Re: Creating brazilian from portuguese (big commit ahead)

2011-08-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hey!

This is just another heads up! \o/


On 29-07-2011 12:17, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 The Portuguese community of translators inside Debian decide it
 would be better to have two different languages in the website, one for
 Portuguese (as spoken in Portugal) and one for the Brazilian Portuguese.
 
 The trick part is that the current portuguese directory has been
 used by Brazilian translators for some years.  To align with other
 efforts and reorganizations, Brazil Translation Team will move to a
 new directory and Portugal Translation Team will take portuguese.
 
 I will commit today/tomorrow the Brazilian tree, I'm finishing
 doing some tests and coordinating with WWW Team here at DebConf to try
 to get a smooth transition.
 
 I want to apologize in advance for any breakage or problems that
 this changes may cause (let's hope it happens without much noise). :-)

Patch is mostly done with the help of taffit (thanks). :-)

But as we both will be more or less offline during this week,
I decided to hold back until next weekend (August 5th), then I'll
commit the brazilian subdirectory and the patches to the build system
to activate it.

The patch is not intrusive and I intend to sent commit the
brazilian subdirectory, sent the patch for review, wait a little bit,
apply the patch and monitor the build/website to see if everythings
goes fine.

Thanks in advance (sorry for postponing the change/commit).

Kind regards,
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Creating brazilian from portuguese (big commit ahead)

2011-07-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)

Hi! :)


The Portuguese community of translators inside Debian decide it
would be better to have two different languages in the website, one for
Portuguese (as spoken in Portugal) and one for the Brazilian Portuguese.

The trick part is that the current portuguese directory has been
used by Brazilian translators for some years.  To align with other
efforts and reorganizations, Brazil Translation Team will move to a
new directory and Portugal Translation Team will take portuguese.

I will commit today/tomorrow the Brazilian tree, I'm finishing
doing some tests and coordinating with WWW Team here at DebConf to try
to get a smooth transition.

I want to apologize in advance for any breakage or problems that
this changes may cause (let's hope it happens without much noise). :-)

Kind regards,
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Re: 4th Disc is has crack in it

2009-12-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-11-2009 08:56, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 * Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@funlabs.org [2009-11-28 15:35:09 
 CET]:
 [nice explenation]

  You can find more examples and scripts to do that if
 you look for some articles on Internet. :)
 
  Thanks for the explenation, maybe we should document that on our pages
 somehow. Would you mind adding it yourself, faw? :) I don't feel too
 well with sending people to STFW instead of hosting such informations
 ourself.

I'm sorry for the delay.

Sure, I can write it, I'm just having a hard time
to decide where to put it, would CD FAQ be the right place?

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/


There is a topic How can I verify that the
downloaded CD images are correct?. My idea is to add below
that question a How can I verify that a recorded CD is
correct? or How can I verify that a recorded CD uses a
official Debian image?

Ideas? Comments?

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Re: Suggestion: Change the link names on http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/

2009-12-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 26-11-2009 07:26, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 * Simon Paillard simon.paill...@resel.enst-bretagne.fr [2009-11-01 19:25:19 
 CET]:
 IMHO, it doesn't need to be sorted. It should instead do the same as
 http://get.debian.net/ and display the arch form the user first.
 
  The same? You sure? Including something like this?
 
 #v+
 WARNING: Oops, it seems you have no JavaScript enabled or your browser
 don't support it. I won't be useful for you without JavaScript support.
 Please go to http://www.debian.org/CD/ to get Debian or enable the
 JavaScript support on your browser if possible.
 #v-

Late reply, I know, sorry.

It was the first prototype, we want to get rid of
the JavaScript and run the checks on the server side. In
fact, there is another prototype that does exactly that
but didn't get published (yet).

We also plan to add l10n/i18n, content negotiation
and other types of suggestions/guesses. :-)

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Asking for removal of CD vendor (was: Re: Pedido de exclusão de fornecedor)

2009-12-13 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Marco is asking us to remove a Brazilian CD vendor called
Distribuições Linux (CC:ed), here is the
short-translated-version of his explanation:

* Bought full pack of CDs and choose registered mail as shipment
  which adds R$ 6.00 to the total price.

* 20091124: payment confirmed.
* 20091126: email sent to Marco confirming that his order was
  ready to be shipped.

* 20091202: contact with online support, spoke with Renan that
  explained some problems with the site happened and assured
  the order would be sent on the next day.

* 20091207: Marco spoke with Renan again, the vendor said the
  order was shipped and the track number would be send by e-mail.

* 20091210: Marco tried to spoke with vendor, without success.


Marco believe such vendors don't deserve to be listed on our
website. At the bottom there is an email from the vendor
confirming the payment with an URL to the order details.



To Marco:  todas as listas acima, exceto a debian-l10n-portuguese,
são listas em inglês, se você precisa de ajuda com as traduções,
continue copiando a -l10n-portuguese, caso contrário, você pode
continuar dando mais informações em inglês mesmo (e daí não
precisa copiar a -l10n-portuguese). :)


On 10-12-2009 23:11, Marco Antonio Pereira wrote:
 Peço aos administradores e responsáveis pelo site www.debian.com que na
 parte de fornecedores de Vendedores de Cds Debian
 excluam o fornecedor Distribuições Linux.
 
 O motivo para tanto é que eu estava a procura da distribuição completa
 do Debian, fui ao site oficial do Debian e lá encontrei
 o fornecedor já mencionado, fiz o pedido no site do fornecedor no dia
 20/11/2009, paguei com a opção de entrega por carta registrada
 que é acrescido R$ 6,00 ao valor do produto.
 
 Meu pagamento foi confirmado no dia 24/11/2009 e no dia 26/11/2009
 recebi o e-mail de produto separado e embalado.
 Eu consegui contato no dia 02/12/2009 via atendimento Online que existe
 no site e falei com o Renan e o mesmo me disse
 que houve vários problemas no site e me garantiu que seria enviado no
 dia seguinte.
 
 Na segunda-feira dia 07/12/2009, consegui falar novamente com o Renan e
 o mesmo me disse que já havia enviado e me passaria
 o nr de ratreio por e-mail, e agora há pouco iniciei uma conversa com
 ele no mesmo atendimento Online e ao me identificar ele não respondeu
 e colocou o atendimento em OFFLINE.
 
 Portanto um fornecedor que faz isso, não merece receber indicações da
 Debian, pois mancha o nome de uma instituição séria.
 
 Também tomarei outras providências cabíveis.
 
 Grato e a disposição para maiores esclarecimentos,
 
 Marco Antonio Pereira
 
 
 
 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:05:32 +
 To: marco.pereira7...@hotmail.com
 From: cont...@distribuicoeslinux.com.br
 Subject: Situação do Pedido Modificada: Seu Pedido 1000

 Oi Marco Antonio Pereira ,

 a Situação do seu Pedido de N° 1000 foi modificada.

 A nova Situação é:
 

 Pagamento Confirmado
 

 Para ver os Detalhes do Pedido, por favor acesse este link (ou copie-o
 para seu navegador):

 https://www.distribuicoeslinux.com.br/index.php?option=com_virtuemartpage=account.order_detailsorder_id=1000Itemid=83


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Re: 4th Disc is has crack in it

2009-11-28 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 27-11-2009 15:56, Sthu Deus wrote:
 Thank You for Your time and answer, Simon:
 
 You can compare MD5SUMS for the CD provided against the original MD5SUMS
 (or SHA as well) provided at
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/
 
 I guess the check will work for iso files only - not burned discs.

You can use isoinfo to get the number of blocks, then
use a combination of dd and md5sum to check if the checksum
matches.

Something along those lines:

$ isoinfo -d -i $MEDIA_DEVICE

You will see two line like:

Logical block size is: 2048
Volume size is: 123456

Then

$ dd bs=2048 count=123456 if=$MEDIA_DEVICE |md5sum


You can find more examples and scripts to do that if
you look for some articles on Internet. :)

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/releases/etch/errata.wml: adding 4.0r6

2009-01-05 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

I'm unsure if I could add the entry, so I'm writing to
debian-www to point it out. :-)   To make it easier, the entry
would be:


  liThe sixth point release, 4.0r6, was released on
  a href=$(HOME)/News/2008/20081218December 18, 2008/a./li


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Re: pido por una ayuda

2008-11-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hola Alexis,

Por favor, escribe para debian-user-spanish (en español) o para
debian-mirrors (en inglés), debian-www es solo para asuntos que están
directamente relacionados a la manutención del sitio debian.org o del
wiki. :-)

http://lists.debian.org

Saludos!


For debian-www:
Alexis is asking help to use our mirror sync scripts, he wants
to synchronize some servers and would like to implement that
using rsync+ssh.

Kind regards,


On 18-11-2008 20:11, alexis mazorra wrote:
 Señores, no se si este loco escribiendo esto, pero no pierdo nada por
 esperar una respuesta a este mensaje.
 
 Tengo dos servidores apache y quiero replicar uno de ellos al otro. Me
 gusta el modelo que se aplica en el mirror de debian. estoy trabajando
 en el, pero a quedado un poco complicado.
 
 Tengo corriendo rsync en una de las maquinas como demonio, esta es la
 maquina que quiero replicar. y esta todo bien.
 
 Necesito que se replique automaticamente, que los cambios del servidor,
 o del apache a replicar se apliquen automaticamente despues de ocurrir.
 
 Ustedes utilizan un metodo atravez de ssh, y me quedaron grandes los
 script de configuracion para esto.
 
 No logro saber cual es el script que le dice a los sclavos que hay un
 cambio.
 
 solo es esto, cualquier informacion me es utili. muchas gracias.
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Re: Options changed in check_trans.pl

2008-10-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 01-10-2008 12:06, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
 Also note that the output of the script might have (slightly) changed.
 I've tried to make it clearer and more userfriendly, using colours to
 distinguish the different statusses of files, but please let me know if
 that poses any problems.  Of course, the rewritten script probably also
 has other bugs;  please let me know if you encounter one.

On Brazilian Portuguese team we used to grep the check_trans.pl
results to look after the Missing pages or to split/group certain things,
I noticed two things doing it:

1) The terminal color codes displays bad if I redirect to a text file.
2) If I do a CTRL+C while running check_trans.pl my terminal remains
   in the last color used. :-(

The second one seems to be a bug, for the first one, would be
possible to provide a no-color or somebody give a hint of a hack
that could remove the color control sequences. :-)

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Re: cdrom problem

2008-06-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 28-05-2008 16:43, roberto potasso wrote:
 Dear debian.org http://debian.org
 I booted from my ATAPI CDROM cd n°1 that i downloaded from
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/iso-cd/
 
 but the install program says no CDROM is found. Where did it go?
 (My MotherBoard is ASUS P5K SE)
 Could you help me please?
 Tnx
 Roberto

Hi Roberto,

debian-www is the contact point for the Debian WWW Team,
please use the debian-user list for support, if you prefer there
are support lists in other languages:

http://lists.debian.org

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Re: PAGTO CD DEBIAN E ATE AGORA NAO RECEBI

2008-05-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 02-05-2008 15:03, wmjfm wrote:
 Mr. (s),
 Paymenting $ 80.00 Reais per 03 DVDs of DEBIAN 4.0 Rev 3 more in the
 Manual Portuguese, and as it was by bank still had an increase of $ 5.00
 totaling $ 85.00, as announced in its website: http: / /
 www.atuatech.com.br / shop / index.php on architectures: ALPHA, ARM,
 HPPA, i386, iiA64, m68k, MIPS, POWERPC, s390, SPARC, SOURCE. And until
 the memento still not received the same, the seller does not this more
 or taking my phone calls already called for the conventional and
 cellular phone and not one of the two are met. The payment was made
 Banco Bradesco, for bank on: 17/04/2008 and ate the moment still not
 received them. The name Vendendor is:
 
 ATUATECH Development
 81 - 3055-0804 - Monday to Friday: 09:00 to 18:00 H
 81 - 8803-9581 - emergency Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays

Hi wmjfm,

Did you receive your CDs?

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Re: Lista de Vendedores

2008-05-12 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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To debian-www:

Lucio is asking how he could be added to the CD Vendors
page, I'm pointing him into the right direction.


On 12-05-2008 11:39, Lucio Santos wrote:
 Gostaria de informações sobre como figurar na lista de vendedores dos
 sistemas debian.

Lucio, a debian-www é uma lista cujo idioma oficial é o
inglês, portanto, em futuras mensagens à lista não use português.

Veja a página de informações sobre os vendedores de CDs
Debian: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info e você pode usar o
formulário para ser adicionado:

http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding-form


Se você se refere a alguma outra lista, por favor, seja
mais específico para que possamos ajudá-lo.


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Re: Patch to webwml/portuguese/Bugs/pseudo-packages.wml

2008-05-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 02-05-2008 10:01, Eder L. Marques wrote:
 (in Cc brazilian l10n coordinator)
 
 Hello,
 
 I am sending a patch to fix a typo in the
 webwml/portuguese/Bugs/pseudo-packages.wml file.
 
 Please, someone with commit access could update this file?

