Re: 激安ソフト BAKU

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Josip Rodin]

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:23:26AM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
wrote:
> >> This means that we have to copy & paste the entries into the 
> >> webwml/english/CD/vendors.CD file in CVS, *manually* sort the list, 
> > 
> > This manual sorting bugs me. We should definitely be able to throw
> > new entries at the bottom of the list, and have WML sort them for us.
> > 
> > Let's implement the equivalent of mirror/Mirrors.masterlist for CD vendors?
> 
>   I would vote for it, seems to be similar.
> 
> > I seem to recall *some* ancient reason against it, but I can't remember
> > which.
> 
>   Maybe it will popup again. :-)

I think it was something about that database import script that relied on
current vendors.CD file format, and something about sorting. We can scrap
the former because I don't think a separate database is used any more
(seeS?), and the latter can be addressed by Denis and other WML hackers
should the need arise.

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Richard Atterer]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Huh?
> I don't see anything missing in the thread.
> Do you mean http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/05/msg00235.html

Oops - yes, I meant that one! :-o I did check my own spam folder before 
posting... somehow I missed my own mail or it got lost somewhere else on 
the way. Sorry for the noise!

  Richard

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Vendor

[FOSU Media Service]

Hello,

we are owner from a new Linux Onlinestore.

the Shopname is Tux-Onlineshop.de
http://www.tux-onlineshop.de
Yes, we spend money to the Debian Projekt
We have *Offizielle CD* + non-free ; Entwicklungs-Schnappschuss
We are live in Germany
Yes we shipping in the Foreign country
Our Debian Products can you find here: 
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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Frans Pop]

On Saturday 02 June 2007 20:10, Richard Atterer wrote:
> FWIW, I'm unable to send my comments (quoted in part by Josip above, as
> I mailed him directly) to this mailing list. Apparently they are always
> deleted by the list's spam filter. :-(

Huh?
I don't see anything missing in the thread.
Do you mean http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/05/msg00235.html or 
some other mail?


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Richard Atterer]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:03:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:00:38PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > The current system was implemented by Josip recently, and is a big 
> > improvement over the previous state:
> 
> ...the previous state being that a vendor mails assorted bits of information
> to a mail address, and then a human editor *must* take their input apart
> weed out the garbage, and rewrite data into WML syntax.
[...]

FWIW, I'm unable to send my comments (quoted in part by Josip above, as I 
mailed him directly) to this mailing list. Apparently they are always 
deleted by the list's spam filter. :-(

  Richard

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Re: information.for Debian

[Richard Atterer]

¡Hola Eduardo!

Thank you for trying to promote Debian in Paraguay! :-)

We can include you in our list of Debian CD/DVD vendors on 
. However, this is only possible if you 
sell Debian CDs or DVDs, not if you only offer servers with Debian 
pre-installed.

I had a look at your site and there is no information on what CDs/DVDs 
exactly you offer, and no price information. Most links from the home page 
only lead to "404 Not Found" error pages. You need to fix these problems 
before we can list you on debian.org. Once you have done this, you can use 
the form that is reachable via  to 
submit your information.

All the best,

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Don Armstrong]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:57:25 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 
> > 2 doesn't provide the protection of a copyleft license, but it
> > would enable us to use the work in combination with any other
> > license, so would be ok.
> 
> And kinda draconian. Why are we being so hell bent on restricting
> the free license choices for our contributors? As long as the
> licenses are free, why dowe feel the need to be in control so much?

It's not that we need to be in control, but that actually changing the
license is such a pain that we really only want to do it once. The
more restrictive the license we pick, the more likely it is we'll have
to revisit this. Since contributors can't always be contacted, the
more time passes, the more difficult (or impossible) it will become.

If it is at all possible, I want to solve it once and not have to
revisit it again.


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information.for Debian

[Eduardo Cappetta]

In principle pardon my English is not very good
We are interested in the participation of the Debian Project in Our Country,
Paraguay, at the present time is not offered here like Linux alternative to
its distribution, the quality of Internet causes that it is very difficult
obtaining by Web the copies of he himself. Our company installs Servers
linux and of effect of this we are in favor closely together of the
community of users of this operating system. We wished to know if you prune
to distribute to Debian here, is clear that the exemptions are of the
project, is not our idea to make money, single interests imposing to us a
stable product as it is debian it. Next we sent the data to them that they
ask for but this explanation was important.
Thank you very much.


