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Hi mom & dad

I wanted to write and thank you for that De"gree program you told me about, i 
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I got my Maste"rs in 2 weeks ;]. Mom tell cousin Sam to call that number you 
gave me, this program really 
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Here is the # 1"2"0"6-337-1168 just tell him to call and leave a message, they 
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Re: i writing Debian and postfix mta howto

[Ozgur Karatas]

Hello Jens,
yes u guessed it right. turkish :). thanks for your help. i guess
debian-www will take the mail and help.
best regards.

> Hi Ozgur,
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:01:42PM +0300, Ozgur Karatas wrote:
>> I prepared a document. I TOLD told how Debian 3.1 (sarge) install will
>> be
>> used in the document. Can you put this to the debian doc web sites?
>
> Great!
>
> I added debian-www and the Turkish translation coordinator. I hope I
> guessed the language right.
>
> Çeviri, maybe it's a good idea to add this document (or a link to it)
> to the Turkish site?
>
>> Document:
>> http://www.iucoders.com/attachments/DebianGNULinuxilePostfixKurulumu.pdf
>> http://www.olympos.org/article/articleview/1861/1/10/debian_gnulinux_ile_postfix_posta_sunucusu_kurulumu
>>
>>
>>
>>  ,''`.  Ozgur Karatas
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>
> PS: I suggest to reply to debian-www and debian-doc only.
>
> Jens


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Re: German translation of the Debian manifesto

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Jens Seidel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.26.2124 +0200]:
> I'm not sure about the past but it is already translated since
> 2006/02/15. It's available on
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.de.html
> :-(

So it's my fault because we were done in Decembre and I simply
didn't do anything. :/

> > We thought you might want to add it to Debian's webpages and thus he
> > released it to the public domain. Please find the file attached.
> 
> Thanks, let's use the best of both versions.

Okay, you guys decide. :)

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Re: i writing Debian and postfix mta howto

[Jens Seidel]

Hi Ozgur,

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:01:42PM +0300, Ozgur Karatas wrote:
> I prepared a document. I TOLD told how Debian 3.1 (sarge) install will be
> used in the document. Can you put this to the debian doc web sites?

Great!

I added debian-www and the Turkish translation coordinator. I hope I
guessed the language right.

Çeviri, maybe it's a good idea to add this document (or a link to it)
to the Turkish site?

> Document:
> http://www.iucoders.com/attachments/DebianGNULinuxilePostfixKurulumu.pdf
> http://www.olympos.org/article/articleview/1861/1/10/debian_gnulinux_ile_postfix_posta_sunucusu_kurulumu
> 
> 
> 
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PS: I suggest to reply to debian-www and debian-doc only.

Jens


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Re: German translation of the Debian manifesto

[Jens Seidel]

Hi Martin,

On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:53:22PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> when we were translating my book to German, my lector Franz Mayer
> translated the Debian manifesto, which had not been translated then.

I'm not sure about the past but it is already translated since
2006/02/15. It's available on
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.de.html
:-(

What now?

> We thought you might want to add it to Debian's webpages and thus he
> released it to the public domain. Please find the file attached.

Thanks, let's use the best of both versions.

Jens


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Re: RSS Feed for DWN?

[Martin Schulze]

MJ Ray wrote:
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Two examples are here:
> > http://people.debian.org/~joey/dwn.en.rdf
> > http://people.debian.org/~joey/dwn.de.rdf
> 
> These are 404 Not Found at this time.

The RDF files are now generated automatically if there is a version
of the current issue available in that particular language and the
RDF file will be installed automatically in the web directory as well.

They're now at:

http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.de.rdf
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.en.rdf
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.fr.rdf
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.it.rdf
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.zh.rdf

The Portuguese version will follow in about three hours.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:16:11PM +0200, kailander wrote:
> Hi

Hi,

> Sorry if I made you angry.

Though of course I can't speak for anyone but myself, I don't think you
did in fact make anyone angry. It's just that you're not the first one
to suggest changes which do not fit with our way of doing things, and
sometimes having to repeat the same arguments over and over again
becomes tiresome.

We have a certain philosophy about our website, and it is different from
what is commonly accepted to be best practice (mainly because we care
less about Internet Explorer than would be the case for
commercially-developed websites, and because we care more about correct
HTML/CSS use than seems to be the case for most of those websites).

Within that philosophy, however, all suggestions are welcome; and if
they make sense, there is no particular reason why any suggested change
would be rejected.

> I really appreciate all the efforts that you make to maintain this
> website, but i was just enthusiastic about this you know.

So are we :-)

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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[Kaare Olsen]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:55:02 +0200
NAGY Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think that the current solution is typographically a mess. It's not just
> the mixed upper and lower cased words, it's the bulk list of words written
> in different alphabets.  I propose to insert separators (bullets or bars)
> between the language names.

That seems like a good idea.

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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[Richard Atterer]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 11:55:54AM +0200, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> Am 24.06.2006 um 11:29 schrieb Richard Atterer:
> >   :link:hover { color: #F000FF; }
> >   :visited:hover { color: #800080; }
> 
> I reverted that change, becaus it causes other problems. nad the  
> first form we are using now is the suggested way to do things.

Out of interest, what kinds of problems does it cause?

Cheers,

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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[kailander]

Jutta Wrage wrote:

> If you suggest changes, please note, that we will not do any changes,  that 
> make the pages not validate any longer. If IE does not display  the HTML 
> corectly, please submit a bug report to the browser  manufacturer.

I completely agree with you, i don't even use IE.

>I think that the current solution is typographically a mess. It's not just
>the mixed upper and lower cased words, it's the bulk list of words written
>in different alphabets.
>
Here is the reply of  Richard Atterrer

>No. This has been discussed before on the list - each word in that area of 
>the page is the translation of the respective language name into that 
>language. With some languages (e.g. English), languages are always written 
>with a capital letter, but not in others.
>
For me it sounds logical, but i am still not convinced by the usage of capital 
letters for certain languages.