File updated. But you didn't sent a patch, you sent
the entire file. :-)

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Re: [WikiVote] Translation Namespace Policy

2008-01-20 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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[ Sorry about the late reply ]


On 06-01-2008 21:58, Franklin PIAT wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 00:46 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 On 05-01-2008 19:11, Salokine wrote:

 1. Could you read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/TranslationNamespace ?
 I read the propositions and it pretty much
 includes almost all the options that I'm aware of. But with
 more recently versions of MoinMoin, the wiki engine becomes
 able to deal with Content Negotiation and DictWiki, which is
 similar to the idea of translating the WikiName, like:

  en: wiki.debian.org/Hardware
  fr: wiki.debian.org/Materiel


  I totally agree with the argument that different
 language could use the same Word and that could create other
 problems, but I would like to point out two pages from
 MoinMoin:

  http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLanguages
  http://moinmo.in/MultipleLanguagesSupport

 Did you see something especially interesting, that was missed ?

The DictWiki, could allow us to link translated pages in
a way that they could be handled similar to Content Negotiation.


  Using subdirectories still seems to be one of the
 best options, but I would love to hear if it works with the
 MoinMoin Content Negotiation
 Content Negotiation is very basic (Built-in pages only, AFAIK). 
 I'm not sure it would help, since a given pages should still exist in
 every language (with different URL).
 
  and DictWiki, if we can actually
 list a SubPage as an equivalent translation, we would have
 together the best of two worlds.
 maybe something like :
  [[PageList(re:^MacBook/[a-z][a-z]$)]]

I don't think we can use that in this way, we will probably
need to split it by Language, anyway, using the subdirectories with
same English name across the wiki.d.o is similar to what www.d.o is
doing.

MoinMoin support Macros in Python, we could also think
about having something along these lines ([[ShowTranslatedPages]]).

[...]

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Re: [WikiVote] Translation Namespace Policy

2008-01-05 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05-01-2008 19:11, Salokine wrote:
 Hi,

Hi,

Thanks for you work on this. I'm cc:ing you because I'm
unsure of which list are you subscribed to and I'm also bcc:ing
Erinn that is involved with wiki.d.o back-end and I think could
have a valuable opinion on this matter.


 We are working on Translation Namespace on wiki.debian.org and we need your 
 opinon for validation.
 
 1. Could you read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/TranslationNamespace ?
 It presents main propositions
 
 2. Could you vote for your favorite proposition on 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/TranslationNamespace#wikivote ?

Salokine, I read the propositions and it pretty much
includes almost all the options that I'm aware of. But with
more recently versions of MoinMoin, the wiki engine becomes
able to deal with Content Negotiation and DictWiki, which is
similar to the idea of translating the WikiName, like:

en: wiki.debian.org/Hardware
fr: wiki.debian.org/Materiel


I totally agree with the argument that different
language could use the same Word and that could create other
problems, but I would like to point out two pages from
MoinMoin:

http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLanguages
http://moinmo.in/MultipleLanguagesSupport


Using subdirectories still seems to be one of the
best options, but I would love to hear if it works with the
MoinMoin Content Negotiation and DictWiki, if we can actually
list a SubPage as an equivalent translation, we would have
together the best of two worlds.

I also saw that the idea of using an language
extension like:

wiki.debian.org/Hardware.Fr
wiki.debian.org/Hardware.fr

would cause some problems in various contexts, it
was considered the idea of using a prefix or suffix with
hyphen or underline?

wiki.debian.org/Hardware_fr

OR: Hardware_Fr; Hardware-fr; Hardware-Fr
OR: Fr-Hardware; fr-Hardware [...]

I know it might not be as good as the . and it
might be really broken, but with the DictWiki it might be
viable, although I still prefer the SubPage approach
using language directories and pages with the same name
as in English. (Maybe the Content Negotiation can be
added as a MoinMoin Macro and/or plugin, perhaps contacting
MoinMoin upstream on that matter would give us even more
info to take the best option for now and future upgrades).

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Re: Automatic update of pages

2007-12-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-12-2007 18:01, David Paleino wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm a Debian-Med team member, and I'm working to get some nice features for 
 our
 (and, possibly, also other) CDD. The idea is to have pages like [1] and [2]
 automatically updated by a python script, possibly put on our Alioth space (so
 that everyone in the team can edit/fix/improve it) or, better, in our SVN
 repository, always on Alioth. The script would parse some task files (see an
 example at [3]).
 I've sent a mail to our mailing list (CCed), and one of the guys with write
 access to the debian.org space (Charles Plessy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) made me note that the space is
 write-protected [4], so he suggested me to write here. Is there any chance to
 achieve what I planned? Any workaround?
 [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/microbio
 [2] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/record
 [3]
 http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cdd/projects/med/trunk/debian-med/tasks/?rev=0sc=0
 [4] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.medical/2771

Automatic updates direct in the files would break the
sync of translation check for other languages and the website
mirrors. In a first look, I can imagine two approaches:

1) A status file with metadata outside the CVS

Similar to the PO statistics, the build script could
download the status from Debian-Med and generate
the different pages for the different languages at
build time.


2) A status file with metadata inside the CVS

Have a .data file used by the build script but instead
of being downloaded automatically it would be commited
to the CVS.


Preference for 1 and 2 would depend on whether you want
to have history of the data/metadata. About the updates, it
really doesn't matter how many times the python script would run
because the changes will only appear on the next wwwbuild.

http://people.debian.org/~faw/tools/wwwbuild-lessoften.html
http://people.debian.org/~faw/tools/wwwbuild-often.html


In both cases you are likely to need to patch the build
scripts and much probably get the approval of a webmaster to
commit it.


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Re: Automatic update of pages

2007-12-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-12-2007 18:43, David Paleino wrote:
 Il giorno Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:38:09 -0200
 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 
  Automatic updates direct in the files would break the
 sync of translation check for other languages and the website
 mirrors.
 
 I think I've solved this problem, which occurred on our website with SVN
 commits, with a little hack. Update the pages into a different directory of
 the one that would be shown outside, and copy them over the old ones once the
 update is finished. Is that feasible? (Or maybe I didn't understand what you
 mean)

IMHO, no. Every language copy the English file, translate
it and add a header called translation-check, how are you going
to update all the languages?  Not only that, but if you do that on
gluck we will have webmirrors out-of-date. And, if this is only
meta data to be update, specially machine readable, there is no
point in update it _before_ the wwwbuild, let the build process do
it in a consistent way for all languages and allowing all webmirrors
to sync the up-to-date file.


 In a first look, I can imagine two approaches:

 1) A status file with metadata outside the CVS

  Similar to the PO statistics, the build script could
  download the status from Debian-Med and generate
  the different pages for the different languages at
  build time.


 2) A status file with metadata inside the CVS

  Have a .data file used by the build script but instead
  of being downloaded automatically it would be commited
  to the CVS.
 
 I can't get what you're meaning here. I'm sorry I don't know
 debian-www internals, could you elaborate a bit more?

I don't know exactly what you want to change on the
pages so I can't give better hints/tips/info because I don't
know exactly the problem is. But you have mainly two ways to
go: (1) use an external source of data for the changes you
want and (2) use an internal (committed to the CVS) source
of data.

Probably, you will need to tell wwwbuild the
information that needs to be update, similar to what is done
by the PO statistics:

http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/
http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po-debconf/


When the wwwbuild runs, it will check what is needed
and will generate the files up-to-date with what you want.
The website is build 6 times a day (lessoften runs only once)
and you should update what is needed between build time to
get your info published. You just need to tell us, or wwwbuild
what you want to update.

Try to avoid mess with the .wml files itself because
it will generate extra work for translators if you commit
such update every hour. You can learn more about the website
infrastructure here:

http://www.debian.org/devel/website/


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Bug#457238: add contact buildd maintainers

2007-12-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 20-12-2007 20:37, Geert Stappers wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Hello,
 
 Sometimes it happens to request a rebuild on a buildd computer.
 And when that happens I have allways a hard time to find the right
 persons for such requests.
 
 I think it would be a good thing if http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/
 has a pointer to such contacts.

Hi, it seems that /devel/buildd is aimed to the info
about the buildd infrastructure, you can find the contact
information at:

http://www.debian.org/intro/organization

,--
| Buildd Administration --
| The admins responsible for buildd's for a particular arch can be reached at
| [EMAIL PROTECTED], for example [EMAIL PROTECTED].
| Names of individual buildd's admins can also be found on 
http://www.buildd.net.
| Choose an architecture and a distribution to see the available buildd's and
| their admins.
`--

IMHO, the generic [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems more interesting
to be listed instead of the person/people e-mail address.

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Re: Automatic update of pages

2007-12-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-12-2007 19:20, David Paleino wrote:
 Il giorno Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:08:09 -0200
 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 On 23-12-2007 18:43, David Paleino wrote:
 I think I've solved this problem, [...]
  IMHO, no. Every language copy the English file, translate
 it and add a header called translation-check, how are you going
 to update all the languages?
 
 I got an idea about this. I was thinking of getting packages descriptions from
 DDTP files (Translation-lang). Isn't it possible to do something like
 (writing PHP-style, since I don't know WML):
 
 ...header...
 ?php
 include (data/packages.html)
 ?
 ...footer...

 This way, translators should only translate the header and the footer, since
 the inner data is already translated from DDTP (or, if not, is in English).
 But probably this might be a problem, since Charles told me that the pages
 _must_ be fully translated. In this case we would have partially-translated
 pages, if all the descriptions on DDTP are not available.

Yes, it is a problem and it also seems a little bit of
duplicating contents/efforts. The Debian Web Site has a very
specific way of being built and the translation system has an
established set of procedures, adding untranslated texts
from DDTP in it seems out of context at a first glance.


[...]
  I don't know exactly what you want to change on the
 pages so I can't give better hints/tips/info because I don't
 know exactly the problem is.
 
 Those pages are manually updated. My script would just take the packages from
 the task files I linked before, and update the pages accordingly.

Ok, if we are talking about colors and related info,
that can be made with a .data file for all the languages, and
you will only need to commit it (or provide it) in a proper
way.  But if it include the description of the translations,
then I think it is more in the line of a new application or
another approach (like links to DDTP).

This seems a new type of problem and I don't think
that the automatic updates represent a good solution.
packages.d.o uses DDTP translations, perhaps you need some
sort of new infrastructure to provide resources for other
CDDs, in a similar way with what we already discussed for
ddtss.


 But you have mainly two ways to go: (1) use an external source of data for
 the changes you want and (2) use an internal (committed to the CVS) source
 of data.
 
 You're coming to my previous point here: isn't it possible to have an 
 include
 command in WML (/me is googling for that) to get external HTML / XHTML / WML
 sources? In that case, the only problem would be the write access to CVS for
 the script.

You also have the translation problem. And AFAIK, the
website uses outside meta data but don't use outside text like
(X)HTML/WML, specially because of the structure of statistics
for translations, the include still doesn't seem to fit, it
is probably a hack but right now, I wouldn't support its
inclusion. :-(


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Mini-bits from i18n Meeting (was: Re: {i18n,ddtp}.debian.net downtime during Debian i18n Extremadura Meeting)

2007-12-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 18-12-2007 08:21, César Gómez Martín wrote:
 On Dec 11, 2007 7:44 PM, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 During the Debian i18n Extremadura Meeting, churro, the
 machine kindly donated by the Extremadura to host Debian i18n
 infrastructure will be off-line. We will work on it during the
 meeting, for that reason, Cesar already turned off the machine to
 transport it to our meeting place.
 
 People should expect it to be back after December 17h, 2007,
 the meeting ends on December 16th, then Cesar needs to move it back
 to the Data Center to reconnect it. The machine is already off, to
 be moved soon to our Work Session.
 
 This affects the i18n.debian.net which provide services like:
 
 * PO compendiums
 * Statistical data and graphs
 * debian-l10n robot for language teams (pseudo-urls), this
   also affects Smith Review Project
 * DDTP backend (ddtp.debian.net), and indirectly it will
   affect DDTSS (http://kleptog.org/cgi-bin/ddtss2-cgi/pt_BR)
 * PO material for web statistics and other resources

 Hello, the server is up again.

 Sorry for the inconveniences.

Hey everybody, we are waiting churro to come back and the
ddtss migration so we can send the bits from Debian i18n Meeting,
hopefully it won't take long, we have a few things to write down
and review, we hope that by the end of the week all information
hit the proper mail lists. Sorry for the delay and inconveniences.

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{i18n,ddtp}.debian.net downtime during Debian i18n Extremadura Meeting

2007-12-11 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi people,

During the Debian i18n Extremadura Meeting, churro, the
machine kindly donated by the Extremadura to host Debian i18n
infrastructure will be off-line. We will work on it during the
meeting, for that reason, Cesar already turned off the machine to
transport it to our meeting place.

People should expect it to be back after December 17h, 2007,
the meeting ends on December 16th, then Cesar needs to move it back
to the Data Center to reconnect it. The machine is already off, to
be moved soon to our Work Session.

This affects the i18n.debian.net which provide services like:

* PO compendiums
* Statistical data and graphs
* debian-l10n robot for language teams (pseudo-urls), this
  also affects Smith Review Project
* DDTP backend (ddtp.debian.net), and indirectly it will
  affect DDTSS (http://kleptog.org/cgi-bin/ddtss2-cgi/pt_BR)
* PO material for web statistics and other resources


Kind regards,
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Bug#454438: proposed-updates links broken

2007-12-11 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05-12-2007 10:49, Simon Paillard wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:50:20PM +0100, Kilian Krause wrote:
 On http://www.debian.org/releases/proposed-updates.en.html there's links
 to http://ftp-master.debian.org/proposed-updates.html and
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/oldstable-proposed-updates.html. Both of
 which don't exist. Please update to the correct location.
 
