Bug#281015: www.debian.org -- Add Genesi to d.o/partners page
On Friday 19 November 2004 04:59 pm, Matt Kraai wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:38:00PM -0800, Jim Westveer wrote: > > We need to add Genesi to the d.o/partners page > > under Development partners. > > Done. Thanks Matt ! Looks like the genesi.png file did not make it into the /images directory. Just in case I forgot to attach it , here it is again (attached) Ciao, -- Jim Westveer I wish there was a button on my computer for intelligence. There's a button called `brightness', but it doesn't work. :q :w :w! :quit :quit! :help help helpquit quithelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-206-219-0687 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp-key 36129171 genesi.png Description: PNG image
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 10:13:58PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:38:00PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > > For now you may try http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/index12.html > > > with lynx and css browser, to see, how things can be in text version > > > but not visible in css version (Quick site navigation). > > > > Well, that's cool, but now comes the stupid question: > > While at it, why not just change the whole look ? > > If you change everything, people will be confused and probably don't > like it. Please use small steps if at all. > > Please also take into account that the entire design needs to be placed > into the templates and not the content files, that wml is used, that > there may be tools that parse the website (/News/weekly/makemail.pl > comes into my mind, and if you break that, a lot of people will hate > you) And you know what ? Making the code cleaner will *help* website that parse the content. > > 1. That's still available on http://glandium.org/debian/www.html though > >the url might change in the near future since i'm heavily reorganising > >my website. It seems I did that a year ago, according to the dates of > >security alerts. > > The list of translations is unacceptable long due to the vertical list in > lynx. The *list* of translations is a *list*. It therefore has to be a *list*. It just doesn't have its place on every single page. Mike
Re: problems with type of the packages
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:17:24AM +0300, Shtepawski wrote: > there is a problem with package files at debian site.. for example : > > in http://packages.debian.org/testing/comm/ > section > there are two different progs *ifmail* and *ifgate* BUT > their package-URL-link points to the > one location > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ifmail/ifmail_2.14tx8.10.orig.tar.gz > > and i could not find any > pointing to *ifgate* package.. > > > ..and there are many so false-links ...i mean several > "the-same-family" > packages have this trouble locators.. That link points to part of the source package: the ifgate and ifmail binary packages are both built from the ifmail source package, so this is correct. -- Matt
problems with type of the packages
good time to you!
there is a problem with package files at debian site.. for example :
in http://packages.debian.org/testing/comm/
section
there are two different progs *ifmail* and *ifgate* BUT
their package-URL-link points to the
one location
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ifmail/ifmail_2.14tx8.10.orig.tar.gz
and i could not find any
pointing to *ifgate* package..
..and there are many so false-links ...i mean several
"the-same-family"
packages have this trouble locators..
big thanks { !!! } from Russian *xoid and..
good luck to you all
cannot create toolbar images
Howdy, (I had to apply the attached patch to make debbar.pl work at all.) When I try to create toolbar images for the Slovak translation, it fails: ../../english/Pics/debbar.pl -fontregistry iso8859 -fontencoding 2 -words "O Debiane" -o /home/kraai/projects/debian/webwml/slovak/Pics/about.sk.gif debbar.pl: gimp_text: procedural database execution failed at ../../english/Pics/debbar.pl line 30 (DIE) make: *** [about.sk.gif] Error 255 Could someone help me make this work? -- Matt Index: debbar.pl === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Pics/debbar.pl,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 debbar.pl --- debbar.pl 29 Jul 2001 22:25:37 - 1.14 +++ debbar.pl 20 Nov 2004 01:44:42 - @@ -42,9 +42,9 @@ gimp_selection_all($image); gimp_edit_clear($layer); -gimp_rect_select($image, 9, 0, $width, $height, REPLACE, 0, 0); - gimp_ellipse_select($image, (9-($height/2)), 0, $height, $height, ADD, 0, 0, 0); - gimp_ellipse_select($image, ((9+$width) - ($height/2)), 0, $height, $height, ADD, 0,0,0); +gimp_rect_select($image, 9, 0, $width, $height, 'REPLACE', 0, 0); + gimp_ellipse_select($image, (9-($height/2)), 0, $height, $height, 'ADD', 0, 0, 0); + gimp_ellipse_select($image, ((9+$width) - ($height/2)), 0, $height, $height, 'ADD', 0,0,0); gimp_bucket_fill($layer, BG_BUCKET_FILL, NORMAL_MODE, 100, 0, 0, 5, 5); gimp_selection_none($image);
