Re: new front page, take 3

2002-02-09 Thread Rob Bradford 
On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 01:19, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > I removed the help section and replaced it with a big+bold link in the 
> > > quick
> > > links. The news section is getting on my nerves. :) It's really pathetic,
> > > too, those things are hardly news...
> 
> I liked 2.5 better. Sorry.. The loses my favorite part of the recent
> designs, the nice side-by-side install/upgrade.
> 
> -- 
> see shy jo
> 
I agree, this renders horifically on Galeon in X, there is soo much
spacing between the boxes they seems to be jumbled up and a mess.

Yes i know that the fact my browser window is somewhere in the region of
1600x1200 has some importance, but really it looks messy. At large
screen reses. 2.5 was fine.

:=)
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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 11:11:12PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > Quick Links  News
> > > --   ---
> > > --   ---
> > > --
> > > --   Help Debian
> > > --   ---
> > > --   ---
> > 
> > When spread out into a single column, the links are waaay too long to do
> > this nicely, without leaving a load of empty space between News and Help.
> 
> Well, there's always more news you could pad it with for filler, right?

Yes, but it would take a lot more news, and that would be even more
embarrassing, since it would display items as much as several months old...

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the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
Hi,

In my front page sketches I also did one more thing -- replaced the
openlogo-nd-50.jpg with its PNG version. The PNG is better because it
doesn't have the ugly JPEG fuzziness around the image, yet it's five times
smaller (3.9 KB vs. 759 B).

We've been using the PNG on the CD web pages for a while now, and I don't
think anyone has complained about it. It's pretty logical, people who use a
graphical browser don't use prehistoric versions that don't support PNGs,
and people who use a non-graphical browser don't see the image anyway.

Are there any objections to making all the web pages use the PNG version?

BTW I'll think about converting the "debian" text at the top to PNG, too.
Its fuzziness doesn't look nearly as bad as the one on the swirl, but we
would still probably gain a bit on the file size if it's done properly.
Now if only I could figure out how to add transparency with Gimp...

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attention translators

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
Hi,

Translators should update their translations in the
template/debian/links.tags.wml, I've added two new tags for the main page in
there recently.

Also, update/create distrib/index.wml. :)

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Re: packages' download.pl format

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:15:19PM +0100, Jonathan Sambrook wrote:
> My tuppence w'th is:
> 
>   If download.pl used columns, those of us not in the US would have our
>   use of these webpages improved.
> 
>   On every page I have to scroll down to the same site's url. This is
>   annoying when one has to traipse through several .debs' pages and keep
>   seeing all that unused white space to the right of the US links.
> 
>   Move European links to the right of the US and the rest of the world
>   would catch up underneath - at least on my monitor.
> 
>   Worth a look?

I've done this. (How's that for a belated answer. :)

The download.pl format for non-US sites is unchanged since there aren't
nearly as many North American non-US mirrors listed.

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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by noel: webwml/english/devel/wnpp index.wml

2002-02-09 Thread peter karlsson 
Debian WWW CVS:

> Modified files:
>  english/devel/wnpp: index.wml
>
> Log message:
>  added way to use reportbug for wnpp; my permission:
>  http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2002/debian-www-200201/msg00137.html
>  ;)

Hmm, I was looking into translating that but noticed it looks mostly
like you've just done some screendumps on reportbug's output. Could you
please transform it into a proper guide?

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Re: Lack of non-profit partners/memberships listed on web site

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:08:43PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> I notice a conspicuous lack of listings for non-profit organizations
> Debian is allied with, a member of, or in some other way formally
> recognizes as a partner.  The "partners" page is great, but that only
> lists corporate partners who act in a supportive capacity towards
> Debian.  Should this page be expanded in scope to include non-profits?

It now includes OPN.

> - Linux International (or is that just SPI?  but in any event, li.org
>   lists us as a member).
> 
> - LSB

Neither of these are really partners in a way that is described in the
partnership program. However, we do have some links to them, and can add
more...

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread James A. Treacy 
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:04:13PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> 
> Are there any objections to making all the web pages use the PNG version?
> 
Why not start by converting one image to see how it goes?

> BTW I'll think about converting the "debian" text at the top to PNG, too.
> Its fuzziness doesn't look nearly as bad as the one on the swirl, but we
> would still probably gain a bit on the file size if it's done properly.
> Now if only I could figure out how to add transparency with Gimp...
> 
Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
switch off?

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:10:37PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > Are there any objections to making all the web pages use the PNG version?
> 
> Why not start by converting one image to see how it goes?

One image? This is one image, s/openlogo-nd-50.jpg/openlogo-nd-50.png/

> > BTW I'll think about converting the "debian" text at the top to PNG, too.
> > Its fuzziness doesn't look nearly as bad as the one on the swirl, but we
> > would still probably gain a bit on the file size if it's done properly.
> > Now if only I could figure out how to add transparency with Gimp...
> 
> Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
> switch off?

No, it was the lack of support for PNG's transparency in Netscape 4.
But anyway, transparency would be just an added bonus for _these_ images,
because their background is white and the page background is also white.
The transparency is a (small) issue with the navbar images only.

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread James A. Treacy 
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:43:19PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:10:37PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > 
> > Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
> > switch off?
> 
> No, it was the lack of support for PNG's transparency in Netscape 4.

Hmm. Isn't that what I just said?

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 05:34:03PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > > Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
> > > switch off?
> > 
> > No, it was the lack of support for PNG's transparency in Netscape 4.
> 
> Hmm. Isn't that what I just said?

That wasn't relevant to what I was saying :)

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread James Troup 
"James A. Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:43:19PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:10:37PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > > 
> > > Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
> > > switch off?
> > 
> > No, it was the lack of support for PNG's transparency in Netscape 4.
> 
> Hmm. Isn't that what I just said?

It initially read to me like you were suggesting PNG itself lacked
transparency support; perhaps Josip read it the same way.

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Re: the top logo .jpg -> .png?

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin 
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 10:43:38PM +, James Troup wrote:
> > > > Isn't lack of transparency support for png one of the reasons we put the
> > > > switch off?
> > > 
> > > No, it was the lack of support for PNG's transparency in Netscape 4.
> > 
> > Hmm. Isn't that what I just said?
> 
> It initially read to me like you were suggesting PNG itself lacked
> transparency support; perhaps Josip read it the same way.

Oh, yes.

But anyway, the transparency really is irrelevant to the issue at hand :)
so if I don't hear any complaints soon, I'm going to make the switch.

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