 To be more precise, they do exist (no 404 error), but the rights on
 these files may be wrong since apache returns a 403 error (forbidden).
 
 Given that ftp-master.d.o is not managed by the webwml cvs, I guess we
 should submit a ticket to DSA.

Had somebody did that? Just add the RT ticket to the bug
report and reassign it to ftp.debian.org, otherwise, I (or
somebody else) could proceed on that, I was unsure if somebody
had already reported it and searches on RT can fail to find the
right ticket.


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Bug#452397: when?

2007-12-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-11-2007 16:30, Yuri Kozlov wrote:
 When it will be activated?
 And Russian translation too.

I think Franks just didn't saw it. He is cc:ed now.

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Re: an error in the website download page

2007-12-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-11-2007 05:30, Simon Paillard wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 07:40:09PM -0800, Shahin Golshan wrote:
 I want to download libx11-dev from your website, this is the actual link:
 http://packages.debian.org/sarge/arm/libx11-dev/arm/download
 It gives the error meesage
 arch set more than once in path,
 
 http://packages.debian.org/libx11-dev then click on sarge, then click on
 arm, then click on the download link in the middle of the page
 
 How did you arrive on the bad link you reported ? through an external search
 engine ?
 
 By the way, please not as reminded by the packages.debian.org site that
 the right method to download a package on a debian system is to use apt
 or aptitude.

It was reported before (I couldn't find the message, but I
remember testing and confirming it), so I'm cc:ing Frank (djpig) so
he can take a look at it. :)

Here is how you can reproduce it:

1) Pick any package, let's use the above:
http://packages.debian.org/libx11-dev


2) Choose any version, let's pick sid.
   The URL looks like:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/libx11-dev

   The pathway in red bar looks like:
 Debian   Packages   sid (unstable)  libdevel  libx11-dev


3) Choose an arch to download, let's pick s390.
   The URL looks like:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/libx11-dev/s390/download

   The pathway in red bar looks like:
 Debian   Packages   sid  libx11-dev  s390  Download


4) Now, click on the s390 link on the red bar:
   The URL looks like:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/s390/libx11-dev

   The pathway in red bar looks like:
 Debian   Packages   sid (unstable)  libdevel  libx11-dev


5) Only arch s390 shows up, try to click on it to download.
   The URL looks like:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/s390/libx11-dev/s390/download

   And finally the error: arch set more than once in path



Hope this helps.

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Re: Changelogs missing

2007-12-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-11-2007 06:53, Lemb, Joakim wrote:
 Some changelogs are missing from the website:
 
 ~ # aptitude changelog samba
 
 E: Couldn't fetch URL
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.24-6etch8/changelog
 
 Same error when trying to reach the changelog from:
 http://packages.debian.org/etch/samba
 
 Same error for kernel:
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4/changelog
 
 Seems to be a “naming” issue of the files, as these works:
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13/changelog.html
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.24-6/changelog.html

Yes, it is already reported a while ago. I cc:ed Frank
at that time, not sure if this is p.d.o or package related.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/11/msg00185.html


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Re: a mistake in text on site

2007-11-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi Andriy,

Thanks for you contact and report.


On 29-11-2007 12:51, Andriy Petrachkov wrote:
 I want to point your attention on the mistake I found on the Ukrainian
 i18n page of Lenny: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/
 
 There is a word на протязі should be replaced with протягом in the
 next sentence:
 якщо на протязі деякого часу в них не були знайдені так звані
 „блокуючі випуск (release-critical) помилки.

S... since I do not spoke a word of Ukrainian and I
couldn't find a l10n mail list, I checked the CVS logs and it
seems that the translation was made by Borys and commited by
Eugeniy, both cc:ed on this message. :-)

I'm not sure if I can edit a page in this enconding and
fonts and avoid breaking things, but I will try, as long as somebody
that was/is involved in the Ukrainian translation can give me an OK.

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Re: New security/audit pages not translatable

2007-11-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 29-11-2007 11:46, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 29 November 2007, Steve Kemp wrote:
  They shouldn't have anything to be translated in them (though right now
  there are about three small strings that are there).
 
 Are you perhaps referring to strings like
   ddp$credit discovered that $package contained a $type
   vulnerability./p/dd
 and
   pNo advisories found./p
 in make-advisories?
 
 In that case it would be very nice if those were gettexted. The only problem 
 I see is that some languages would need different declinations for 
 male/female $credit (probably not a problem in practise :-) and maybe how 
 to get $type and maybe even $date translated.

Ok, so let's try to integrate another team player so
we can together improve it. :-)

 * english/po/Makefile

Contains the list of files that will be gettexted, you
can simply add the files in the right tag.

security_FILES  = $(TEMPLDIR)/security.wml \
[...]


You need to use gettext domain=Lorem Ipsum/gettext
on the target file to allow xwmlgettext to get it. :-)

This will make things appear in security.pot and, of
course, when translators run 'make update-po' they will
find the new unstranslated strings.


 * english/template/debian/ctime.wml

It contains several time formats that you can use to
define what you want, please, take a quick look at
News and security, it pretty much does what you want,
specially DSAs, with regards to data files and automatic
updates.


I'm during the final exams week at University, so I'm
without much time, I can implement what is needed during the
weekend or next week. But I would gladly accept your patches
with first steps. :)


Kind regards,

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Re: Wiki: Edit(GUI) may cause data damage ...

2007-11-28 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-11-2007 21:20, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,

Hi Osamu,


 Should we enable Edit(GUI) for wiki?
 
 I just had user editted text which changed all the style over URL
 references and several white spaces.  Quite annoying.
 
 I have problem as reported in
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409482
 
 (Tested positive for Debian)

You should also report that against RT, Erinn (helix)
is taking care of Wiki tickets.


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PS: I'm respecting you MFT setting.
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Re: Link to nonexistent section on doc page (locale specific)

2007-11-26 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 26-11-2007 11:09, Jens Seidel wrote:
[...]
 I do not remember the beginning of the thread 

http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/11/msg00098.html


 but if you want to add a
 remark that doc/index.de.html is outdated it would be wrong!

I don't know Jens, but German page contain a link to
an old URL, probably it was a mistake during translation or
review process.


 The German pages are very well maintained (mostly by Helge Kreutzmann
 and a little bit by me) and according to
 http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/german/doc/?diff_format=h
 and
 http://www.debian.org/devel/website/stats/de
 it is (and was since a long time) up-to-date!

It seems that somewhat between 1.57 and 1.59 it got lost, if
you search for linuxmag in English wml you won't find it, but
it exist in German wml version. Here the log:

- 
revision 1.59
date: 2007-08-31 18:02:08 -0300;  author: kreutzm;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -2
1.86: close tags
- 
revision 1.58
date: 2007-08-03 13:52:23 -0300;  author: kreutzm;  state: Exp;  lines: +36 -33
1.85: merged the reference card spam/fad/whatever down there in the short
  document section
- 
revision 1.57
date: 2007-06-30 09:53:48 -0300;  author: kreutzm;  state: Exp;  lines: +76 -59
*1.77: after the ddp bof at debconf7 :) adjusted the first bit to be a more
   straightforward quick start; adjusted section levels
*1.78: removed old stuff from the main page
*1.79: Remove historical info
*1.80: Move obsolete documentation to some other place
*1.81: Added links to quick reference cards to the coumentation links
   closes: #393710
*1.82: Fixed a typo
*1.83: Close tags and similar markup fixes
*1.84: Historical documents are no longer referenced
- 


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Re: Link to nonexistent section on doc page (locale specific)

2007-11-26 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 26-11-2007 10:01, Hans-Juergen Becker wrote:
[...]
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.bg.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.ca.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.de.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.uk.html
[...]
 Sorry for that redundancy than. I can only read .de. of those four
 languages, so i didn't catch that information.
 
 I think that information should also be put on top of the .de. page.

The information is added when the page is out-of-date
and it is automatically. The point here seems to be a human
mistake, the page is up-to-date, we use a version number in
the translated file that refers to the English version and
tells to the build infrastructure if a page is out of date or
not. In this case, it seems that the review happened but
some changes missed translator eyes. :)


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Re: wiki sign up and wiki name with ''''''

2007-11-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-11-2007 02:31, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 03:00:11PM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
 wrote:
 On 22-11-2007 12:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,

 Is it true if I want to sign up with Wiki, I use 

   Use Firstname''Lastname

 per http://wiki.debian.org/UserPreferences

 I thought we use FirstnameLastname .
  Sorry Osamu, your message is a little bit cryptic
 for me, could you be a little bit more verbose?
 
 Please go to  http://wiki.debian.org/UserPreferences
 
 Then you see the page.  On the right of the box marked as Name, you
 see funny string
 (Use Firstname''Lastname)
 
 I thought we enter as just FirstnameLastname.
 
 Is this right?  My local wiki does not show this '' between
 Firstname and Lastname.
 
 Osamu

Thanks for the additional info. Franklin sent some
input, I forwarded the message to Erinn, it seems that she
is involved with the Wiki maintainance.  You can see the
thread:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/11/msg00225.html


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Re: wiki sign up and wiki name with ''''''

2007-11-22 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 22-11-2007 12:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is it true if I want to sign up with Wiki, I use 
 
   Use Firstname''Lastname
 
 per http://wiki.debian.org/UserPreferences
 
 I thought we use FirstnameLastname .

Sorry Osamu, your message is a little bit cryptic
for me, could you be a little bit more verbose?


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Re: wiki sign up and wiki name with ''''''

2007-11-22 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Thanks for the extra info Franklin.

Erinn, can you take a look into the problem described below?


On 22-11-2007 20:23, Franklin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Some built-in moinmoin pages are corrupted since the moinmoin
 upgrade : it seems those pages are now re-escaped.
 
 For instance, the text FirstnameLastname in UserPreferences, was
 internally stored as Firstname''Lastname, so the CamelCase text
 wasn't converted into a link... now it is actually displayed as
 Firstname''Lastname.
 
 The same occurs when you click on the Edit (Text) link: You get some
 weird encoded text :
  Emphasis:: [[Verbatim('')]]''italics''[[Verbatim('')]]; 
  [[Verbatim(''')]]'''bold'''[[Verbatim(''')]]; [[Verbat...
 
 I guess this should be forwarded to Erinn.
 
 Franklin
 
 
 On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 15:00 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
 wrote:
 On 22-11-2007 12:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Is it true if I want to sign up with Wiki, I use 

   Use Firstname''Lastname
 [..]
  Sorry Osamu, your message is a little bit cryptic
 for me, could you be a little bit more verbose?

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Re: Debian wiki Tamil translation

2007-11-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 19-11-2007 14:31, ஸ்ரீராமதாஸ் wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have started translating Debian website parallely, I wish to contribute 
 translating the debian wiki too.
 
 We have small group of team forming for this purpose. Please guide.

Hi,

There is no formal rules or guidelines. I would recommend
you to read the [1]Wiki Discussion that has some ideas about
common conventions.

  1. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/ConventionsDiscussion


Basically, you should have an account in the Debian Wiki
and start translation, I would strongly recommend that you use
the subdirectory approach and the MoinMoin resources for i18n
and l10n.

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Re: broken link on http://www.debian.org/social_contract

2007-11-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 20-11-2007 03:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:54:35 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) said:  
[...]
 I think this change is Ok. It is not as if we are changing the
  social contract;  this is a bug fix.  And, if memory serves me
  correctly, the document we voted on was plain text; the HTML version
  was created by me after the fact; and the URL's were  added while doing
  so.

Thank you Manoj. Patches applied using smart_change
so all translations up-to-date should benefit from the change
(if I didn't broken anything). Hopefully we can see the new
URL in less than three hours, after the next build-often.


  I didn't touch the old versions of Social Contract,
 if is is OK, I can apply smart_change on them too.
 
 Please do.

Ok, I also applied it for social_contract.1.0.wml
and social_contract.1.1.wml, of course, using smart_change.


 And thanks for keeping the web site sane :-)

You are welcome! :-)


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Re: broken link on http://www.debian.org/social_contract

2007-11-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 31-10-2007 09:05, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
 Hello,

Hi Thiemo!


 just to let you know:  The link Open Source Definition, pointing to
 http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html
 is outdated.
 It seems to me that the correct URL would be:
 http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

Thank you very much!  We just applied a patch on
all versions of Social Contract in English and also in
all translations that are up-to-date. The new URLs should
appear in three hours from now, after the next build of
the website.


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Re: Wiki: render as docbook broken (need to install PyXML)

2007-11-20 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 19-11-2007 12:50, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You need to install PyXML to enable menu for render as DocBookXML for
 Debian wiki site.  Please install it :-)

Hi,

Ticket RT#273 closed (thanks buxy and weasel). Package
python-xml installed on rietz. Can you please check if everything
is OK?


