L10N Problem with website!

2003-11-20 Thread Michael Quinn (Solanon)



Hi,

I am sure it has been mentioned before but incase 
it has not I thought I should mention. I am one of the unfortunates who 
had to purchase my laptop very quickly and did so in Spain and thus have a 
Spanish OS but I like to browse the web in English because it is my native 
language, however your website when selecting a language you wish to view the 
site indoes not keep this setting as default, for example when you click 
on a link it accepts the default language setting of the browser and immediately 
throws back to Spanish (for me). There are many easy ways to get around 
this, I have now changed my browser language to English which works, but I think 
that the user should always be given a choice. It is nice that the default 
language of the browser is detected but I think that that should only be a 
constant on the home page (if even that). Even though my situation 
represents a tiny portion of the people who visit your site I think it is a bad 
idea because my immediate reaction was what the hell?I know that 
this can be changed veryeasilyas I did the same for one ofthe 
sites I developed.

Regards,

Michael


Re: L10N Problem with website!

2003-11-20 Thread Peter Karlsson
Michael Quinn (Solanon):

 however your website when selecting a language you wish to view the
 site in does not keep this setting as default,

No, that is a browser-side setting, please see
URL:http://www.debian.org/intro/cn for more information. The OS
language does not play any part in this, except maybe for being the
default value if you don't change it yourself.

Hope this helps,
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Re: L10N Problem with website!

2003-11-20 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hello,

 but my point was that if one purchases a OS in a particular language
 than the default language (for browser) will be that of the OS,

Yes, of course. It's sensible. But if you don't like the language, all
you have to do is to change it. I have machine with both Norwegian and
English OSes, but I have all of them set to request Swedish pages (and
several other languages I understand).

Doing this selection in the browser rather than on the web site serves
several purposes:

 1. It is universal, you don't need to set up each web site specifically.
 2. It is specific, you can have different browsers set up differently.
 3. It is easy, language selection via requested languages is a
built-in feature in Apache, doing it in another way would require
scripting and cookies.

 I look at the language setting in the browser and it is very nice to
 see where different people come from and if everybody or many people
 changed the language setting in their browser this info would be more
 innacurate than it currently is

You seem to be confusing languages and countries. That's quite common,
but it's still wrong.

 rather than storing that choice as a constant it defaults back by
 looking at your browser setting which is kind of annoying

It can be, at first, but it is better than all other solutions. There's
a fourth point to the list above that it adds: You can select *several*
languages in you wanted list. I have mine set up to request
sv,nb,no,da,nn,en,de (Swedish, Norwegian bokmål, general Norwegian,
Danish, Norwegian nynorsk, English, German, in that order). This means
that when a page is not available in my preferred language it falls
back to another one. If I can't read that, I may manually select the
English version, but that doesn't mean I want all pages in English.

 because not everybody is a web programmer or knows how the site gets
 this data.

That's exactly why we have a help page linked from every page on the
site which is available in at least two languages. If you have any
ideas on how to improve it, feel free to suggest them.

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Re: Who's using Debian?

2003-11-20 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:50:36PM +0100, flow wrote:
 1. Sindominio.net. Tratamos de construir un espacio en Internet que se

[...]

Do you need a translation?

I'm involved in this organization, so I guess I should help :)

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Broken link on mirrors page

2003-11-20 Thread David Robins
http://www.debian.org/mirror/ has a broken link (near the bottom of the page):

http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt

HTH,

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Who's using Debian?

2003-11-20 Thread Steve Phillips

To Whom It May Concern,

Our company is listed on your web pages as being a user of Debian. We would 
like to be removed from this list ASAP. Feel free to contact me to verify this 
action. Please send a note to me when SLE is off the list.


The listing is on the web page at: http://www.debian.org/users/#SiliconLogic


Thank you for helping!

Regards,

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Re: Who's using Debian?

2003-11-20 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:42:44PM -0600, Steve Phillips wrote:
 To Whom It May Concern,
 
 Our company is listed on your web pages as being a user of Debian. We would 
 like to be removed from this list ASAP. Feel free to contact me to verify 
 this action. Please send a note to me when SLE is off the list.
 
 The listing is on the web page at: http://www.debian.org/users/#SiliconLogic
It would be fine to know why did they resign from Debian. It would be
interesting information I guess.

I won't contact with them because I'm not developer, but hopefully
someone will do it.

regards
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Re: [PATCH] Standards and Quirks Modes

2003-11-20 Thread Alexander Winston
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:19, Alexander Winston wrote:
 The Debian Web pages all use the document type declaration '!DOCTYPE
 HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN,' which, while not
 invalid, is considered bad form and fails to trigger standards
 compliance mode in Internet Explorer and Mozilla (Gecko, really)
 derivatives. I have attached a patch that modifies the DOCTYPE to
 include the actual DTD location.
 
 For more information regarding DTD switching and quirks mode, see the
 articles Fix Your Site with the Right DOCTYPE!
 URI:http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ and Mozilla's Quirks
 Mode URI:http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/quirks/.
 
 __
Could I please receive a show of hands or some comments from the Debian
Web site developers?


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