Re: CVS webwml/english/devel/buildd
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 10:17:39PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > CVS User jfs wrote: > > +There are some statistics availabe for the autobuilder network at > > +http://buildd.debian.org/stats/";>the buildd stats page. > > +Additional statistics are provided (for some architectures) by > > +Ingo Juergensmann at http://www.buildd.net/";>buildd.net. > > Didn't he just closed the site, pulling a Perens? > It's a bit uncool linking to it from www.debian.org, no? I've removed it. -- Matt
Bug#281015: marked as done (www.debian.org -- Add Genesi to d.o/partners page)
Your message dated Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:59:45 -0800 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#281015: www.debian.org -- Add Genesi to d.o/partners page has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 13 Nov 2004 04:38:56 + >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 12 20:38:55 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from (rac3.netnw.com) [63.96.250.100] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1CSpgd-0004Jd-00; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:38:55 -0800 Received: from fysm.netnw.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [24.18.197.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by rac3.netnw.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-15) with ESMTP id iAD4c49M020781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:38:04 -0800 From: Jim Westveer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: www.debian.org -- Add Genesi to d.o/partners page Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:38:00 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_r+YlBvjROobPR7o" Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_44,HAS_PACKAGE, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: --Boundary-00=_r+YlBvjROobPR7o Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Package: www.debian.org Version: ? RE: Add Genesi to d.o/partners page We need to add Genesi to the d.o/partners page under Development partners. Attached is a suable .png graphic and the text should read: http://www.genesi.lu";> Genesi has provided many http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php";> PowerPC based Open Desktop Workstations to Debian, and Genesi employs developers to work on the Debian PowerPC port. For information about Genesi's involvement in the Linux Open Source community, please see http://www.PPCZone.org";>www.PPCZone.org Genesi is a leading provider of Freescale and IBM PowerPC based computing products. Genesi's http://www.pegasosppc.com";>PegasosPPC MicroATX computer is designed to bring PowerPC technology flexibility and efficiency to the desktop, low-end server and pervasive market segments at an affordable price. The Open Desktop Workstation ships with Debian pre-installed. tnx -- Jim Westveer I wish there was a button on my computer for intelligence. There's a button called `brightness', but it doesn't work. :q :w :w! :quit :quit! :help help helpquit quithelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-206-219-0687 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp-key 36129171 --Boundary-00=_r+YlBvjROobPR7o Content-Type: image/png; name="genesi.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="genesi.png" iVBORw0KGgoNSUhEUgAAAJgAAABkCAIAAAD18G4UCXBIWXMAAAsSAAALEgHS3X78AAAW kElEQVR42u1deXCc1ZHvfu9931waaXRLsY1xjA34wgmLzZGAc2wgx19sQhJMQi4gwMImhFSo4ILa bFGV3aVSRaVYJziEhF1gkwqXuUPYItzJpoLtNcbYxAcJNrIky9JIc33vde8fb/Tpm9HMaEYZUJhR W+WSvuN9/fr3db/ufv3eh8wM8/TuJzHXDMxTfWgeyAaheSAbhOaBbBCaB7JBaB7IBiE11wy8+4iZ EbFC2IaI9rIKjSAiMyDWjStsnjhyCgBmKOo0AjAAIgqE+gr4naImArJeZF+ITFZrTYj2FbCEzOw4 IuQqAMhoyhme/kowgESMOcK2Uy+umsi05jXS0OjOw2wIEQMQABPLiNO6os++2RVEbIiVxG/d9PRj v92faA0Zk29FSRweSV/8D6v++ZtnAcA1zxze/PJwIio1Td0rEcZydHp/9IXPLmUAqB+WTQSkJdJ0 5DevUUajwCkcEckzoe6W1hV9MzfBAACptDeazAoEQz6QYjSZTWe1/TPjEWT0uERNUzZPIHCOUjlj m6mjBW86IBFBxUKkJIiAGBGEZ2TUrb4dKdGRQimBUxoplBLSb1YgCEQBQbwQAQSiqP8Y3HRAAgMT MXGRLJkYanEXmMH+CzZc4EVx/rLCh5c4WBeajyMD9G52+5pPIwGAAZiZg/4mAAHXgiQzEDER+2Mk IhAxT42IDPYRgTESBALV9JxqqYnCDz+O1MnsNOuGAIxCqHjIXllW1ggAgIhHjqZSaS1s3Jk/hUTU EnO7EhEAGEzrsayRiEUtMUBI4oIWh5mhfvFHEwHZ2NRMppUBEGZ8cRHRS+VSQxMoROGwiWQonIiE 28IAcHjcG/dIYuEVAAywKO66EqnigwTifEJgtjRpFStcQppQ4b7fvP7Al34R7W4hbfxT0pHjA8mz N330zG+dDQBfffIvj+0+JiPKBIZARGDNO7584uquMDPIimFGHVGE5gKyekJAgUIi8JRXjwJRiCnh I4DA/P8F987NUDUfftRAf8u59Hkgy1A50LDgN6zupneA5k1rKWImbUgTBRPeAKRpKkwkBhs1BpM7 WBg1voM0D2QJEo4Mt0VCraEgkEJJndUqlJdYxBUQkvFwweSGQEjJyUzqO6udTRRH+gkBLq80KBAR jWdyKQ+DwT4AIDKxCisnpAAgpUlP