> Well, if a feature like #outer>#inner in the css doesn't work in  iexplore, 
> doesn't it mean that it is a browser specific "extension" ?
>
> No. It is valid CSS and any browser should know, what it means. If  not, we 
> can find another valid way, maybe.

Well i suggested for that simply to use :

#footer{border-top: 1px solid #BFC3DC;}

I think it is funny to discuss such things, don't you agree ? Please tell me if 
i should change the way i write, thanks :-)

Re: Suggestions For The Website

[kailander]

I agree with you Viktor

Separators like · are very aesthetic



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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[kailander]

Please could you explain why 
>http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/ redirect.pl">
>  
>  
>  Select a server near you 
Is not valid HTML
I am sure its valid xhtml, and since you want to smoothly change to xhtml, and 
follow all the recommendations, whats the problem?


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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[NAGY Viktor]

On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 02:55:22AM +0200, Kaare Olsen wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2006 23:26:46 +0200
> kailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > however, if you follow the mentioned rule, i wanted to say that it is 
> > applicable only if you write each language in separate sentence written in 
> > that language.
> 
> I'm not aware of any cross-language grammar rule convering this situation (or 
> any situation, for that matter).
> 
> Our solution to the problem seems like a reasonable compromise.  If the 
> listed languages were all in upper or lower case, I'm certain someone else 
> would complain, as you can't satisfy everyone.

I think that the current solution is typographically a mess. It's not just
the mixed upper and lower cased words, it's the bulk list of words written
in different alphabets.  I propose to insert separators (bullets or bars)
between the language names.

Viktor


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Re: Suggestions For The Website

[Jutta Wrage]

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Am 24.06.2006 um 23:26 schrieb kailander:

Now:


http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/redirect.pl";>






Valid HTML

Your suggestion:

http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/ 
redirect.pl">

  
  
  Select a server near you


Not valid HTML.

input elements that are hidden should be directly inside the form,  
not inside an element of the form

input tag should end with " /" like that 


The page header says "HTML 4.01" which uses exactly our code.

If you suggest changes, please note, that we will not do any changes,  
that make the pages not validate any longer. If IE does not display  
the HTML corectly, please submit a bug report to the browser  
manufacturer.




just like  and 
i suggest to put   instead of blank space


Her the spaces are not necessary at all. It depends on browsers, how  
they display it. a   increases the pages size for nothing and  
makes code more unreadable in my eyes.






Unfortunately Jutta, who has been doing most of the CSS changes  
lately,

doesn't test on MSIE at all. :-/


That is not correct completely any longer. And beside that I test in  
many other browsers, not mentioned here. Most important rendering  
engines are KHTML and Gecko engine as they are used on Unix and Linux  
machines most times. Beside that, it is important that the web pages  
display fine in Lynx and other common text browsers. Whatever changes  
are done, these browsers have to work fine.


This means: Finding a workaround for IE (I suggested to include the  
IE7 Javascript for repairing pages for IE), cannot mean breaking  
pages for other browsers at all. So testing a change in IE means ti  
have a look, if pages are still valid and work in all other browsers.


Blindly applying changes suggested by somebody will break the pages.  
In the case above we will get 22,000 validation errors.



But if i tested it on both of them, why dont you make the necessary  
changes ?

Besides, you wrote on the "How is www.debian.org made" the following :


Hope you understand now.


How not to help

[Q] I want to put fancy web feature into www.debian.org, may I?



[A] No. We want www.debian.org to be as accessible as possible, so

* no browser specific "extensions".
* no relying on images only. Images may be used to clarify, but  
the information on www.debian.org must remain accessible via a text- 
only web browser, like lynx.


Well, if a feature like #outer>#inner in the css doesn't work in  
iexplore, doesn't it mean that it is a browser specific "extension" ?


No. It is valid CSS and any browser should know, what it means. If  
not, we can find another valid way, maybe.


Anyway, i am very glad that i can participate in the development of  
this website.


Please read the pages about how to get the cvs tree and try to work  
with it. On the other hand you may accept, that there are some rules  
for the pages. We are not doing pages for W? users only, but mainly  
for Debian Users and any changes must be tested, before applying.


If you find changes, that are valid, please post the diffs to the  
list, so that we can have a look at them and apply them, maybe.


Greetings

Jutta

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Suggestions For The Website

[kailander]

Hi
Sorry if I made you angry.
I really appreciate all the efforts that you make to maintain this website, but 
i was just enthusiastic about this you know.

Regards

Suggestions For The Website

[kailander]

Hi Jutta
I found this page "http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/";, take a look 
at it, these are the recommendation for xhtml.
I found that we can link to a location in a page without the use of 
Assigning the target paragraph an id with it is better :

text
text

or
title of the paragraph

what do you think ?

Re: Suggestions For The Website

[Jutta Wrage]

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Am 24.06.2006 um 11:29 schrieb Richard Atterer:


Instead of this:

  a:hover { color: #F000FF; }
  a:visited { color: #800080; }

the CSS should be like this:

  :link:hover { color: #F000FF; }
  :visited:hover { color: #800080; }


I reverted that change, becaus it causes other problems. nad the  
first form we are using now is the suggested way to do things.


If you want the place where the link goes to highlighted or not is a  
personal view. Many people do not see it as a problem at all. But  
making ugly CSS not working on all the other pages/Code is not the  
way to resolve a "problem" for a few users.


For the web page code:

We will nevder have well formed code on automatically created web  
pages, which collect several files to make one page. The code in the  
source files should be readable though. But kailander is not  
referring to the source.


greetings

Jutta


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