  - Vendor Name
  - Proyectos de Ingenieris SA  ( PROINSA)
  - URL of Vendor
  - www.proinsa.com.py
  - Whether or not you donate some of the sale price to Debian
  - Yes
  - Type of CDs sold
  - Cd and DVD
  - Country you are in
  - Paraguay
  - Do you ship orders overseas ("yes", "no", "some areas" or "within
  Europe")
  - NO
  - URL of a web page that has information about your Debian CDs
  - www.proinsa.com.py/debian.html
  - Email address for sales enquiries
  - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - What architectures your CDs are for.
  - i386
  - amd64

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Bits from the packages.debian.org maintainer

[Frank Lichtenheld]

Hi.

Since I seem to sense an increased stream of offers to help out with
packages.d.o coming my way (but maybe that is just wishful thinking ;)
I wanted to give a short update on the development of the current code
and the status of the infrastructure so that nobody can claim he wanted
to help but failed due to lack of information.

 - The code in the CVS is seriously lacking in many regards, especially
   update and CGI speed. It runs pretty stable though and since we
   excluded robots from using the CGI scripts it seems to run with at
   least enough speed to keep any big complaints from rising.
   (If anyone is interested, packages.d.o currently has
   about 200,000 page hits a day, with a notable decrease
   - up to 50,000 - during the etch freeze and a similar increase after
   release)
 - packages.d.o is currently run on puccini.d.o, this host is
   exclusivly used for this purpose. Adminstration is be done
   by group pkg_maint, current members are Martin 'Joey' Schulze
   and me.
 - The same code is also used to create the page
   http://packages.ubuntu.com, see branch ubuntu in CVS.
   packages.ubuntu.com is run a private server of mine and
   only administrated by me.
 - Everybody with write access to the website has also write access
   to this part of the CVS. The code run on packages.d.o is
   updated once a day during the update cron job. Since there
   is no staging ground for changes, any commits should be made
   with extreme care...
 - Last year Jeroen van Wolffelaar and I started to develop a new
   version with the goal to make dynamic page generation possible
   which allows for faster update of information and more flexible
   presentation. We coordinated our work by using a SVN repository
   located at http://svn.wolffelaar.nl/
 - This development was stalled several times when he and/or I had no time
   to actively pursue it.
 - In April 2007 I decided to revive the development to get the code
   in a state ready for deployment. Since I was by then inititated
   in the wonders of distributed scm, I decided to move the code to
   yet another repository:
   http://source.djpig.de/git/?p=packages.git;a=summary
   (for cloning use git://source.djpig.de/git/packages.git)
   There is also a ubuntu branch there but it is in a rather
   sorry state atm regarding site layout.
 - I think the new code is currently in a state where it could be
   safely deployed to packages.d.o but I'm currently waiting for
   an etch upgrade of the host since the code has grown some dependencies on
   stuff only available in etch. The next possibility for this
   to happen is probably during Debconf.
 - I don't know yet how to handle the SCM stuff when the code
   is to be deployed.
 - You can try out this new code base at http://packages.debian.net/
   (Might be slightly out-of-date sometimes since I don't run the
   cronjob as often as possible to give packages.ubuntu.com more
   ressources)
 - Bug reports and patches against this version are very much welcome,
   please send them directly to me (but feel free to CC debian-www
   if you want to have an open discussion on the matter in question).
 - Bug reports and patches against the version currently in use should
   be directed to the BTS as usual.
 - If there is interest we can make a little improvised BoF about
   packages.d.o at Debconf.

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本場アメリカ！！では第二段が今の流行です！
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です、負荷をつけるゴムバンドも調整付き＆おもり付きです
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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:57:25 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> While my preference is the GPL V2; I would be willing to accept any
>> DFSG free license, if asked. But signing away my rights mean that, in
>> theory, Debian can decide to change the license to something
>> unacceptable (look at documentation the FSF changed from GPL to GFDL,
>> and none of the authors had _any_ say in that).
>> 
>> Not assigning copyright helps keep Debian honest.

