FW: Trassare Web Design Official Vendor

2004-06-18 Thread Samuel Trassare
Hello,
This is my second submission for thisrequest.  I am resubmitting this 
as I
previously neglected to mention that I'd also like the contact e-mail
changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thank you for your patience.


Hello,
I am listed in the US section of the list of Official Debian Vendors.  I
have recently bought a domain name and would like to request that the links
from your page be changed from:

www.cdepot.net/twd/
www.cdepot.net/twd/debian.html

to:

www.trassare.com
www.trassare.com/debian.html

Also I would like my shipping status changed to reflect that I will ship to
the United States only.  Thanks for your help.

Respectfully,
Samuel Trassare

==
Need digital graphics?  Clip art?
Visit Trassare Web Design at
http://www.cdepot.net/twd/




Re: FW: Trassare Web Design Official Vendor

2004-06-18 Thread George Papamichelakis

Samuel Trassare wrote:


Hello,
This is my second submission for thisrequest.  I am resubmitting this 
as I
previously neglected to mention that I'd also like the contact e-mail
changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thank you for your patience.


Hello,
I am listed in the US section of the list of Official Debian Vendors.  I
have recently bought a domain name and would like to request that the links
from your page be changed from:

 


You should send this info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as this page says :
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding   



George





Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

2004-06-18 Thread Kaushal Kurapati





HelloDebian:

This 
is Kaushal Kurapati from Ask Jeeves. I am a Senior Search Product Manager here 
and wanted to speak to you about a crawler blocking issue. Onbugs.debian.org, 
we notice that thereis a"disallow" directive in your 
robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your site. 


As you might know, Ask Jeeves 
search reaches out to 29M users (according to ComScore, afterour ISH acquisition) and in the overall online 
space Ask Jeeves + Excite network is placed #6 in site traffic, right after 
Ebay. Our goal is to provide the most relevant contentto web searchers 
andDebian.org 
being amajoropen source/linux web 
site,we are very interested in having access to the 
relevant content on your site.


We 
would like to request crawler access to your website. Currently our crawlers are 
blocked by you through your Robots.txt file. Please let me know what you need to know from us to unblock our crawlers 
(crawler/agent name etc?).

I 
would greatly appreciate your help in this matter.

Thanks,
Kaushal

---
Kaushal Kurapati
Sr. Product Manager
Ask Jeeves, Inc.
1501 So. Washington Drive, Piscataway, NJ 
08854
[work]: 732-907-3016
[cell]: 914-572-6157
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

2004-06-18 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-18 15:09:30 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On bugs.debian.org, we notice that there is a disallow directive in
your robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your
site.


I cannot speak for Debian, but I suspect this is because generating 
the html version of the bugs site needs more CPU power than they are 
willing to give search engines for free. Maybe if you were to make 
some suitably large donation to cover the cost of adding that power, 
people would reconsider.


[...] Our goal is to provide the most relevant content to web 
searchers

and Debian.org being a major open source/linux web site, we are very
interested in having access to the relevant content on your site.


Why do you feel you should index the entire bugs site yourself? If 
people wish to search for bugs in debian, there are specialised search 
engines for that. Also, you seem to already index lists.debian.org, 
which should contain nearly all the useful content on bugs.debian.org 
AIUI.


By the way, have you read the current site? It says: Debian is a free 
operating system (OS). There is a link there that explains what 
free is, and open source is not an exact synonym. Debian is also 
developing OSes around other kernels than Linux.



Meanwhile, I am very interested in having access to the Ask Jeeves 
site. However, parts of the site have basic accessibility errors, such 
as setting text colours and not setting background colours.


One of your legal notices appears unreasonable. It says You agree not 
to display or use the Ask Jeeves Marks in any manner without Ask 
Jeeves' prior written permission. Why do you claim that I have agreed 
not to use your trademark in any manner, even though it is permitted 
by the UK Trade Marks Act 1994?


I would greatly appreciate your help in these matters.

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RE: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

2004-06-18 Thread Kaushal Kurapati
Thanks for responding.

[you said]:
Why do you feel you should index the entire bugs site yourself? If
people wish to search for bugs in debian, there are specialised search
engines for that. 

[kaushal]: Search engines have pretty much become gateways for people
looking for anything. So people come to our site and look for bugs in
debian say, then we should be able to direct people to your site
content; this broadens your reach effectively, since people could be
searching on search engines right now and not finding anything from your
site. Of course as you said, they can come to your site and look for
stuff, but why shut out the broader option of reaching your site via
search engines.

Thanks for your comments.

Regards,
Kaushal

-Original Message-
From: MJ Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:32 PM
To: Kaushal Kurapati
Cc: debian-www@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

On 2004-06-18 15:09:30 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On bugs.debian.org, we notice that there is a disallow directive in 
 your robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your 
 site.

I cannot speak for Debian, but I suspect this is because generating the
html version of the bugs site needs more CPU power than they are willing
to give search engines for free. Maybe if you were to make some suitably
large donation to cover the cost of adding that power, people would
reconsider.

 [...] Our goal is to provide the most relevant content to web 
 searchers and Debian.org being a major open source/linux web site, we 
 are very interested in having access to the relevant content on your 
 site.

Why do you feel you should index the entire bugs site yourself? If
people wish to search for bugs in debian, there are specialised search
engines for that. Also, you seem to already index lists.debian.org,
which should contain nearly all the useful content on bugs.debian.org
AIUI.

By the way, have you read the current site? It says: Debian is a free
operating system (OS). There is a link there that explains what free
is, and open source is not an exact synonym. Debian is also developing
OSes around other kernels than Linux.


Meanwhile, I am very interested in having access to the Ask Jeeves site.
However, parts of the site have basic accessibility errors, such as
setting text colours and not setting background colours.

