Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by barbier: webwml/po po-files/ports.de.po po-files/templa ...

2002-09-12 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Debian WWW CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-11 14:37]:
 Modified files:
   po/po-files: 
   po/template/debian: 

 ... I have a question about po/template/debian/cdimage.wml (which I
noticed due to this commit, but it wasn't changed here):

define-tag dc_faq whitespace=delete
  gettextvoid id=dc_faq /faq/gettext
/define-tag


 Why is the void id=dc_faq / inside the gettext stuff? Is that
needed?  Should we add that to the translations, too?  And, I'm not
really familar with gettext yet, how can I check for fuzzy translations
to not have to check the changelogs?

 Have fun,
Alfie
-- 
DeVries Wann kommt Debian3.0? Jemand n ungefähres oder genaues Datum parat?
@Alfie DeVries: Wenn es fertig ist.
@Falky dwVries wenn es fertig ist
@weasel DeVries: ziemlich genau dann, wenn es fertig ist.-- #debian.de


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Re: Debian-based distros in a new page?

2002-09-12 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 04:33:22PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
 Here are some suggested changes to the file. I only corrected for
 spelling and grammar. I do have two questions though. Should we keep the

Thanks, it was written hastily (sp?)

 historical (not produced anymore) distros? Second, the section on Corel

IMHO yes. It's important to know both what happens and what
happened. We could probably, though, make a new list with Historical
distributions and add them in.
A good example of why we should keep this information is Corel: it
seems they have created a new company to market Corel Linux with a new
name.
My reasons for including it is the same that drives us to keep
updated the project_history document: don't forget what happened before
(so we can learn for the future)

 talks about KDE licensing issues. That doesn't seem relevant to
 this page. Shouldn't it be removed?

No, it's part of Corel's history. I say we keep it there. We could also
talk about the Open Source issues (Corel did not contribute that much to
Debian AFAIK, whileas Progeny still does). IMHO.

Regards

Javi




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Re: Debian-based distros in a new page?

2002-09-12 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

 I removed Javier and Treacy from Cc-list for I know that they are on the
list, but I'm not sure about Raphael.  Gee, I wish everyone would use
Mail-Followup-To: headers ,-)

* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-12 10:21]:
 On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 04:33:22PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
 spelling and grammar. I do have two questions though. Should we keep the
 historical (not produced anymore) distros? Second, the section on Corel
 
   IMHO yes. It's important to know both what happens and what
 happened. We could probably, though, make a new list with Historical
 distributions and add them in.

 I would also say keep 'em.  We also keep the hamm pages, don't we?  The
idea about seperating the active distros from the historical is a good
one, though.

 One thing that bugged me a little bit when I translated the file is the
part about Demolinux.  While translating it I got the impression that I
am writing about Knoppix.  They also changed from a different
distribution to Debian, I think even at the same version number.  Is
this demolinux really not just a rip off from Knoppix?  Is it real, is
it it's own?  While reading that part I can't really believe this

 Well, that said, the part about probably the best distribution to use
if you want to just give Linux a try -- don't get me wrong but I guess
Knoppix is just as good.  Did anyone try both and compared them
somewhere?  I am not really sure if we should propose Demolinux over
Knoppix (or the other way round), IMHO we shouldn't take a position in
that decision.

 Just a thought,
Alfie
-- 
I'd rather listen to Newton than to Mundie. He may have been dead for almost
three hundred years, but despite that he stinks up the room less.
-- Linus Torvalds


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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by barbier: webwml/po po-files/ports.de.po po-files/templa ...

2002-09-12 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:13:57AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 * Debian WWW CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-11 14:37]:
  Modified files:
  po/po-files: 
  po/template/debian: 
 
  ... I have a question about po/template/debian/cdimage.wml (which I
 noticed due to this commit, but it wasn't changed here):
 
 define-tag dc_faq whitespace=delete
   gettextvoid id=dc_faq /faq/gettext
 /define-tag
 
  Why is the void id=dc_faq / inside the gettext stuff? Is that
 needed?  Should we add that to the translations, too?  And, I'm not
 really familar with gettext yet, how can I check for fuzzy translations
 to not have to check the changelogs?

There is a comment in common_translation.wml where this void tag is
defined, it makes msgids unique (dc_faq and faq-bottom have the same
English text) and thus allow translators putting different translations.
Thus it is useless in translations.

There are no fuzzy entries because English text is almost never changed,
but if they were, run:
  $ cd webwml/german/po
  $ for f in *.po; do msgfmt --statistics -o /dev/null $f; done
In PO files, fuzzy entries are marked with a line
  #, fuzzy
and untranslated text means that msgstr is empty.

Text editors often provide some PO mode to help editing these files.

Last but not least, please do not yet modify PO files, or changes will be
lost when I synchronize with .wml source files.

Denis



cruft in prep pages

2002-09-12 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

*** /org/www.debian.org/www/ports/powerpc/inst/prep.en.html
line 178 column 15 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 139
line 178 column 34 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 155
line 178 column 41 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 139
line 178 column 51 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 155
line 178 column 58 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 139
line 178 column 77 - Warning: replacing invalid numeric character reference 155

 Well, I'd like to know what #139; and #155; should be.  Should they
be some special kind of opening and closing quotes?

 Uhm, in my galeon I see them now as  and  -- should they be change to
 and ?  I don't think that it makes much sense to have them in a
strange encoding that isn't really valid but depends on some special
charset/character encoding for the users.

 So long,
Alfie
-- 
I'd rather listen to Newton than to Mundie. He may have been dead for almost
three hundred years, but despite that he stinks up the room less.
-- Linus Torvalds


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Re: cruft in prep pages

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Karlsson
Gerfried Fuchs:

  Well, I'd like to know what #139; and #155; should be.  Should they
 be some special kind of opening and closing quotes?

I think that they are supposed to be #8249; and #8250;, i.e that
someone by mistake have taken windows-1252 codepoints and put them in
a #nnn;.

  Uhm, in my galeon I see them now as  and 

The characters that I think it should be are:

2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
203A SINGLE RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK

-- 
\\//
Peter - I do not read or respond to mail with HTML attachments.
  Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law:
  http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html



klecker upgraded to woody

2002-09-12 Thread James Troup
Moo,

FYI, I upgraded klecker to woody.  As with auric, I did some package
spring cleaning, although with slightly less fascism since I'm not
sure about what ran on klecker.  If I removed something needed for
whatever klecker becomes now, just yell.

The one thing I'm fairly sure broke is the postgresql upgrade, it
whined about unexpected characters in unicode string during the
restore of the search db, so that probably got broke.  If it's not
regeneratable, there's a backup...

Oh, since the search db is inanely large (3Gb?) I moved the postgresql
dir to /org.

-- 
James



Re: klecker upgraded to woody

2002-09-12 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 06:50:05PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
[...]
 FYI, I upgraded klecker to woody.  As with auric, I did some package
 spring cleaning, although with slightly less fascism since I'm not
 sure about what ran on klecker.  If I removed something needed for
 whatever klecker becomes now, just yell.

[only sent to debian-www, please forward to James Troup if needed]

In order to test the gettext stuff, all locales have to be generated.
/org/cvs.debian.org is currently 0700, do not know if this is due to
synchronization or if mode is wrong.

Denis