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
Hi joey! Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 22:13 Uhr schrieb Martin Schulze: The list of translations is unacceptable long due to the vertical list in lynx. There is another not fully revised version of the support page, making a normal ist out of it for non-css browsers: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/support-debian2-2.html Here I have changed the header a bit, too, using only one gif for the blue buttons (which is quite a difficult problem as it seems). For the WML and templates: To see, what has to be done, I need some help on getting an Idea how to patch or what has to be changed as I am not a DD. I do not think, it is impossible. greetings Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 03:34 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey: Tables are valid anywhere. Their use for layout is just not recommended, but that applies to transitional and strict. Answered to Frank already: Ther is a difference between just tables and _the_ tables - which are not valid HTML 4.01 strict. I think it's much more important to revise the whole html code before hand, it will prevent to have to do the css work twice. The process of moving to clean code will take time anyways, and cannot be done, IMHO, You make the second step first: reduced code is much easier to change, and CSS reduces code. without having a staging area for test, i.e. not putting changes online before everything is done. The header for example goes the same way everywhere. It is easy to test and incluse css there, first only the header declarations used. Next step could be the footer, which you want to remove mostly. And when i'm talking clean code, I don't only imply using fluid, table-less design, but much more work, being having semantic html structure, and no more than what is semantically needed. You cannot remove tables without having a css for it. Or do you want to make a text site as for lynx before moving css? To remove the tables, which have the most ugly code, you have to have css. Or otherwise you will have to change the table code as a whole, which is much more work than changing a css file. The only thing that causes user agents (well, _a_ user agent, being IE6) to go to quirks mode when xhtml is used is the presence of the xml declaration on top of the file, which is anyway not a MUST. Does lynx support xhtml quite good, even in Debian stable? Do screen readers? Going to xhtml is a quite different discussion. It is not a must to use css. And if you want to discuss and change to before having CSS, nothing will ever happen, I think. It will take more time than a new debian release. Another think: XHTML and HTML have different syntax for things like and , so you cannot change the pages step by step, You will have to do it at once and change the header and the delivery (not als text/html only) at the same time. There are a lot of reasons as to why to go to xhtml instead html, including the fact that it's much easier to parse xml than sgml for later uses. If it so easy, why does w3c validator not fully support validation yet? The language selection for those, wanting to change to another language manually makes about 2.5 k for the support page. I do not think, that this is much to care. But that is another discussion and has nothing to do with moving to css. Language selection + Mirror selection is between 5 and 6KB. On a 16KB page (such as debian's home page) it is more than negligible. for the main support page, which has much translations, it is about 2.5 k, which is much less as the home page. I assume, the average size is not more than on the support page. And the addional size is reduced, if css is used instead of tables for the header. The list is a part of being Debian user friendly. But that too is another discussion and removing it independent from using CSS. Original size of support page: 15225 I reduced it to between 14424 and 13360 byte only by using css. But as that, you want to remove is nothing lelated to CSS, it would be better to open your own thread on removing the language list from pages. greetings Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org
Re: CVS webwml/english/devel/buildd