One of your legal notices appears unreasonable. It says You agree not
to display or use the Ask Jeeves Marks in any manner without Ask Jeeves'
prior written permission. Why do you claim that I have agreed not to
use your trademark in any manner, even though it is permitted by the UK
Trade Marks Act 1994?

I would greatly appreciate your help in these matters.

--
MJR/slef
My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know.
http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing Can you answer
emails? http://mjr.towers.org.uk/proj/survey/




RE: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

2004-06-18 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-18 18:01:47 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



[...] So people come to our site and look for bugs in
debian say, then we should be able to direct people to your site
content;


You could already do this without crawling bugs.debian.org if you 
wanted, but linking to Debian package bug pages for appropriate 
searches. So, if someone searches for bugs in debian's glibc, you 
offer a link to http://bugs.debian.org/glibc



this broadens your reach effectively, since people could be
searching on search engines right now and not finding anything from 
your

site.


I suspect you already have all the interesting content from 
bugs.debian.org by indexing lists.debian.org.


If people are searching Ask Jeeves for debian bug content not on 
search engines, they probably have more fundamental problems than the 
content being unindexed. ;-)



Of course as you said, they can come to your site and look for
stuff, but why shut out the broader option of reaching your site via
search engines.


Because it seems a lot of pain for little gain, IMO.

I note that you ignored the comments about inability to use Ask Jeeves.

--
MJR/slef
My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know.
http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing
Can you answer emails? http://mjr.towers.org.uk/proj/survey/



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Bug#241006: marked as done (www.debian.org: typos in devel/constitution.wml)

2004-06-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2004-03-30
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

There are some typos in the current version of the Debian Constitution.

Regards,

Matthias Lutz

Index: constitution.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/constitution.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 constitution.wml
--- constitution.wml1 Nov 2003 04:46:21 -   1.14
+++ constitution.wml30 Mar 2004 09:32:38 -
@@ -32,9 +32,9 @@
   LIThe individual Developer working on a particular task;/LI
 
   LIDelegates appointed by the Project Leader for specific
-  tasks./LI
+  tasks;/LI
 
-  LIThe Project Secretary;/LI
+  LIThe Project Secretary./LI
 /OL
 
 PMost of the remainder of this document will outline the powers of
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@
 OL
   LIIf the Project Leader or their Delegate, or the Technical
   Committee, has made a decision, then Developers can override them
-  by passing a resolution to do so; see s4.1(3)./LI
+  by passing a resolution to do so; see sect;4.1(3)./LI
 
   LIIf such a resolution is sponsored by at least 2K Developers,
   or if it is proposed by the Technical Committee, the resolution
@@ -343,8 +343,8 @@
   kept secret, even after the election is finished./LI
 
   LIThe options on the ballot will be those candidates who have
-  nominated themselves and have not yet withdrawn, plus None Of The
-  Above.  If None Of The Above wins the election then the election
+  nominated themselves and have not yet withdrawn, plus None Of The
+  Above.  If None Of The Above wins the election then the election
   procedure is repeated, many times if necessary./LI
 
   LI
@@ -382,7 +382,7 @@
 developers' reference materials, example packages and the behaviour
 of non-experimental package building tools.  (In each case the usual
 maintainer of the relevant software or documentation makes
-decisions initially, however; see 6.3(5).)/P
+decisions initially, however; see sect;6.3(5).)/P
   /LI
 
   LI
@@ -448,7 +448,7 @@
 
   LI
 PThe Chairman can stand in for the Leader, together with the
-Secretary/P
+Secretary./P
 
 PAs detailed in sect;7.1(2), the Chairman of the Technical
 Committee and the Project Secretary may together stand in for the
@@ -641,8 +641,8 @@
 PThe Delegates are appointed by the Project Leader and may be
 replaced by the Leader at the Leader's discretion.  The Project Leader
 may not make the position as a Delegate conditional on particular
-decisions by the Delegate, nor may they override a decision made by a
-Delegate once made./P
+decisions by the Delegate, nor may they override a decision once made by a
+Delegate./P
 
 H38.3. Procedure/H3
 
@@ -741,7 +741,7 @@
   earlier change (again, they must meet 

Re: software patents warning on debian.org

2004-06-18 Thread Matt Kraai
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Hauke Goos-Habermann wrote:
 can someone place a warning about software patents on debian.org? I think 
 it's 
 very important that debian.org shows that these patents would affect the 
 development of OSS and Linux especially. Debian is a free operating system 
 and should have an interest to be free and legal in the future too.

I agree that software patents are important to Debian, but I'm not
sure how best to present this on the web site.  Would you please
make a more concrete proposal (preferably with a patch)?  You
might want to contact debian-project@lists.debian.org as well.

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Re: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

2004-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:31:32PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
 On 2004-06-18 15:09:30 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On bugs.debian.org, we notice that there is a disallow directive in
 your robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your
 site.
 
 I cannot speak for Debian, but I suspect this is because generating 
 the html version of the bugs site needs more CPU power than they are 
 willing to give search engines for free.

Speaking as one of the Debian bug tracking system administrators,
although perhaps not for all of them:

Since almost all of bugs.debian.org is dynamically generated and very
densely hyperlinked (often to various different representations),
crawlers tend to sit there for days on end wandering through it for
relatively little gain. It's not uncommon for one of them to get totally
lost in the list of bugs indexed by submitter, which really isn't
relevant to them, and for one of us to come along some time later and
wonder why somebody's making ten thousand extremely similar queries in
sequence that take a few seconds each.

That sort of thing is why the robots.txt entry is there.

 Maybe if you were to make some suitably large donation to cover the
 cost of adding that power, people would reconsider.

It's mostly an effort/usefulness trade-off.

Cheers,

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