Bug#509546: www.debian.org: not suitable consultants list

2008-12-22 Thread Hideki Yamane (Debian-JP) 
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: important

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Hi webmasters,

 I saw http://www.debian.org/consultants/index.en.html#Japan, and was very
 very surprised, because there is the name "nihonsoft".

 They are slashdotted (in slashdot.jp) some years ago... why? 
 Because they made their own Linux distribution by just replacing copyright
 holders name with using sed or something...OH NO.

 And they would licensed their distribution under "GGPL", they say 
 "Greater Good Public License", most of the people think it violate GPL 
 (or other licenses), but they don't think so.
 ...it's cruel, but not just a joke. It's true.

 They renamed their license as CGPL, http://cgpl.org/, but just change
 its name.


 They don't know about what is Free Software, what is copyright (or copyleft) 
 and license. They don't have ANY trust from people who cares about Linux and 
 lives in Japan. (If you don't believe, just ask any Japanese FLOSS developers!)

 and others, http://www.fasp.tv/ stops their job (says in their page).

 http://www.codwiz.com/ says only "meaningless" thing, and I'm working for 
 Debian 5 or 6 years (make and maintain packages, translate, join community 
 events), but didn't heared about them... it's so strange thing ;-)


 Strongly, I proposed to remove them from this list.
 And next time you will add consultants in Japan on that page, 
 please ask us - Japanese Debian Developer/Maintainer/Contributors.

 Thanks.

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Bug#509543: www.debian.org: wrong link on News/2008/20080808

2008-12-22 Thread Hideki Yamane (Debian-JP) 
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

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Hi,

 While I was working on translation for News/2008/20080808 page,
 I've found a mistake for link, not "$(HOME)/" but "http://www.debconf.org/";.


- --- 20080808.wml.orig 2008-12-23 14:30:32.0 +0900
+++ 20080808.wml2008-12-23 14:30:58.0 +0900
@@ -85,5 +85,5 @@
 Contact Information
 
 For further information, please visit the DebConf web pages at
- -http://www.debconf.org/ or send mail to
+http://www.debconf.org/";>http://www.debconf.org/ or send mail to
 pr...@debconf.org>.
henr...@babytalk:~/website/webwml/english/News/2008$ 



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  11,000,000 1,122,367664,033 
  
  12,000,000 1,224,401724,400 
  
  13,000,000 1,326,434784,766 
  
  14,000,000 1,428,467845,133 
  
  15,000,000 1,505,000887,500  686,667 
  
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  23,000,000 2,307,667  1,360,8331,052,889 
  
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  26,000,000 2,608,667  1,538,3331,190,222 
  
  27,000,000 2,709,000  1,597,5001,236,000 
  
  28,000,000 2,809,333  1,656,6671,281,778 
  
  29,000,000 2,909,667  1,715,8331,327,556 
  
  30,000,000 3,010,000  1,775,0001,373,333 
  
  31,000,000 3,110,333  1,834,1671,419,111 
  
  32,000,000 3,210,667  1,893,3331,464,889 
  
  33,000,000 3,311,000  1,952,5001,510,667 
  
  34,000,000 3,411,333  2,011,6671,556,444 

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  36,000,000 3,612,000  2,130,0001,648,000 
  
  37,000,000 3,712,333  2,189,1671,693,778 
  
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  47,000,000 4,715,667  2,780,8332,151,556 
  
  48,000,000 4,816,000  2,840,0002,197,333 
  
  49,000,000 4,916,333  2,899,1672,243,111 
  
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  55,000,000 5,518,333  3,254,1672,517,778 

  60,000,000 6,020,000  3,550,0002,746,667 
  
  65,000,000 6,521,667  3,845,8332,975,556 
  
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  75,000,000 7,525,000  4,437,5003,433,333 
  
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Re: no l10n-japanese list ? (was: Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news)

2008-12-22 Thread Hideki Yamane 
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:31:12 +0100
Simon Paillard  wrote:
> What is the obstacle to use a list hosted by Debian ?

 Those lists are hosted bu US, Debian-JP, about 10 years and more,
 so moving cost is larger than staying there.

 #Please consider that we are something like Ubuntu's LoCo.
 
 And lists hosted by Debian are not spam-proof list.


> That may be easier for both users / new contributors / i18n coordination
> to use the same kind of list ?

