forward to your reply.

Sincerely,
Rose Zinc
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