> Sure; the second option doesn't involve copyright assignment, but
> gives Debian a licence to the work such that it can pick any DFSG Free
> license subject to approval via GR (or whatever) in the future, in
> case we need to relicense the webpages.

As I said, I am not willing to accept what a future GR does to
 the freedom of my contributions.  I have been running GR's for a while,
 and I know how silly some of the winners are.  The doc relicensing to
 the GFDL by the FSF comes to mind here.

> Of course, MIT/Expat is close enough to such a license that it
> probably doesn't matter.

> How about the following instead, then:

> 1) Copyright assignment to SPI using
> http://ftp.xemacs.org/old-beta/FSF/assign.changes or similar, modified
> to do the assignment to SPI under the direction of Debian.

> -or-

> 2) MIT/Expat license by each contributor.

>> 2 doesn't provide the protection of a copyleft license, but it would
> enable us to use the work in combination with any other license, so
> would be ok.

And kinda draconian.  Why are we being so hell bent on
 restricting the free license choices for our contributors?   As long as
 the licenses are free, why dowe feel the need to be in control so much?

Faced with just these choices, I am beginning to feel the urge
 to resist anything but GPL v3 for my contributions :)

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Bug#368761: marked as done (please add kfreebsd-amd64 amd armel into packages.debian.org)

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Hi!

Please could you add kfreebsd-amd64 into packages.debian.org
search scripts, similarly as already done for kfreebsd-i386 ?

Its archive location is the same as for kfreebsd-i386.

Thanks

Petr


--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:16:31PM +0200, Petr Salinger wrote:
> please, could you consider also adding armel ?
> Its repository is now also on ftp.gnuab.org,
> number of available packages raises, see
> http://unstable.buildd.net/buildd/armel_stats
> 
> Enclosed please find proposed patch against current CVS.

armel and kfreebsd-amd64 are now added to packages.debian.org

Sorry for all the delays while handling this bug. I had hoped
to switch to the new codebase much sooner, but this still
hasn't happened (mostly due to faults of my own).

Also added armel to packages.debian.net, kfreebsd-amd64 was
already added there.

Remaining issue: Fixing the note on the bottom of the download
page for armel. Will do it as I come to it, but patches welcome.

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Re: Please help me! - deleted /bin/hostname

[Richard Atterer]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:11:33AM +0700, Mr. Chu wrote:
> I am using Debian Etch but yesterday, by mistake I delete the file:
> /bin/hostname . So I can't run Apache or any service concerning Webserver
> but I don't want to install Debian again.
> 
> So you can help me by send to me package: */bin/hostname*.

Hi, this is a topic for the debian-user mailing list, not debian-www, but 
I'll answer anyway.

To fix this you need to download the "hostname" package from
http://packages.debian.org/hostname
Be sure to select the right version depending on what version of Debian you 
are running.

Download the .deb file, then open a command shell and use this command to 
reinstall the package:
dpkg -i hostname_*.deb

...And do I need to mention one of the basic rules when working with Linux?
*Don't work as root unless you really really have to!* :-)

Cheers,

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Re: license

[Tommi Vainikainen]

On 2007-06-02T02:01:48+0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> While we're at it. Since we obviously have time-related issues with the
> complete solution :) can someone suggest an alternate phrasing for /license
> that would not be false? How do we reference webwml committers as a group
> without the reference being legally invalid?
>
> Maybe we could replace the /license page with a script

I think that we could write a short script similar to CD vendors
pages, where all data would be in one structured (e.g. XML) file, and
script would make copyright page per language. This would make it easy
to acknowledge copyrights of people who do not have commit access or
are not DDs. There is many of those people (I'm one, being coordinator
for Finnish translations, not being DD but having commit access to the
web site).

At least data should contain full name, copyright years, and which
languages are affected. Maybe we should record in data (but not
publish in web pages) about willingness to relicense data with
specific licenser or give permission for Debian project (or SPI Inc.)
to relicense in any DFSG compatible license.

This way there would be no copyright assignments, no paper work. Of
course relicensing would be done based on trust on email communication
about willingness of authors... (Also not all authors have PGP keys.)

This way we generate /license pages nicely and per translation.
Then for example Finnish license page would contain list of authors in
English and a list of Finnish translators (separately?).

Also a file in CVS would very convenient way to keep track of authors.

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