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Re: Wiki: render as docbook broken (need to install PyXML)

2007-11-19 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 19-11-2007 12:50, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You need to install PyXML to enable menu for render as DocBookXML for
 Debian wiki site.  Please install it :-)

RT#273, as soon as it hits the public queue:
https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?user=guestpass=readonlyid=273


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Re: modify audit group member jaguar

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 14-11-2007 11:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks a lot for the change .

You are welcome.


 http://www.debian.org/intro/organization.html

 can you change it here as well?

Yes, both should appear in the next www build, which
should happen in less than 4 hours.


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Re: Security Servers down ???

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 17-11-2007 15:23, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Dear maintainers, 

Hi Hans,

Next time, use the debian-security mail list (I'm cc:ing) them,
debian-www is the list that Debian WWW Team uses to maintain the Debian
website.


 I cannot reach the the servers ftp.de.debian.org (and I get errors with 
 security.debian.org) when using apt-get update.
 This is only at i386, the amd64-part is working fine.
 
 Is anything known about this ? If yes, I I need not to search my system for 
 errors.

Not that I'm aware of or that was announced, it could be a
temporarily failure in the link and/or service. Another list that
might be useful is the debian-mirrors.

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Re: Link to nonexistent section on doc page (locale specific)

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 09-11-2007 14:03, Hans-Juergen Becker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the following pages:
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.bg.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.ca.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.de.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/index.uk.html

Besides .de. all other pages has an information
on the top saying that it is out of date.


 contain a link to the following page/section:
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/misc-manuals#linuxmag
 
 which is nonexistent. (Has it been removed?)

Yes.

revision 1.19
date: 2007-06-22 08:51:23 -0300;  author: jfs;  state: Exp;  lines: +0 -36
Linux magazines are no longer in the archive


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Re: packages search tool became more restrictive

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05-11-2007 17:51, Martin Shaffer Levac wrote:
 Hi,

Hi Martin, thanks for your contact.


 Now, when I look for a packages at the web page:
 http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages
 
 the search is extremely restrictive, even if i don't check the «Only
 show exact matches» checkbox.
 
 By example, if I look for «php» nothing is found!  If I look for «php5»,
 I get 50 matches!

Now, the search stops if you hit more than 100 entries,
if I search for php I got this error:

,---
| You have searched for packages that names contain php in suite(s) stable,
| all sections, and all architectures.
|
| Your search was too wide so we will only display exact matches. At least
| 100 results have been omitted and will not be displayed. Please consider
| using a longer keyword or more keywords.
`---


When you use php5, you exclude all other 'php' (only php)
and that makes the search not too wide.


 That makes it very likely for somehow to think that no packages related
 to some topics are available while there are plenty of them.
 If I don't know which is the current PHP version, I'll find nothing!

I'm not sure why the error message didn't appear to you, but I
think it is pretty clear that the problem is the fact that the keyword
hit too many packages.

You can always use apt-cache search and use a more restrictive
search, you can also browse the directory/section:

http://packages.debian.org/sid/web/


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Re: GPG Request - Add place date selector

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 01-11-2007 07:54, Clifford W. Hansen wrote:
 Greetings,

Hi Clifford,


 When adding a place to my GPG info, I only have the option of choosing this 
 year or last year, and I think this needs to be extended to at least two 
 years in the future.
 
 Thank you.

Can you please be a little bit more specific and tell
us about *what* page are you talking about?  I think you are
talking about: https://nm.debian.org/gpgplace.php

If the above is true, then we should bounce this
message to debian-newmaint, I know the website says you should
contact debian-www but it seems to be out-of-date. I'm cc:ing
the list anyway, as it seems that both things could be changed.


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Re: Fwd: missing changelog for package: linux-image-2.6.18-5-686

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi djpig,

I tried to understand what happened below, but I'm not
sure if this is a bug in packages.d.o or in aptitude changelog.
It seems that the URL points to a different package version,
I tried with linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 and it pointed to etch2.


On 31-10-2007 15:44, mastrboy wrote:
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Oct 31, 2007 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: missing changelog for package: linux-image-2.6.18-5-686
 To: mastrboy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:06:02PM +0100, mastrboy wrote:
 Just a notice, the changelog is missing for the following package:
 linux-image-2.6.18-5-686

 code
 debian:/var/log# aptitude changelog linux-image-2.6.18-5-686
 Ign ChangeLog of linux-image-2.6.18-5-686
 E: Couldn't fetch URL
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4/changelog
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for linux-image-2.6.18-5-686
 debian:/var/log#
 /code
 
 hey,
  Thanks for the report.
  The changelog is included within that package, so the issue here is
 with the packages.debian.org site. I suggest checking out that site to
 find the appropriate contact.

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Re: broken link on http://www.debian.org/social_contract

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 31-10-2007 09:05, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 just to let you know:  The link Open Source Definition, pointing to
 
 http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html
 
 is outdated.
 
 It seems to me that the correct URL would be:
 
 http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Thiemo

Ok, this information is correct, but I'm not sure if
anyone can change the Social Contract, I'm cc:ing Manoj, and
attached is the proposed patch by smart_change.pl.

I didn't touch the old versions of Social Contract,
if is is OK, I can apply smart_change on them too.

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===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/catalan/social_contract.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -r1.13 social_contract.wml
--- catalan/social_contract.wml	20 Nov 2005 22:19:34 -	1.13
+++ catalan/social_contract.wml	19 Nov 2007 01:49:20 -
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 anomenat a href=#guidelinesPrincipis del Software Lliure de Debian
 (DFSG)/a, dissenyat inicialment com a conjunt de compromisos que acceptem
 respectar, ha estat adoptat per la comunitat de software lliure com a base
-de la a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html;Definició Open Source/a.
+de la a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd;Definició Open Source/a.
 
 HR
 h2«Contracte Social» amb la comunitat del software lliure/h2
Index: czech/social_contract.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/czech/social_contract.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -r1.6 social_contract.wml
--- czech/social_contract.wml	20 Nov 2005 22:19:34 -	1.6
+++ czech/social_contract.wml	19 Nov 2007 01:49:20 -
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 strongSpoleèenskou smlouvu/strong. Souèástí smlouvy jsou inbsp;a
 href=#guidelinesZásady svobodného softwaru pro Debian/a, které se
 pozdìji staly základem pro a
-href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html;Definici otevøeného
+href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd;Definici otevøeného
 softwaru/a.
 
 HR
Index: danish/social_contract.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/danish/social_contract.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -r1.20 social_contract.wml
--- danish/social_contract.wml	20 Nov 2005 22:19:34 -	1.20
+++ danish/social_contract.wml	19 Nov 2007 01:49:21 -
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@
 strongDebians sociale kontrakt/strong. a href=#guidelinesDebians 
 retningslinier for fri software (DFSG)/a-delen af kontrakten, oprindeligt et 
 sæt løfter som vi er enige om at overholde, har fri software-fællesskabet taget 
-til sig som basis for a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html;\
+til sig som basis for a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd;\
 Open Source-definitionen/a (Ã¥ben kildekode-definitionen)./p
 
 hr
Index: english/social_contract.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/social_contract.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.22
diff -u -r1.22 social_contract.wml
--- english/social_contract.wml	4 Aug 2007 12:35:52 -	1.22
+++ english/social_contract.wml	19 Nov 2007 01:49:21 -
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed
 as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by
 the free software community as the basis of the
-a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html;Open Source Definition/a./p
+a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd;Open Source Definition/a./p
 
 hr /
 h2qSocial Contract/q with the Free Software Community/h2
Index: finnish/social_contract.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/finnish/social_contract.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 social_contract.wml
--- finnish/social_contract.wml	20 Nov 2005 22:19:34 -	1.18
+++ finnish/social_contract.wml	19 Nov 2007 01:49:21 -
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 vapaiden ohjelmistojen ohjeisto (Debian Free Software Guidelines
 (DFSG))/a ja jonka oli alun perin tarkoitus määrittää joukko
 sitoumuksia, jotka aiomme pitää, on vapaiden ohjelmistojen yhteisö
-ottanut a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html;Open Source
+ottanut a href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd;Open Source
 -määritelmän/a pohjaksi./p
 
 hr /
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Re: Debian for S390 links

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-10-2007 12:18, RPN01 wrote:
 Go to the URL http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ and
 look down the page for the S390 on DVD. I downloaded all three DVDs, but I
 think that you really only need the first one to get started, and then
 during the install, you can point to a Debian mirror to get everything else
 you need.
 
 You'll need to find the three files on the DVD needed to do the initial
 boot. For z/VM, you'll want the ones meant for the virtual card reader, or
 for a bare LPAR, you'll need the ones for tape. The three files contain the
 initial kernel, the parmfile, and the initial initrd to be loaded.


Thank you very much, I'm not quite sure why you send me this
information, but thanks. :)

I'm still trying to figure out if trustsec have a new home for:
http://www.trustsec.de/deb390/, that's the broken link reported
in the first message.


 I'm not sure why the Debian site is so messed up, and / or why no attempts
 are being made to fix it.

If you are complaining about the info on how to install, please,
consider reporting a bug against installation-guide-s390. And
there is a great chance that people that can fix that are not
aware about the problem.


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Re: not translatable strings in mirror/submit.inc

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 30-10-2007 08:43, Simon Paillard wrote:
 /english/mirror/submit.inc (included in all languages) includes some
 english strings which cannot be translated for the moment :
 
 line 13: same as the above

Simon,

Is this informational? Or a bug report?


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Re: Debian Wiki: Give your opinion

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 27-10-2007 06:22, Franklin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Prefixed method: Language + / + PageName like 
 PortugueseBR/DebianIntroduction
 
 * If we use the form Language/Title, shouldn't we use languages codes
   rather than languages names : French/Users is ambiguous (is it a
   page about french users ??).  fr/Users would make it less ambiguous.

The URL tends to be not so nice: pt_BR/Users, anyways, it
it not very important, using directories would be the main point.
One could also think about adding support in MoinMoin for Content
Management, then we could have Users.en, Users.pt_BR, Users.fr


   Also, it would be possible to identify pages translations easily  
   with a regex ^[:alpha:]{2}(/|_[:alpha:]{2}/).*
 
   Finaly, the URL would be shorter !
 
 * I think we should modify moinmoin's Frontpages names to conform with
   the naming policy of translated pages.

We need to also talk with translators via debian-i18n,
would be good to have their input on this matter.

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Bug#447893: Dead link on http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.de.html#record-windows

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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#447893: www.debian.org: dead link on 
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.de.html#record-windows
tags 447893 + confirmed
thanks


On 24-10-2007 13:17, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
 In your website www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.de.html#record-windows the
 section about CDBurnerXP Pro the link Handbuch des Programms (in the
 program's manual) is broken.

I checked the upstream website and it seems that the old
URL: http://cdburnerxp.se/help/burniso is gone. I tried to search
and find the equivalent information but I couldn't. The forums
are pointing to the helpfile but there are no info about burning
ISO files.

I can imagine three options:

1) We remove the link and add some text like: More info on the
   website upstream.

2) We remove the program all together

3) We contact upstream and see if they can change it. :-)


I took number 3, but I couldn't find an e-mail address,
so I used their Contact form, hopefully they will reply, I don't
know if in the meantime we should make some workaround.


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Re: Debian consultants

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 14-10-2007 17:44, Thomas Huriaux wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Jan Prunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04/10/2007):
 I am wondering if anyone is still updating the page for Debian consultants ?
 The last update was made in August, and I don't know if the new
 submissions for consultants were properly received ?
 
 No, it's no longer updated. I no longer have the time and motivation to
 process the requests, and it seems to be the same for everybody else in
 the team.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated (and is really needed).

How much we are talking about?  Dozens of entries per day/
week/month?  Is it just adding web pages? There are other tasks?
Can we post a message recruiting people and training them?

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Re: Debian for S390 links

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi s390 list. :-)

Below it a message that arrived in -www asking for more
info about Debian for s390.  I checked the trustsec link it now
shows a web page but I couldn't find the Web portal, do you
have any information so we can update the Debian WWW pages?

On 02-10-2007 09:10, RPN01 wrote:
 On page http://www.debian.org/ports/s390/ the two key links, “trustsec”
 and “Web portal” go nowhere. The trustsec link goes to a page which says
 “IT WORKS”, and the Web portal link fails entirely.
 
 Is there another source for media for Debian for S390?

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Re: modify audit group member jaguar

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 26-09-2007 13:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi 

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply!


 i used to go by the alias jaguar whihc i dont uset it anymore
 , could you please change it in the Security Audit Project section to
 swaraj bontula

I think you are speaking about this page:

http://www.debian.org/security/audit/faq#credit


I'm bcc:ing other members of Debian Security Audit Project
to get an OK (or other people from -www that can confirm the change
is OK) and any commiter can fix that. :-)

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Re: Bug#447893: Dead link on http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.de.html#record-windows

2007-10-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 27-10-2007 19:04, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 3) We contact upstream and see if they can change it. :-)
   I took number 3, but I couldn't find an e-mail address,
 so I used their Contact form, hopefully they will reply, I don't
 know if in the meantime we should make some workaround.

Here is their reply:


-  Original Message 
Subject: Re: Contact from cdburnerxp.se
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:04:01 +0200
From: Florian Schmitz

Hi.

