Error question on Bugs, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage

I got this error when trying to compile the local tree:

make[1]: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Target 
»../../english/Bugs/pseudo-packages.description«,

  benötigt von »pseudo-packages.en.html«, zu erstellen.  Schluss.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/bilder/dwww/webwml/english/Bugs'
make: [Bugs] Fehler 2 (ignoriert)

Do I have to care about that?

greetings

Jutta

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Re: Dead link

2004-11-21 Thread Matt Kraai
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 02:01:18PM +0100, Marc MAURICE wrote:
> From the php4 package page :
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/php4
> 
> Dead link to :
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php4/php4_4.3.9-1/php4.copyright

It works for me.  I guess Frank already fixed it.

-- 
Matt



Proofread request for patch which fixes double words

2004-11-21 Thread Jens Seidel
Hi all,

I applied a small script on www.debian.org and found again many many
typos where words occur twice. I attached attached a patch which fixes
these (for english/ only!!).

I'm not sure about the following which is NOT included in my patch.
Please check:

./News/1998/19980522a.wml:packages have have been allowed into the distribution 
as long as they were
./security/1998/19981126.wml:If you have have installed fsp and a FTP 
daemon, and do not want to have
./vote/2002/platforms/raphael.wml:that just have have to be checked (by the 
main team).

The patch contains also changes to devel/constitution* and
devel/secretary. Please confirm that it's OK to touch these files.
(PS: The fonts in the last mentioned file look strange and seem to
differ from other web pages, is this wanted!?)

It would be nice if someone could proofread this patch. I remember that
I "improved" once a package documentation in a similar way where I was
wrong (English grammer!).

Isn't it surprising how many typos can still be found in English pages?

Jens
Index: Bugs/Access.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/Access.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 Access.wml
--- Bugs/Access.wml 22 Jun 2004 11:54:48 -  1.17
+++ Bugs/Access.wml 21 Nov 2004 22:36:02 -
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
 Each message received at or sent by the bug processing system is
 logged and made available in a number of ways.
 
-The primary access method is to to use the web pages. See the
+The primary access method is to use the web pages. See the
 forms on the main BTS page at
 http://bugs.debian.org/
 
Index: News/1998/19981214d.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/News/1998/19981214d.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 19981214d.wml
--- News/1998/19981214d.wml 13 Aug 1999 21:09:50 -  1.3
+++ News/1998/19981214d.wml 21 Nov 2004 22:36:02 -
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 http://linuxtoday.com and Corel Computer 
 is now available online at http://linuxtoday.com/stories/1540.html";>
 http://linuxtoday.com/stories/1540.html.  The 
-interview covers distribution matters as well as as interfaces and other 
+interview covers distribution matters as well as interfaces and other 
 issues.  Corel's hopes for Debian's ARM Port 
 http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/";>
 http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ are also mentioned- they hope 'advanced
Index: News/1999/19990727.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/News/1999/19990727.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 19990727.wml
--- News/1999/19990727.wml  19 Feb 2004 18:57:55 -  1.7
+++ News/1999/19990727.wml  21 Nov 2004 22:36:02 -
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
 Debian.  Last week a correspondent from ap contacted Debian project
 member Martin Schulze and compiled two press messages.
 
-Since they are written in German, we're giving a short english
+Since they are written in German, we're giving a short English
 summary.
 
 Stichwort: Debian
Index: News/weekly/1999/18/index.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/News/weekly/1999/18/index.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 index.wml
--- News/weekly/1999/18/index.wml   16 Feb 2004 21:29:24 -  1.18
+++ News/weekly/1999/18/index.wml   21 Nov 2004 22:36:03 -
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@
 
 
 Should clients that can communicate only with non-free servers be placed in
-contrib? James Troup raised this very contentious issue issue when he
+contrib? James Troup raised this very contentious issue when he
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy-9905/msg4.html";>
 posted about his reason for rejecting the ICQ client TiK from Incoming. 
 One major objection is that this would imply that a program that parses 
Index: News/weekly/1999/3/index.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/News/weekly/1999/3/index.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -r1.19 index.wml
--- News/weekly/1999/3/index.wml6 Jan 2002 17:25:38 -   1.19
+++ News/weekly/1999/3/index.wml21 Nov 2004 22:36:03 -
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
 
 
 Debian Hurd is the only port people who own just i386 hardware can work
-on. The Hurd port is in that interesting point it its development where it's
+on. The Hurd port is in that interesting point in its development where it's
 right on the edge of being usable. If you're interested in dealing with this 
 up-and-coming port, there's a list of
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd-9901/msg00101.html";>
Index: News/weekly/1999/36/index.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/News/weekly/1999/36/index.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -r1.21 index.wml
--- News/weekly/1999/36/index.wml  

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 09:10:59PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
[...]
> I fetched the cvs tree and made local changes. Takes a while for a make 
> on my local computer. As I am said there will be enough space on our 
> server, I may put the results online.
> 
> Currently I am making only those changes, that a necessary for the 
> header and footer going css. It is not quite clean and If you like 
> that, I would need some help to find out, where those things are to 
> change, I did not find the source for.
>
> If there are scripts, which are not in the source tree and not run by 
> make or make install, I'll surely will not notice, if they fail. 
> Another thing is, that I am not sure, that I can built languages like 
> Chinese on Debian stable.