 If Japanese users want to subscribe lists, they need to read
 English pages which they don't like (haha ;)



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Re: no l10n-japanese list ? (was: Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news)

2008-12-22 Thread Noritada Kobayashi 
Hi,

2008/12/23 Simon Paillard :
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:46:32AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:57 +0100
>> Simon Paillard  wrote:
> [...]
>> > BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
>> > give the translator name ...
>>
>>  I'm a translator (but not committer), and I used debian-...@debian.or.jp
>>  for this, but it is not anyone can post list.
>
> What is the obstacle to use a list hosted by Debian ?

Actually, debian.org has debian-japanese mailing list[1], and
translation update requests
as well as users' questions about Japanese are posted there in
English.  Should it be
divided into debian-user-japanese and debian-l10n-japanese?

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-japanese/

In fact, most of Japanese users use Debian JP's debian-users list (and
debian-{devel,doc,www} lists[2]) in Japanese.  Only some developers,
translators, and
non-native Japanese users uses debian-japanese.  I think this condition makes
Japanese users less interested in English lists on debian.org and is
an "obstacle"... :-(

[2] http://lists.debian.or.jp/

> That may be easier for both users / new contributors / i18n coordination
> to use the same kind of list ?

Many thanks,

-nori


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Re: Fırsatı Kaçırmayın.Kemik yoğunluğu ölç ümünde kampanya!

2008-12-22 Thread Nuran Aslantaş 



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no l10n-japanese list ? (was: Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news)

2008-12-22 Thread Simon Paillard 
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:46:32AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:57 +0100
> Simon Paillard  wrote:
[...]
> > BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
> > give the translator name ...
> 
>  I'm a translator (but not committer), and I used debian-...@debian.or.jp
>  for this, but it is not anyone can post list.

What is the obstacle to use a list hosted by Debian ?

That may be easier for both users / new contributors / i18n coordination
to use the same kind of list ?

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Bug#509477: marked as done (www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news)

2008-12-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System 

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal
Tags: l10n

Going to http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081227 yields a Japanese
news page. On first sight, it might supposed to be the translation of
http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081218, I'm not sure.

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 07:52:57PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 07:27:06PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Going to http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081227 yields a Japanese
> > news page.
[...]
> It's because the translated file has been put under 2008/20081227 while
> it should be under 2007/20071227 (compare with
> http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20071227 )
> 
> BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
> give the translator name ...
> 
> I've moved the file, the problem should be fixed at next build.

Build occured, it's fixed. 

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Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news

2008-12-22 Thread Kenshi Muto 
Hi Simon,

At Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:57 +0100,
Simon Paillard wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 07:27:06PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Package: www.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > Tags: l10n
> > 
> > Going to http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081227 yields a Japanese
> > news page.
> 
> Well spotted !
> 
> > On first sight, it might supposed to be the translation of
> > http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081218, I'm not sure.
> 
> It's because the translated file has been put under 2008/20081227 while
> it should be under 2007/20071227 (compare with
> http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20071227 )

> I've moved the file, the problem should be fixed at next build.

It was my mistake, sorry and thanks for fix it.

Thanks,
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Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news

2008-12-22 Thread Hideki Yamane 
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:57 +0100
Simon Paillard  wrote:
> It's because the translated file has been put under 2008/20081227 while
> it should be under 2007/20071227 (compare with
> http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20071227 )

 Yes ,that's right.

> BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
> give the translator name ...

 I'm a translator (but not committer), and I used debian-...@debian.or.jp
 for this, but it is not anyone can post list.


> I've moved the file, the problem should be fixed at next build.

 Great thanks!


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2008-12-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System 
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Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news
Tags were: l10n
Tags added: pending

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Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news

2008-12-22 Thread Simon Paillard 
tags 509477 +pending
thanks

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 07:27:06PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> Tags: l10n
> 
> Going to http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081227 yields a Japanese
> news page.

Well spotted !

> On first sight, it might supposed to be the translation of
> http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081218, I'm not sure.

It's because the translated file has been put under 2008/20081227 while
it should be under 2007/20071227 (compare with
http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20071227 )

BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
give the translator name ...

I've moved the file, the problem should be fixed at next build.

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Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news

2008-12-22 Thread Helge Kreutzmann 
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal
Tags: l10n

Going to http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081227 yields a Japanese
news page. On first sight, it might supposed to be the translation of
http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20081218, I'm not sure.

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Re: Who's using Debian? SWITCH.ch is!

2008-12-22 Thread martin f krafft 
also sprach Kaare Olsen  [2008.12.21.2338 +0100]:
> I have added the submission from SWITCH to the /users hierarchy;
> it will come online in the next build of the website.

Thank you very much!

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