Unfortunately, our online manual is not yet complete and thus most
pages are still missing. We aim to complete it as soon as possible
though.
So there currently is no correct link available.

Regards,
Florian


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Re: Erro de Página

2007-10-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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To debian-www:
Ailton is complaining that the given URL returns an error,
I'm explaining to him what debian-www is about and pointing
him that kdelibs4 does not exist in the current stable.


On 25-10-2007 13:15, Ailton Leite de Moraes wrote:
 Prezados Senhores,

Olá Ailton,


 O endereço http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/kdelibs4 está apresentando
 erro de página.

Sim, porque o pacote kdelibs4 não está disponível na versão
stable do Debian, acesse: http://packages.debian.org/kdelibs4 e
você verá em quais versões ela existe.


 Fineza nos informar se o nome do referido endereço foi alterado.

O endereço não foi alterado, embora o serviço por trás do
site packages.debian.org tenha sido atualizado. De qualquer forma,
eu gostaria de chamar a atenção para alguns detalhes, a debian-www
é uma lista de discussão pública usada pela equipe que dá manutenção
no site web do Debian, a língua oficial da lista é o inglês.

Para dúvidas e questões técnicas, você pode usar uma outra
lista, esta sim em português, a d-u-p:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese


 Obrigado,
 Ailton Leite de Moraes
 Participante do Curso GanttProject

De nada,
Abraço,
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Re: Debian Wiki: Give your opinion

2007-10-23 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 23-10-2007 19:23, Salokine Terata wrote:
  That's really nice. I have a few comments:
 Thank you very much. I have inserted and merged your comments in 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWikiConventionsDiscussion

You are welcome. Thanks for merging it. :-)


The translation should use the subdirectories approach, similar to
PortugueseBR, it makes it easier to build consistency (same page names)
and allow easier integration with some sort of tool in the future like
po4a.

 So there are currently 2 main suggestions:
 Suffixed method: PageName + Language like DebianIntroductionFrench
 Prefixed method: Language + / + PageName like 
 PortugueseBR/DebianIntroduction
 
 I don't know what's the best way. You suggest that Prefixed method is the 
 best for using with PO. Why ?

Because it is the natural way considering all other translations,
we use it in Debian Women Wiki, we use it in CVS webwml, D-I Manual,
Debian Doc CVS, there is always subdirectories with the other languages.


 Could you give us Internet ressources where I can find arguments about this ? 

Sorry, I can't. That's my argument based on my experience with
i18n/l10n. I can tell you that it is more consistent with the Name
Space, because it doesn't polute it, FrontPage will always be FrontPage,
doesn't matter the language, probably, build statistics and l10n tools
on top of this models would be easier, considering po4a and this model.


 I'm interesting by this point because I think (like you) that's very 
 important for the evolution of DebianWiki.

IMHO the PageNameLanguage was a natural extension of the
wiki model and an inheritance from wikis that doesn't support URLs
that looks like folders.

There is another point that need to be considered that is
related with the Content Negotiation, MoinMoin supports it in some
way and it probably needs to be considered while defining the
recommended procedure for Debian Wiki.


 I like the PortalProposal but I think it has a better chance to
 get adopted if you really map the current FrontPage to the Proposal, or
 is it your intention to drop all the links?
 
  Yes, the goal is to keep all existing links on current FrontPage. These 
 links 
 will are move in the appropriate portal. For this moment, PortalProposal is 
 an example. The beginner domain is the most update example and play the 
 reference role.

Nice, probably once it is ready it has a great chance to
become the new default. Thanks for your work on this.


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Re: Pedido sotfware

2007-10-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 20-10-2007 13:00, Vicente Martinez wrote:
 Necesito repositorios Ubuntu 7.º10
 Vicente

Vicente,

Esta es una lista de discusión en inglés y acerca de
la manutención del sitio web de Debian, para informaciones
acerca del Ubuntu visite http://www.ubuntu.com

Saludos,



To debian-www: Vicente is asking about Ubuntu 7.10 repositories,
I'm telling him what debian-www is about and pointing him to
Ubuntu web site.
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Re: Volatile Submit Page Problem

2007-10-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11-10-2007 13:58, David Bartley wrote:
 Hi,

Hi David,

 I submitted a mirror to http://www.debian.org/volatile/submit a week or
 two ago, and another request yesterday. When I hit submit, I received a
 blank page both times. Can someone check if the submit script is working
 and whether or not my submissions were received (they would have been
 for mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca).

Sorry for the late reply, try to use:

http://www.debian.org/mirrors/submit


Volatile is being integrated in the main Debian Mirror
Infrastructure, try to submit your entry again or, if you have
an entry, try to update it. If any problems arrive, do not
hesitate to contact us.


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Re: Not valid CSS.

2007-10-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 21-10-2007 21:15, Polarina wrote:
 At the front page, clicking on the 'W3C CSS' button results in an error:
 
   673:
   #leftcol, #navbar, #navbar a
   Property -moz-border-radius doesn't exist : 15px
 
 Farewell.  :-)

Hi Polarina,

Thanks for your contact, we use vendor specific extensions, please
take a look at: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#vendor-keywords


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Re: Debian Wiki: Give your opinion

2007-10-21 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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[ Dropping debian-devel-french ... ]

On 20-10-2007 23:02, Salokine wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm working to propose a portals tree on Debian Wiki. the goal of these hub 
 pages is to organize and to structure the Wiki.
 
 I would like this structure more coherent and understandable as possible for  
 readers.
 
 Give your ideas in:
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWikiConventionsDiscussion#portal-structure

That's really nice. I have a few comments:

1) I would use a more strict wording in the policy, specially with regards
   to use or not CamelCase or to use or not underlines, if the idea is to
   be consistent, we should clearly *not* recommend something, like, use
   CamelCase and avoid _.

2) The translation should use the subdirectories approach, similar to
   PortugueseBR, it makes it easier to build consistency (same page names)
   and allow easier integration with some sort of tool in the future like
   po4a.

3) For knowledge indicator, just drop the non star version, use only
   three levels with at least one star. :-)


 Look at this example:
 http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage/PortalProposal
 
 Could you read and suggest some improvements and ideas ?

I like the PortalProposal but I think it has a better chance to
get adopted if you really map the current FrontPage to the Proposal, or
is it your intention to drop all the links?


 I hope you to give me constructive answer in this mailling-list or directly 
 on 
 the Wiki.
 
 Thanks.
 Salokine.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Translating packages.debian.org (Call for translations)

2007-10-19 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 19-10-2007 11:04, Eder L. Marques wrote:
 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) escreveu:

 Well, I'll make this job with the debian-l10n-portuguese, just like
 every others, and I won't send anything without synchronize with the
 team, but no problems for me if you prefer yourself commit. :)

At least in the beginning... until you get used to the
system and procedures. Then, we can coordinate our work on the
list as usual, but with more people with commit access.


  BTW, I'm already working on p.d.o translations. :-)
 
 I didn't see an entry about it in the our status page.
 Let's go to organize our efforts in our mailing list.

I'm working alone in the website for more than one year,
addingo info to the robot in this context is meaningless and
useless and only make me work more. :-)

Having another pair of hands to help with the website
translations sounds nice, and I'm happy to see this happens,
anyway, this is now off-topic for -i18n and -www. Let's work
on that on our list.


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Re: Translating packages.debian.org (Call for translations)

2007-10-18 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 18-10-2007 18:23, Eder L. Marques wrote:
 Frank Lichtenheld escreveu:
[...]
 1) write access
 ---
 non-DDs with write access to the website CVS are not automatically
 added to the webwml project on alioth, please ask me to do this
 manually (the alioth web interface has means to do that).
 
 I don't have write access to webwml but, if possible, can I be added?
 My alioth user is frolic-guest (with ssh working by keys).

Since I have write access, I can commit it for you.
And considering that you are not used with the webwml work
until now, I would rather prefer that you first provide some
patches via debian-l10n-portuguese.

BTW, I'm already working on p.d.o translations. :-)

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Re: por favor en programa de debian

2007-10-09 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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debian-www,

Williams want to receive a copy of Debian. I'm explaining
him what debian-www is about, pointing him to the right page and
mail list.


On 09-10-2007 11:44, WILLIAMS PEÑA wrote:
 me gustaria si esta en sus posibilidades de enviarme el software de
 debian. estoy como novato

debian-www es una lista de discusión en inglés para el
Time de Manutención del sitio web. Además, Debian no manda CDs
gratuitos a las personas: http://www.debian.org/CD/free-linux-cd


Para ayuda, usted puede utilizar la lista en español para
suporte a los usuarios: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/


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CVS commit messages from portuguese

2007-10-07 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi everybody,

In the last couple of days, I noticed that I'm not receiving
commit messages from myself, I can see kreutzm commit messages to
portuguese and other directories, I'm wondering if something is
wrong the the commit script? Can somebody confirm? (Or help me? :)


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[RFC] Change the first paragraph for superseded constitutions

2007-10-07 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

There is something that kind of bothers me for quite
sometime and since I was updating the Portuguese translation
of the Debian Constitutions, I feel that it might be a good
time to ask for some opinions.

[1]Comparing the constitutions you will notice that
we will have a chain effect for every single update that we
might do to it.

1.0 talks about 1.1 and 1.2
1.1 talks about 1.0 and 1.2
1.2 talks about 1.0, 1.1 and 1.3
1.3 talks about 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2


Do you think it would be a bad idea if we use something
like: X.Y ratified date. Supersedes K.W ratified date. Superseded
by A.B ratified date. The actual constitution is link.

So, I was wondering if there is some WML magic that can gives
us a variable to add the version to all constitutions and we could
stick with the model: This supersedes X and was superseded by Y, and
btw, here is the most actual constitution.

I'm not sure if we can do that in the Constitution and how is
the best way to add a if then else structure in the WML, I would be
happy to digg on it, do the changes and propose a patch if this is OK
to make such wording.

Kind regards,

[1]:
webwml/english/devel/constitution.1.0.wml:
,-
| pVersion 1.0 ratified on December 2nd, 1998. Superseded by
| a href=constitution.1.1Version 1.1/a ratified on June 21st,
| 2003, which is itself superseded by a href=constitutionversion 1.2/a,
| ratified on October 29th, 2003./p
`-

webwml/english/devel/constitution.1.1.wml:
,-
| pVersion 1.1 ratified on June 21st, 2003.  Supersedes
| a href=constitution.1.0Version 1.0/a ratified on December 2nd,
| 1998. Superseded by a href=constitutionversion 1.2/a, ratified on 
October
| 29th, 2003./p
`-

webwml/english/devel/constitution.1.2.wml:
,-
| pVersion 1.2 ratified on October 29th, 2003. Supersedes
| a href=constitution.1.1Version 1.1/a ratified on June 21st,
| 2003, which itself supersedes a href=constitution.1.0Version 1.0/a
| ratified on December 2nd, 1998.
| Superseded by a href=constitutionversion 1.3/a, ratified on September
| 24th, 2006./p
`-

webwml/english/devel/constitution.wml:
,-
| pVersion 1.3 ratified on September 24th, 2006. Supersedes
| a href=constitution.1.2Version 1.2/a ratified on October 29th,
| 2003 and
| a href=constitution.1.1Version 1.1/a ratified on June 21st,
| 2003, which itself supersedes a href=constitution.1.0Version 1.0/a
| ratified on December 2nd, 1998./p
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Re: Very Urgent

2007-10-06 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 06-10-2007 16:33, frank asabere wrote:
 Could you plesae help to install packges like apache, postgresql, php4
 libapache-mod-perl.
 since l have all the 14 cds .
 Please help me out

Hi Frank,

debian-www is a mail list that takes care of Debian Website.
Please, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], it is the official
support list and you can get help there. :-)


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Re: [listmaster] Lowering SA score for your list

2007-10-04 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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[ Dropping Zobel, -mirrors and listmasters ]


On 04-10-2007 10:55, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 some listmasters are currently monitoring the amount of spam to your
 list, and see quite a big amount of spam coming to your list.
 
 Since beginning of September we have the possibility to set SA scores
 per list. I hereby would like to ask, if it makes sence for you, that we
 lower the SA score from now 3.6 pts to 3.4 points and see what happens.
 
 Be aware that lowering the score by .2 points might risk in having more
 false possitives, which then would not appear on the lists.
 
 Please report back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you think that this is
 reasonable. Please reach consensus on the list first.

debian-www is the main contact address for the website,
I'm not sure if .2 points well drop people trying to contact
us, and I don't know what was the policy in the past about the
primary e-mail contact for first time visitors (if it is
- -www or -project).

I would love to see less SPAM, but if we need to keep
it low to allow people to talk with us, then, I can live with
it.

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Re: CD VENDOR

2007-09-22 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 21-09-2007 03:57, Juan Manuel wrote:
 My name is Juan Manuel Arbotti and I am one of Debian vendors in
 Argentina. I would like to update my personal information.
 
 Where it says:
  VENDOR Juan Manuel Arbotti should be DistroRosario.
  CD/DVD CD now should be CD+DVD
  Architectures i386, amd64 should figure i386, amd64 and multi-arch
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 ¡Saludos desde Argentina!
 
 Juan Manuel

Hi Juan,

Please use: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding-form

You can choose to update the information of an existing
CD Vendor (that's you case) and the information will be sent to
the people that are more involved maintaining CD Vendor database.