IMO building only English pages is fine.

Some pages need data fetched from scripts found in
  http://cvs.debian.org/cron/?cvsroot=webwml
Scripts under parts/ are run before every build. lessoften only daily.
So do not be afraid if some pages do not build cleanly, and do not
lose your time trying to fix them, it isn't worth.

> If someone wants to have a look later (not online yet): The pages will 
> be at
> 
> http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/
> screenshots will be at
> http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/screenshots/
> 
> hope I get something ready tonight.

Great, please send here your patches against english/template/debian
when they are ready.

I reviewed all *.pl files under webwml, and english/News/weekly/makemail.pl
is the only script parsing generated HTML files, so we have to check
that your changes do not break this script.

We must also check that these changes do not break nm.debian.org,
it include files from the webwml tree.

Denis



Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage


Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 17:39 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier:


HTML pages are generated from templates and some scripts, as described
in http://www.debian.org/devel/website/
Modifying the generated HTML pages to replace tables by CSS is quite
trivial,


I fetched the cvs tree and made local changes. Takes a while for a make 
on my local computer. As I am said there will be enough space on our 
server, I may put the results online.


Currently I am making only those changes, that a necessary for the 
header and footer going css. It is not quite clean and If you like 
that, I would need some help to find out, where those things are to 
change, I did not find the source for.


If there are scripts, which are not in the source tree and not run by 
make or make install, I'll surely will not notice, if they fail. 
Another thing is, that I am not sure, that I can built languages like 
Chinese on Debian stable.


If someone wants to have a look later (not online yet): The pages will 
be at


http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/
screenshots will be at
http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/screenshots/

hope I get something ready tonight.

cu

Jutta

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Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 02:56:33AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
[...]
> My question again: Is it accaptable for you, what I have schown on the 
> examples?
> 
> One of the examples has the same look as current pages on graphical 
> browsers, but will have _no_ lists in _one_ line for test browsers, 
> which is assumed.

The main navbar is currently not a list, why did you turn it into ?
If you keep it as is, it is certainly possible to have layout unmodified
for text browsers.

[...]
> In the cvs tree, I have found things about xhtml. That makes me ask: 
> How will the move work, as  is valid in HTML transitional and 
> strict but not in xhtml. So all tags without an endtag have to be 
> replaced at once, when moving to xhtml. In addition the page delivery 
> has not to be text/html only. Beside that IE has problems with correct 
> mime type for xhtml (which I do not carte much) that gives a lot of 
> problems. Is moving to xhtml insead of html strict such an advantage, 
> that debian people do not care these problems? xhtml does not make a 
> differenc to css usage as far as I know, though.

Your last sentence is the key point; XHTML has nothing to do with the
subject of this thread, so do not discuss this issue here and let us
focus on CSS.

HTML pages are generated from templates and some scripts, as described
in http://www.debian.org/devel/website/
Modifying the generated HTML pages to replace tables by CSS is quite
trivial, but as you notice the main problem is to have these changes
accepted.  If you have access to different browsers, you may put
screenshots online to show that rendering is identical.

Martin Schulze had a valid argument, some scripts are parsing HTML
or source files.  It is likely that they won't notice the move to CSS,
and I will check later that this is indeed the case.

Denis



Remove my listing from vendor list

2004-11-21 Thread Richard Osborne
Dear Debian List Maintainer:

Please remove my listing from your list of Venors.

Thanks,

Richard Osborne -- Linux Distributions 

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Re: Debian for ARM

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andrew Lyall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-21 10:35]:
> I am looking for the Debian for ARM disribution, i.e. isos, but all
> I can find on the web page is documentation. can you send me a link?

You can find netinst images at
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/



Dead link

2004-11-21 Thread Marc MAURICE

From the php4 package page :
http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/php4

Dead link to :
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php4/php4_4.3.9-1/php4.copyright



Re: xhtml, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 01:23:26PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> 
> Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey:
> 
> >It is wrong. xhtml 1.0 pages SHOULD be served as application/xhtml+xml
> >but can be served as text/html for compatibility purpose.
> 
> Can you point me to the source, where it says that they may be served 
> without application/xhtml+xml without any problems?

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#summary

Note that XHTML 1.0 (HTML compatible) stands for XHTML following the
HTML compatibility guidelines from
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#guidelines , which is anyways a good thing
to follow not to hurt old browsers.

Mike



xhtml, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage


Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey:


It is wrong. xhtml 1.0 pages SHOULD be served as application/xhtml+xml
but can be served as text/html for compatibility purpose.


Can you point me to the source, where it says that they may be served 
without application/xhtml+xml without any problems?


greetings

Jutta

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Debian for ARM

2004-11-21 Thread Andrew Lyall
I am looking for the Debian for ARM disribution, i.e. isos, but all I 
can find on the web page is documentation. can you send me a link? Thanks


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