CVS User jfs wrote: > +There are some statistics availabe for the autobuilder network at > +http://buildd.debian.org/stats/";>the buildd stats page. > +Additional statistics are provided (for some architectures) by > +Ingo Juergensmann at http://www.buildd.net/";>buildd.net. Didn't he just closed the site, pulling a Perens? It's a bit uncool linking to it from www.debian.org, no? Regards, Joey -- MIME - broken solution for a broken design. -- Ralf Baechle Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:38:00PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > For now you may try http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/index12.html > > with lynx and css browser, to see, how things can be in text version > > but not visible in css version (Quick site navigation). > > Well, that's cool, but now comes the stupid question: > While at it, why not just change the whole look ? If you change everything, people will be confused and probably don't like it. Please use small steps if at all. Please also take into account that the entire design needs to be placed into the templates and not the content files, that wml is used, that there may be tools that parse the website (/News/weekly/makemail.pl comes into my mind, and if you break that, a lot of people will hate you) > 1. That's still available on http://glandium.org/debian/www.html though >the url might change in the near future since i'm heavily reorganising >my website. It seems I did that a year ago, according to the dates of >security alerts. The list of translations is unacceptable long due to the vertical list in lynx. Regards, Joey -- MIME - broken solution for a broken design. -- Ralf Baechle
Bug#100188: paragonite
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Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 06:07:55PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 01:00 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: > > >This sentence is either false or I misunderstand it... HTML 4 strict > >has tables, too ;) > > Yes, it has. I wrote _the_ tables and not tables. So it was obviously the latter ;) And of course you're right that the current HTML is far away from validating as strict. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www: http://www.djpig.de/
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 01:00 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This sentence is either false or I misunderstand it... HTML 4 strict has tables, too ;) Yes, it has. I wrote _the_ tables and not tables. You may ask the validator yourself to see, what would be wrong with current html code, if it was strict DOCTYPE. greetings Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org
Re: No news for this year?
Luk Claes wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olaf van der Spek wrote: | Hi, | | At the dutch (NL) version of http://www.debian.org/News/, it says: "Geen | items voor dit jaar." (no items for this year). | The english version works fine. I cannot reproduce this (http://www.debian.org/News/index.nl.html). That's because it was fixed already by Frank Lichtenheld. Cheers Luk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBnaKC5UTeB5t8Mo0RAr87AJ9Qx9UJ7eWYLOR7mZmrhKUw0YFCWACgvKLJ J0N3n5AHXoYAvFAGIQFNzYo= =i7bV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Olaf van der Spek http://xccu.sf.net/
Re: No news for this year?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olaf van der Spek wrote: | Hi, | | At the dutch (NL) version of http://www.debian.org/News/, it says: "Geen | items voor dit jaar." (no items for this year). | The english version works fine. I cannot reproduce this (http://www.debian.org/News/index.nl.html). Cheers Luk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBnaKC5UTeB5t8Mo0RAr87AJ9Qx9UJ7eWYLOR7mZmrhKUw0YFCWACgvKLJ J0N3n5AHXoYAvFAGIQFNzYo= =i7bV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: Changes in Apache configuration on gluck broke the lessoften script
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 07:53:08AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 07:18:06PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 08:43:31PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > Could you please also redirect the error message to the log file, as is > > > done with other echo commands? > > > > Are you sure? The echo commands that are redirected to lessoften.log > > are all progress indicators. The other error also goes to standard > > output. > > But nobody reads the standard output of this script, whereas log file > is available online and problems can be diagnosed more easily. Ah. I've redirected the messages. -- Matt