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Re: translator.db.pl

2007-09-14 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11-09-2007 17:28, Simon Paillard wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:44:11PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 I copied the translator.db.pl to webwml/romanian/international/romanian/ 
 and adapted, but I didn't receive any mails though I'm listed as 
 maintainer for all translated pages under /CD/ and there were changes.

 Am I missing something?
 
 At least for the french team, mail are sent by a script running on a
 personnal machine (of Pierre Machard).
 
 The source of this script is at the root of the webwml repository :
 webwml/check_trans.pl
 
 That is not a official nor debian.net service.
 
 Maybe such a script can be hosted by i18n.debian.net ?

Definitely it can and we have plans for that. :-)

We are just a little bit behind our schedule but I will
try to take a loot at it as soon as possible and will let -www
know about it. (Probably I will contact -i18n and some of the
- -l10n lists with active WWW translators before).

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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by kreutzm: webwml/english/mirror ftpmirror.wml

2007-06-04 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 06/03/2007 07:11 AM, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 03:49:51AM -0600, Debian WWW CVS wrote:
 CVSROOT: /cvs/webwml
 Module name: webwml
 Changes by:  kreutzm 07/06/03 03:49:51

 Modified files:
  english/mirror : ftpmirror.wml 

 Log message:
  Fix markup: Closing tags, br /, q, ...
 
 What is the point of doing this in the source, when WML fixes it in the
 output anyway? This just creates one more revision for the translators
 to track.


Because a lot of people doesn't know about that. :-(

The br / doesn't change the output because of wml,
but the substitutions of quotes by q has impact on how
data will appear.

Probably I won't have much time before DebConf, but
hopefully during DebCamp (DebConf and after it) we could
write some recommendations about this and as part of our
common goal to have a new web face for the Project.

Another valid point, is that having a common code
base (even if WML will change it) is important for smart
changes and massive patches/fixes.


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-31 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/31/2007 01:56 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:44 -0700, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 
 
 On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
 It's unlikely that our web pages have much content for which there
 isn't prior art, or simply common knowledge.
 
 Prior art isn't an issue, since it's not patented.
 
 In any event, to resolve this issue completely all that we need is 1)
 a GPG signed email from every contributor saying that they either
 assign copyright of their contributions to SPI or give SPI a
 non-exclusive royalte-free license to do with the copyright work as
 they see fit 2) a directive from the DPL to SPI to license the work
 under GPL (or MIT/Expat or whatever -www decides.)
 
 I am willing to relicense my contributions under the GPL v2; 

Thank you.


 but I am not willing to assign my copyright away.

Ok, as noted in another message with Don Armstrong, we
are probably going with both options, people can either assign
copyright of their contributions to SPI or relicense it. :)


 I specifically do not trust the SPI enough to allow them to
  relicense my work in the future.

Would you allow the Debian WWW Team (or a DPL delegate for
that matter) to relicense your work under a DFSG compatible license?
Or, would you dual-license it GPLv2 and MIT/Expat?  That would make
our work easier.

Anyway, you are a WWW contributor easy to contact to ask
for arrangements about licensing issues, so I think we just have
to wait a little bit until Don propose the game plan before we
start working on this.


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Re: problems with etter

2007-05-31 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,


On 05/31/2007 08:06 PM, Heartfelt wrote:
 HI.  Im a newbie whos just fed up with being attacked with worms and
 other shit.  n e ways.  I recently tried to download the ettercap
 0.7.3.orig.tar.gz and when i went to unzip it it said that i had to
 create its own archive.  Am i doin somethin wrong here.  hit me back. my
 email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank

Please, try to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

debian-www is the list where we take care of the Debian
Web Site. :-)



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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-31 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/31/2007 06:12 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On Thu, 31 May 2007 17:06:08 -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  
 
  Would you allow the Debian WWW Team (or a DPL delegate for
 that matter) to relicense your work under a DFSG compatible license?
 Or, would you dual-license it GPLv2 and MIT/Expat?  That would make
 our work easier.
 
 I personally would not mind a dual licensing, but I would prefer
  the GPL. One of the set of pages I have been meaning to add to the vote
  pages is an HOWTO about using the Debian vote softwareto run other
  votes; and it would help if I could just use the docs from devotee --
  which is GPL'd; and has incorporated other material also distributed
  under the GPL.

 In general, allowing people to add docs and other material from
  software should be encouraged, as long as the software is DFSG free.
 
 I belong to the school of thought that divides computer related
  material into software/hardware/wetware,  so as ar as I am concerned,
  the wml source for the web site is software, just like any other struff
  I package.  Anything DFSG free should be acceptable.
 
 manoj


Thank you very much Manoj! :-)


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-31 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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license and authors/translators as a comment on every single page.

As of now, we have 3687 pages, a total of 25679 web pages
translated across 34 languages. We probably need to make a call
for translator so them could check inside teams, some of them
should be using translation_maintainer and that could already
help.


Is that anyway close to what we are imagining/aiming? Or am
I totally wrong? :)


 Regards
 Javier

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/30/2007 11:03 AM, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:00:38PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
 The current system was implemented by Josip recently, and is a big 
 improvement over the previous state:
 
 ...the previous state being that a vendor mails assorted bits of information
 to a mail address, and then a human editor *must* take their input apart
 weed out the garbage, and rewrite data into WML syntax.
 
 That was just painful. It needed to be fixed years ago, but nobody ever
 got a round tuit. :/
 
 On http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding-form, CD vendors fill out
 the form, the results are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a standard format.
 
 This format is standardized, but not WML. Hey, why didn't anyone tell me
 that I should do that, it could be done fairly easily :)
 
 This means that we have to copy  paste the entries into the 
 webwml/english/CD/vendors.CD file in CVS, *manually* sort the list, 
 
 This manual sorting bugs me. We should definitely be able to throw
 new entries at the bottom of the list, and have WML sort them for us.
 
 Let's implement the equivalent of mirror/Mirrors.masterlist for CD vendors?

I would vote for it, seems to be similar.


 I seem to recall *some* ancient reason against it, but I can't remember
 which.

Maybe it will popup again. :-)


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/30/2007 05:51 PM, Peter Karlsson wrote:
 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña:
 
 Even though the timeframe for the removal is rather large (6 months)
 it would be a nice addition to that service to have the actions e-mail
 to translators' lists before they are taken (and content is removed
 from the website).
 
 Currently, the only mail produced is the one that is sent to my by cron
 running the update script. Perhaps it should also post the results
 somewhere, although they do get posted to debian-www-cvs as all other
 cvs activities (but they may of course drown there).

We could integrate it to i18n.debian.net.

We have the translation_maintainer fields and databases,
we should mail the maintainers and if no maintainer is specified
the translations team mail list, ultimately the -i18n or -www
could be used it a team mail list could not be found.


What do you think? I can provide ssh access to a trust
GPG key (keyring.debian.org works) for the server. We could
implement that as part of the i18n infrastructure (and future
plans to have centralized translations resources/informations).


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/30/2007 11:08 AM, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:20:40PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
 wrote:
 
 About a redesign
 

  I think that should be done, from time to time, using
 proper CSS, to show people that the Web Team is  alive and working.
 I'm not saying to put flash or any not *very* accessible material,
 Im just saying that from time to time (2-3 years) we could
 re-arrange our CSS (and maybe layout) so people could come and
 say: COOL! Debian keeps surprising me!.
 
 Just changing the colors (even nuances) or a couple of visual bits and
 pieces, would be good.

Definetely. And I would like to have that as a goal. :)


  For quite some time, Im really unsure if we should use
 br / or br, if we should use a quote () or q, if we should
 check new pages when they come in and review it (even before
 translators work on it).
 
 I don't think we should ever be worrying about br/ vs br, or similar
 formatting issues.
 
 WML *exists* for the purpose of abstracting those kinds of details
 out of the editor's view.
 
 The new q thing is a good idea, it should have been done long ago
 (also through WML, but this method with CSS is okay today).

Ok, one way or the other we should find a common definition
and push that, right now we have 4 or 5 different types for the same
tag, that won't help. :-(

So, if WML is the way to go, let's create a definition for
break lines and start patching our beloved website, if we can handle
that automatically even better for translators, if webmaster agree,
we can start that perhaps during DebCamp. ;)


  I really think that we need to first change a couple of
 core structures in the (X)HTML code and CSS and after we can
 work on the logical and structural areas of the website.
 
 I think that logical and structural discussion is more important than
 formatting. Even visual design issues are by now more important than
 whether we pass this or that syntax validator :/

Really, I'm not worried about the validator, my focus
here it to make easier to use a few tricks when the logical
and structural changes come to the scene. Some changes needs
to have a 100% compatible (X)HTML code, which means that we
need to fix the underlayer and we can do that while preparing
the next steps.

I'm not giving up on one thing to the other, I'm just
lining them up to get them easier each step we take forward.
Cleaning the website, taking decisions about the standards
we are going to use and goals we want to achieve, could make
it easier to the logical and structural changes once they
come.

Honestly, what I'm looking right now is to improve
our code structure and our goals so we can have new code
flowing in with the expected syntax. I'm also working on
the proposed logical/structural changes, but that takes a
little bit more time.

Having a code syntax and a common goal would make
it easier for some of the people that I have been bothering
to help me with the logical/structural changes, right now I
can't say them we are using XHTML or HTML or $whatever. I'm
really not nitpicking about formatting or validators, this
is really part of a bigger plan. :-)


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/30/2007 10:23 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
 On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
 It's unlikely that our web pages have much content for which there
 isn't prior art, or simply common knowledge.
 
 Prior art isn't an issue, since it's not patented.
 
 In any event, to resolve this issue completely all that we need is 1)
 a GPG signed email from every contributor saying that they either
 assign copyright of their contributions to SPI or give SPI a
 non-exclusive royalte-free license to do with the copyright work as
 they see fit 2) a directive from the DPL to SPI to license the work
 under GPL (or MIT/Expat or whatever -www decides.)
 
 #1 should probably be made a part of the proceedure that is followed
 when you get commit access to the cvs, and #2 is simply a matter of
 e-mailing leader@ once -www decides which licence.

I remember that some people complained about given their
copyright to SPI (or $whoever), I think we should go with both
options, I'm only afraid about having material licensed under
incompatible licenses (could that happen?). I don't think we
should have an endless discussion about something that would
be extremely hard to happen, in my opinion, MIT/Expat seems to
be a good license for the website and I would vote for that one.


 The legal verbiage for #1 we can just borrow from the FSF; if there
 aren't any serious objections I could even embark on getting these
 messages from contributors.

Don, I volunteer to help you. I can help with the Brazilian
contributors, we are going to need to also ask help of other
translations team.

And considering a lot of other people have infinite more
understading of Copyright issues, what should we do if we can't
find/contact the contributor and/or he/she decides to not relicense
it?  Is it possible to remove the content and rewrite it free?


 Don Armstrong

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/29/2007 08:05 PM, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:20:40PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
 wrote:
  I would like to know if we have a Web Policy or if we
 should have one, some small lines, nothing complicate, just to
 say:
 
 There's no Policy AFAIK, just the documentation at
 www.debian.org/devel/website/

Ok. Just to be sure. :-)


  - Our procedure for out-of-date pages is this, the log of removed
pages is here.
 
 That would be nice, actually, an automatic mechanism that would mail the l10n
 mailings everytime a batch of pages are removed could prompt translation
 teams into action.

We have pages that reports what is out of date and AFAIK
when a page is 6 months out-of-date they are removed, if I'm not
wrong, peterk is taking care of this, he also has a report page
where it shows the stats.


  - We have a translation robot that is working this way
 
 No, there's none specific for the web page.

Ok. But I know there is infrastructure for that. :)


 =
 About Who's using Debian and CD Vendors
 =

  It would be possible to have a very minimal system to take
 care of those submissions, I think it would help a lot people doing
 this job to keep track of what was already included and what still
 needs to be done, the system could even send e-mails to -www-cvs.
 
 Having an automatic tool would certainly speed up the time into getting this
 information into the site. There is already a template, so enforcing it would
 be simple.
 
  Could it be written in PHP/Perl using a sqlite database?
 
 Yes, why not. It would not be able to be hosted at www.debian.org, but we
 could point people to an application at say, submissions.debian.net or
 submit.debian.org, which would be a standalone server (no mirrors) and take
 where dynamic applications could be hosted.

Nice. I would like to also hear from the people more
involved in CDs and Who's using Debian submission. If they
think it could be helpful. ;)


  I really think that we need to first change a couple of
 core structures in the (X)HTML code and CSS and after we can
 work on the logical and structural areas of the website. IMHO,
 it is a long term goal for at least 6 months of improving the
 underlayer until we can easier change our web face. :-)
 
 I think we should first fix #238245 and #388141 (and for those 
 who push to the use of the wiki, #385797 too)

Ok. That's too. But I was speaking about the changes
that we are able to do on the structure of our website right
now (lower case tags, close them, change to XHTML, prepare
to CSS Aural). That's something we definetely can do without
much trouble. I'm going to wait a little bit more and if
nobody complaing about this, I will start preparing patches
so we can discuss and commit them. We should also check the
automated scripts adding news, security and other info to
made them compatible with our format (probably we should aim
at XHTML).

I'm would like to help with the License problems, I
will start collecting the permissions from the Brazilian
Portuguese Translators, but I think we should find a license
first and I know this is a delicated subject. I'm in favor
to also use a well established license, on debian-legal
GPL and MIT are usually the recommended ones.

My question would be: should we vote for the desired
license via GR and start collecting permission from authors
and contributors and prepare ourselves to rewrite/remove
everything that is not licensed or permitted?

Or should we start contacting authors and asking them
to relicense their contributions under DFSG-compatible licenses
(given them options of compatible licenses between each other?).

And finally, when a new account is given, should we
ask people to gpg-sign something in agreement to provide only
DFSG-free content under the license we choosed?


 Regards
 Javier

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Doubts and Ideas

2007-05-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hey -www! :-)

Since long time I have this draft sitting on my MUA and
as I'm always trying to improve the text and collect all the bits
it is remaining here. Originally it was a reply to one of the
mockup threads, I decided to write a new mail based on the recent
event and on the constantly quoted website on all sorts of threads.

Ok, while we are at it, please let me try to solve some
long-standing personal doubts, because I would like to help more
with our website. I'm working in the website for a few years now,
and I really have some doubts about bugs and procedures and some
ideas that I should had shared before (sorry about that).



About a redesign


I think that should be done, from time to time, using
proper CSS, to show people that the Web Team is alive and working.
I'm not saying to put flash or any not *very* accessible material,
Im just saying that from time to time (2-3 years) we could
re-arrange our CSS (and maybe layout) so people could come and
say: COOL! Debian keeps surprising me!.

I'm not saying that our website is not very good, I really
like it because the huge amount of information, number of
translations and accessibility (text browsers and our concerns with
standards -- W3C, (X)HTML, CSS). But from what I've seen in the
last months, we have been maintaining the website more then
developing and improving it.

Even if we are not exactly a Web Team right now, I think
that if we keep the good work started by Jutta and others, we are
able to create space for more contributions.


==
About XHTML, CSS and related stuff
==

For quite some time, Im really unsure if we should use
br / or br, if we should use a quote () or q, if we should
check new pages when they come in and review it (even before
translators work on it).

I don't know if XHTML 1.1 or 2.0 is our long term goal,
or if is our goal at all. I'm unsure if we should start contacting
contributors and fix the long standing license problem of the
website.

I would like to know if we have a Web Policy or if we
should have one, some small lines, nothing complicate, just to
say:

Hey, welcome to webwml, please check this recommendations before
 your first commit and enjoy! Thanks for your contributions!

 - Our target is to have full XHTML support by Lenny.
 - We are aiming to have CSS-aural by Lenny+1.
 - Our procedure for out-of-date pages is this, the log of removed
   pages is here.
 - We have a translation robot that is working this way
 - To add a new CSS discuss that on debian-www


I really think that we can work together with the release
cycle (imagining that it would take 18-24 -- x2 would mean 36-48
months), to have visual changes in the website, or to have
milestones being achieved.

Portuguese is someway behind in translations, so I'm
checking a lot of original documents, while I'm at this I see a
lot of things, specially wrong tags and unclosed ones, I would
like to know if we can start commiting changes to fix whole
pages, not sure if we can do that with smart_change, but I can
try.


=
About Who's using Debian and CD Vendors
=

It would be possible to have a very minimal system to take
care of those submissions, I think it would help a lot people doing
this job to keep track of what was already included and what still
needs to be done, the system could even send e-mails to -www-cvs.

Could it be written in PHP/Perl using a sqlite database?

NOTE: I wrote this a while ago, but it seems that it is now handle
  by Request Tracker or other way, not sure, my main idea was
  to remove it from the list and make it something like RT, so
  we can track what is pending and what is not pending.



These are first ideas, I would like to hear from people
that are also contributing to the webwml, once we can have some
feedback on this issue, I'm volunteering myself to start working
on the english pages, probably by section in order to have
weekly changes and aiming to achieve a point where we can easily
handle graphical/visual changes.

I really think that we need to first change a couple of
core structures in the (X)HTML code and CSS and after we can
work on the logical and structural areas of the website. IMHO,
it is a long term goal for at least 6 months of improving the
underlayer until we can easier change our web face. :-)


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Re: RSA key on cvs.debian.org changed?

2007-05-22 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 05/21/2007 04:59 PM, Eduardo Trápani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was trying to commit a change and I got a warning about the RSA key
 for cvs.debian.org being different than the one I had before.

Strange, I used it without any warnings.


 Just in case, before I login, I wanted to check if something had
 changed.  I did look the machines page but cvs is not listed and from
 the DNS query I couldn't tell if it was (supposed to be) a CNAME.
 
 Thanks, Eduardo.

I hope this helps.
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Re: Problem with menu and navbar in French translation of the main page

2007-04-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 04/29/2007 05:50 PM, Jens Seidel wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:43:06AM +0200, Frédéric Bothamy wrote:
 I have noticed that on the French translation of the main page
 (http://www.debian.org/index.fr.html), the left menu and the navbar are
 not translated any more.

 Does anyone know if something recently changed on www-master (maybe some
 locales were changed?) ?
 
 Maybe it was already updated to Etch?
 
 Probably fr_FR.iso88591 is no longer a supported locale. Can someone
 check the output of locale -a?
 
 I also noticed that the last DSA such as DSA-1281 and DSA-1282 are
 missing on the homepage. The year in it is right ...
 
 Jens

Just for the record, it also happened to Portuguese, sidebar
and topbar are in English.

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Re: -www-cvs is silent?

2007-03-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 03/15/2007 06:59 AM, Jens Seidel wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:49:58PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
 wrote:
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 Hi everybody,

  Is it just me, or -www-cvs is silent for a few days?

  Last message I got was from 05.mar.2007.
 
 Thanks for reminding me ...
 
 I noticed this too and assumed I just got unsubscribed because of
 bounced mails. I subscribed already twice after this but still got no
 commit messages so it seems indeed to be a problem somewhere ...

Ok, so let's copy our beloved admins! :-)

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Re: -www-cvs is silent?

2007-03-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 03/15/2007 03:17 PM, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 15 March 2007 15:19, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 On 03/15/2007 06:59 AM, Jens Seidel wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:49:58PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel 
 (faw) wrote:
Is it just me, or -www-cvs is silent for a few days?
Last message I got was from 05.mar.2007.
 Thanks for reminding me ...

 I noticed this too and assumed I just got unsubscribed because of
 bounced mails. I subscribed already twice after this but still got no
 commit messages so it seems indeed to be a problem somewhere ...
  Ok, so let's copy our beloved admins! :-)
 
 The cause was in the mailing list setup; mails were being assassinated.
 This has now been resolved and old mails will be reinjected in a few hours 
 (so stand by for some flooding of your mailboxes).

Wow! That's cool! Thanks Frans.


 No action from DSA needed on this one.

Someday, I will learn all the ninja magic involved in our
infrastructure and will not bother the wrong people. Sorry DSA. ;)


 Cheers,
 FJP

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-www-cvs is silent?

2007-03-14 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi everybody,

Is it just me, or -www-cvs is silent for a few days?

Last message I got was from 05.mar.2007.


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Problems regarding a CD vendor (was: Re: problemas com Allan Taborda.)

2007-02-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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[ To debian-cd, more info in english on the end of this message ]

Cyrano,

A debian-cd é uma lista em inglês. Se tiver problemas para
utilizar este idioma você pode contatar a [1]lista de traduções
onde podemos ajudá-lo a traduzir sua mensagem.

  1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese


Abaixo segue um resumo traduzido para que o pessoal da
debian-cd (e debian-www) possam se manifestar.


On 02/24/2007 07:15 PM, Cyrano . wrote:
 Olá gente.
 
 Eu, através da lista de fornecedores de cds do Debian, entrei em
 contato com o primeiro da lista, o Allan Taborda dos Santos.
 
 URL: http://br.geocities.com/irmaodamara/
 URL da página Debian: http://br.geocities.com/irmaodamara/debian.htm
 Contribuem com o Debian: Não País: Brasil
 Entrega internacional: Não
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tipo de CD: CD Oficial
 Arquiteturas:  i386
 
 
 Pedi a ele, e paguei adiantado na segunda-feira da semana antes do
 carnaval, pelo envio de 14 cds do repositório do Debian 3.1 estável.
 Não recebi os cds ainda, ele me enviou um código errado de
 rastreamento dos correios, e me responde que não vai se
 responsabilizar por nenhum erro, além de dizer que todos os que
 encomendaram cds sempre receberam sem problemas.
 
 Estou entrando em contato com vocês pois acho que esse Allan não me
 enviou foi nada. Se eu não receber os cds essa semana, vou reenviar
 esta mensagem para vocês e confirmarei o golpe do Allan, para que
 vocês o retirem da lista. Aliás, talvez fosse melhor substituir o nome
 dele por um aviso para não comprar com ele.
 
 Espero o apoio de vocês.
 
 Com cara de tacho,
 cyrano.


Cyrano is complaining that he bought 14 CDs of Debian 3.1
(stable) from Allan Taborda (a listed CD vendor) on the week of
February 12th, 2007. Cyrano explains that he had paid in advance
and Allan sent a tracking code that doesn't work. Cyrano also
pointed that he contacted Allan and got a reply telling that
everybody always got the CDs and that Allan would not take
responsability of any mistakes.

Considering that, Cyrano thinks that Allan didn't sent
anything to him and is waiting the CDs this week. If he didn't
got it he will contact debian-cd once again to confirm the problem
and to request the removal of Allan from our CD vendor list. Cyrano
also commented that he thinks the best would be replace Allan's
name with a note recommending to not buy from him.


I already pointed to Cyrano that both debian-cd and
debian-www are english maillist and if he need any help he
can contact debian-l10n-portuguese.


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Re: new location of l10n stuff?

2006-10-20 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

On 10/20/2006 12:05 PM, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 The lessoften cronjob currently tries to download data from
 http://people.debian.org/~pmachard/l10n/material/data/
 which is a link to http://people.debian.org/~barbier/l10n/material/data/
 which is not available anymore.

The i18n Task Force is working to make the files available,
we are almost ready with the new server, just waiting a couple of
tests, it should be announced in the next couple of days.


 Does anyone know where the material is now or what needs to be done
 to make it available again?

It should be available under i18n.debian.net. The details
of impacts and locations would be included in the announcement.
Sorry for the delay and problems.


 Gruesse,

Kind regards,

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Re: www.it.debian.org shutdown

2006-09-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Droping Marco d'Idri.

On 09/24/2006 05:21 PM, Tobias Toedter wrote:
 On Sunday 24 September 2006 15:50, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 
Please remove www.it.debian.org from the DNS and from the dropbox on the
pages, it will be shut down in a few days.
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've removed the entry for Italy from the dropdown box on the webpages. 
 Thank you for having provided that mirror.

It should be automagically removed right? I mean, when
Mirror Team removes it, it should be removed from all places and
also from translations, or some action from translators is needed?


 Regards,
 Tobias

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Re: Website translation without pserver access

2006-08-03 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/31/2006 01:30 PM, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Sunday 30 July 2006 04:26, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 
  Is there a way to non-DDs to update the webwml tree (or get tarballs
like Raphael did for debian-admin)?
 
 I have made tarballs available on:
 http://people.debian.org/~fjp/webwml/
 
 See the text at the bottom of that page for further information.

Thanks Frans. :)


PS: Will I get flamed if I ask why webwml does not use SVN? :-)
 
 No. I think this is a latent wish that a lot of people have. The main 
 blocker is probably that it is a _lot_ of work:
 - convert the CVS repo to SVN (probably the easy part)
 - convert any scripts that check/update versions
 - convert the build infrastructure
 - convert the scripts that produce translation statistics
 - make sure that commit messages and emails are still sent to interested
   parties
 - minimize the time no updates are possible due to the conversion
 - whatever I've forgotten
 
 So all it needs is a dedicated volunteer who has loads of spare time, is 
 willing to make a conversion plan and work with the various people 
 involved.

Thanks for the outline Frans. Now I have some ideas about that. :)

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Re: Seeking an update about the situation for non-DDs working on the website

2006-07-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi Kaare, (sorry for the top-post)

I'm just replying here as a forward service to DSA
(debian-admin) and DPL, so we can have news from them. ;)

Kind regards,


On 07/30/2006 06:45 PM, Kaare Olsen wrote:
 Is an update about what's being done to rectify the situation for 
 non-DDs working on the website forthcoming?  Is there's anything
 we can do to help speed up the process getting pserver or an
 alternative up and running?
 
 I feel left out in the dark like a second-rate citizen, with no 
 official statement when/if non-DDs will get CVS access to webwml
 again.  It may be due to the admins involved being busy restoring
 services, but I have no way to tell.
 
 Maybe it's time for me to get into the new maintainer queue, 
 although I hope the situation will have improved long before I
 get to the final stage. :-)

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Who is using Debian (was: Re: Quem est usando debian?)

2006-07-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Translating, because debian-www is an English list. :-)
#

Name of organization (in the form of division, organization, country). An 
example is: AI Lab, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA

Not all entries are in this form yet, but we'd like to convert the ones which 
aren't.
# Organization type (educational, non-profit, commercial, government)
# (optional) Home page link
# A paragraph or two describing how your organization uses Debian. Try to 
include details such as the number of workstations/servers, the software they 
run, and
why you chose Debian over the competition.

On 07/28/2006 10:55 AM, Lorscheider Santiago wrote:
Name of the organization:
 SANTIAGO ENGENHARIA LTDA, BRASIL

Organization type:
 COMMERCIAL

Home page:
 http://www.santiagoengenharia.com.br

Details:
 Temos um proxy internet e um servidor de email. usamos debian pela sua
 estabilidade e segurança.

We have an internet proxy and an e-mail server. We use Debian because
of its stability and security.



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Re: login problem

2006-07-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/29/2006 05:39 PM, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Saturday 29 July 2006 22:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I guess it's something related to compromised gluck these days.. but I
saw in the www mail list there is commits even today, so somebody can
login.. Does anybody knows what happens with the pserver?
 
 
 pserver access was disabled by the system admins after the compromise. The 
 commits that you see are done by official developers who can commit over 
 SSH instead of pserver.
 
 It is unknown if and when pserver commits will be possible again.
 
 In the mean time you can send changed files (e.g. in a gzipped tarball) to 
 this list with a request that someone who does have access commits it.

Is there a way to non-DDs to update the webwml tree (or get tarballs
like Raphael did for debian-admin)?


Kind regards,


PS: Will I get flamed if I ask why webwml does not use SVN? :-)
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debian-www pserver access (was: Re: debian-admin CVS, tarballs available)

2006-07-24 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/24/2006 06:00 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 24 July 2006 22:28, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 And since the web interface [1] also doesn't provide any nice way to
 download the content of the repository I just hacked a little script
 that I've put in my crontab on gluck: it checkouts (in read-only mode)
 the various repositories and generate a tarball:
 http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/cvs-debian-admin/

Wouldn't it make sense to also announce this on d-www and d-i18n?
 
 The webwml repository is available via pserver (cf
 /org/cvs.debian.org/cvs-pserver.conf) so I don't see a reason to provide
 the same service to other CVS repositories.
[...]

Is it? I'm not a DD and I tried to make a checkout two minutes ago
and it didn't work out. Removing pserver on the webwml would make it really
hard for translators (at least portuguese team, we have more non-DDs and it
would overload the DDs).

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[webwml] wml://webml/portuguese/Bugs/Reporting.wml

2006-07-24 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

Somebody with ssh access could please commit the attached file?

webwml/portuguese/Bugs/Reporting.wml


Thanks in advance, kind regards,

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#use wml::debian::template title=Debian BTS - relatando bugs NOHEADER=yes NOCOPYRIGHT=true
#use wml::debian::translation-check translation=1.47

h1Como relatar um bug no Debian/h1

h2Pontos importantes a serem considerados strongantes/strong de enviar/h2

pPor favor, não relate diversos bugs não relacionados - especialmente
em pacotes diferentes - em um único relatório de bug. Você torna nossa
vida muito mais fácil se enviá-los em relatórios separados.

pVocê deve checar se seu relatório de bug já não foi preenchido por
outra pessoa antes de enviá-lo. Listas de bugs atuais estão disponíveis
a href=./na World Wide Web/a e a href=Accessem outros locais/a
- consulte outros documentos para detalhes. Você pode enviar seus comentários
para um relatório de bug existente #varlt;númerogt;/var enviando
uma mensagem para varlt;númerogt;/var@bugs.debian.org/p

pCaso você não consiga determinar qual pacote contém o problema, por
favor envie uma mensagem para a a href=mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org
lista de discussão dos usuários Debian/a pedindo por ajuda. Caso seu
problema não esteja relacionado somente a um pacote mas a algum serviço
geral do Debian, existem diversos a href=pseudo-packagespseudo-pacotes/a
ou mesmo a href=../MailingLists/listas de discussão/a que
você pode usar para transmitir sua mensagem para nós.

pCaso você prefira enviar uma cópia de seu relatório de bug para
destinatários adicionais (como listas de discussão), você não deverá
usar os cabeçalhos de e-mail tradicionais, mas sim
a href=#xccum método diferente, descrito abaixo/a./p


h2Enviando o relatório de bug usando uma ferramenta automática para relatar bugs/h2

pO programa
codea href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/reportbug;reportbug/a/code
pode facilmente preencher os relatórios guiando você passo-a-passo através do
processo para relatar bugs.
A ferramenta kbdquerybts/kbd, disponível no mesmo pacote do
a href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/reportbug;reportbug/a,
fornece uma interface em texto amigável para o sistema de acompanhamento
de bugs./p

pUsuários do Emacs podem também usar o comando debian-bug fornecido
pelo pacote codea href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/debian-el;\
debian-el/a/code. Quando chamado com o comando kbdM-x
debian-bug/kbd, as informações necessárias lhe serão questionadas de
uma maneira similar ao programa codereportbug/code./p


h2Enviando o relatório de bug via e-mail/h2

pEnvie mensagens para
a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]code[EMAIL PROTECTED]/code/a,
como descrito abaixo./p

pÉ claro, como em qualquer mensagem, você deve incluir uma linha de
codeAssunto/code clara e descritiva no cabeçalho principal.
O assunto que você definir será usado como o título inicial
do bug no sistema de acompanhamento, portanto tente utilizar algo
informativo!/p

pVocê precisa colocar um a name=pseudoheaderpseudo-cabeçalho/a no
início do corpo da mensagem. Isto significa que a primeira linha do corpo
da mensagem deve conter:

pre
Package: lt;nome-do-pacotegt;
/pre

pSubstitua codelt;nome-do-pacotegt;/code pelo nome do pacote que
possui o bug.

pA segunda linha da mensagem deve conter:

pre
Version: lt;versão-do-pacotegt;
/pre

pSubstitua codelt;versão-do-pacotegt;/code pela versão do pacote.
Por favor, não inclua aqui qualquer texto que não seja a própria
versão, já que o sistema de acompanhamento de bugs se baseia neste
campo para determinar quais qreleases/q são afetadas pelo bug.

pVocê precisa informar uma linha codePackage/code correta no
pseudo-cabeçalho para que o sistema de acompanhamento de bugs entregue
a mensagem para o mantenedor do pacote. Consulte
a href=#findpkgvereste exemplo/a para informações sobre como
encontrar essa informação.

pOs campos de pseudo-cabeçalhos devem iniciar bem no começo de suas
linhas./p

pPor favor inclua em seu relatório:

ul
liO texto emexato/em e emcompleto/em de quaisquer mensagens
impressas ou gravadas (qlog/q). Isto é muito importante!
liExatamente o que você digitou ou fez para demonstrar o problema.
liUma descrição do comportamento incorreto: exatamente qual
comportamento você estava esperando e o que você observou. Uma transcrição
de uma sessão de exemplo é uma boa maneira de mostrar isso.
liUma correção sugerida, ou até mesmo um patch, caso você tenha preparado
um.
liDetalhes da configuração do programa com o problema. Inclua o texto
completo dos arquivos de configuração do programa em questão.
liAs versões de

Re: Doação e Revenda

2006-07-14 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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To debian-www:

Marcos is talking about mirroring CD images and selling CDs,
donating part of the money to Debian. He is also offering space for
ISO downloads and he wants to do that in a very transparent way.
I'm explaining to him what the list is about, how to proceed, and
pointing links for more information.


Olá Marcos,

A debian-www pode ser utilizada para que você seja adicionado
como um dos revendedores de CD. No entanto você precisa enviar suas
mensagens em inglês (se precisar de ajuda nesta parte me contate em
PVT).

Para ser adicionado como Vendedor de CD:

http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding.pt.html
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding

Para fazer espelho da imagens de CD:

http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/index.pt.html
http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/


On 07/14/2006 03:03 PM, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito wrote:
 Senhores sou um usuario Linux.
 Estou trabalhando em site, onde pretendo alem de vender hospedagem e
 outros,
 quero também divulga o linux e da apoio, da seguinte forma, oferecendo
 espaço para as imagens iso, e também revenda de cd's ja pronto, sendo
 cobrado apenas o valor de cd, frete, uma pequena porcentegem pelo serviço
 (energia, depreciação, impresso ...), e uma outra para ser repassada a
 intituiçõe linux debian.

As doações oficiais para o Debian podem ser feitas para a SPI,
você também pode doar para a conta do Debian no Brasil para a ASL.org.


 Tudo feito da forma mais clara posivel, com prestação de contas on line

Fico feliz em saber do seu interesse, se quiser trocar idéias
em português me contate, sinta-se a vontade para falar diretamente
com o projeto Debian através do e-mail debian-project@lists.debian.org,
é uma lista de discussão em inglês voltada para o Projeto.


A debian-www cuida das páginas web, por isso podemos adicioná-lo
como vendedor de CDs, mas itens além desde vão demandar outros cuidados.
Em tempo, há um interesse grande da comunidade brasileira em ter alguém
que venda CDs e cuide da logística e reverta uma parte deste dinheiro
para o Debian no Brasil.

Abraço,

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Re: debian.org doesn't work

2006-07-12 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/12/2006 12:14 PM, Yuriy Padlyak wrote:
 Hello somebody!
 All day I thought debian.org is down, then in the evening I tried
 www.debian.org ... no! it works!

Thanks for the information. :-)


 Is it OK?

Yes. Some of our servers are under maintainance, you should
try a mirror close to you, use a two letter country code, like:

http://www.xx.debian.org


Replace xx with br (Brasil) or de (Germany).

Kind regards,

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Re: debian.org doesn't work

2006-07-12 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/12/2006 12:14 PM, Yuriy Padlyak wrote:
 Hello somebody!
 All day I thought debian.org is down, then in the evening I tried
 www.debian.org ... no! it works!

Thanks for the information. :-)


 Is it OK?

Yes. Some of our servers are under maintainance, you should
try a mirror close to you, use a two letter country code, like:

http://www.xx.debian.org


Replace xx with br (Brasil) or de (Germany).

Kind regards,

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Re: Debian Vendors

2006-07-10 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/10/2006 08:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I was wondering if you would kindly add our website to your United 
 Kingdom CD vendor list.

Hi, you should send your message to debian-www. I'm copying them,
please wait a few days until we check and add you site to our CD Vendors
page.


 Vendor: Linux Disks
 URL: http://www.linuxdisks.co.uk
 URL for Debian Page: 
 http://linuxdisks.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7
 Allows Contribution to Debian: No  Country: United Kingdom
 Ship International: No
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 CD Type: Official CD
 DVD Type: Official DVD
 Architectures:  i386
 
 I would really appreciate it if you added us and feel that this will 
 help distribute debian to users in the UK.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ian Holloway
 Linux Disks


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Re: In tags like abbr, which language code to use?

2006-07-05 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 07/05/2006 03:21 AM, Jens Seidel wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 12:36:31AM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
 wrote:
  In one of the translation I'm doing, I found:

  abbr lang=en title=original equipment manufacturerOEM/abbr


  Which language code should I use for Brazilian Portuguese?

  pt-br or pt_BR? Or just pt?
 
 None of the above, except this is also a Portuguese abbreviation :-)
 As far as I understand it, it should stay

Hmmm... I checked to other team and I had different results:

French Team translated it, and change the tag to lang=fr.
http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/sys_types.fr.html

Spanish Team didn't translated it, and keep the tag with lang=en.
http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/sys_types.es.html


 abbr lang=en title=original equipment manufacturerOEM/abbr

I translated it and I tried to use q/q inside and it didn't
work, I just commit a fix, but the main question is the language code:

abbr lang=pt title=fabricante de equipamento original (qoriginal 
equipment manufacturer/q)OEM/abbr
abbr lang=pt title=fabricante de equipamento original (original equipment 
manufacturer)OEM/abbr)


 since OEM is English. BTW it should be acronym, it's not an abbreviation!??
 The language code could be used by speech synthesis software.

H, I added Portuguese and keep the English information,
and I'm still not sure about what I should do. Keep only the
English version or translated it. :|


 See http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/abbr.html for details.

I checked the website htmlediting page (thanks for the link).

http://www.debian.org/devel/website/htmlediting#abbreviations


And I agree that it should be an acronym, I just translated it
and bring the discussion here so we can figure out what we should do.
:-)


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In tags like abbr, which language code to use?

2006-07-04 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

In one of the translation I'm doing, I found:

abbr lang=en title=original equipment manufacturerOEM/abbr


Which language code should I use for Brazilian Portuguese?

pt-br or pt_BR? Or just pt?


Kind regards,

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Debian CD Vendor (luatec) (was: Re: ALTA VENDEDOR DEBIAN)

2006-07-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

Sergio is asking to be listed as vendor. I'm just adding
the english information, hope this helps.


On 07/02/2006 02:01 PM, Sergio Suarez wrote:
 Hola me gustaria aparecer como vendedor Debian
 
Name: Nombre: Luatec
URL: URL: http://www.luatec.com
 Donare parte de los beneficios a Debian

Donates to Debian: yes


CD Type: Tipo de cd: Imagenes oficiales Debian
Country: Pais: España
 Se haran envios internacionales

International Deliveries: yes


 URL Debian: http://www.luatec.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: Arquitectura i386

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