Re: Inconsistency on translated pages links.
no Javascript is a requirement There is no problem at all with using javascript however there should ALWAYS be an alternative in case the user doesnt have javascript enabled. This isn't too hard to implement in most cases as the no script tag can be used. James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Improvements of the website
Hi, Personally i think it would be better if the content of the site was split up. There are basically two types of people that use the debian website; end users and developers/contributers. There reasons for going to the site are completely different, so why not have two seperate sites? This would mean that debian.org would contain all the content for people who are un-tech savvy and would only contain content such as stable distributions, untechnical news (new software etc), security advice in a user friendly way, software downloads, basic documentation etc. The point im trying to make is that this site should contain only the information that an end user is interested in and they shouldn't have to wade through development talk in order to get what they want. I also think that the content on the site is too technical for the average user and would put many people off using debian. I propose that the users site is more like (dare is say it) microsofts website. The second site would use the subdomain developers.debian.org and would contain all the current content which a developer would want. The method behind my madness is that not many un-techyend user would want to download an unstable version of debian and therefore the link is pointless,clutters the page and confuses the user. Also no end user would want to see the development documentation and again is unneccesary. By providing the end user with all these extra links simply poses a risk of them downloading wrong content e.g. unstable releases and makes the whole 'debian experience' over complicated. I hope this makes sense, i know its a drastic measure but personally i think it would help make end users more at home. The current website i feel would put off new users as its over complicated. Thanks James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Improvements of the website
Hi, I have made a quick proposal for my 'two sites' idea. The link is below. http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/debian_two_sites_proposal.pdf The document is by no means exhaustive however i thought it would help some people better understand the idea. Thanks James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Improvements of the website
I think what was trying to be said is that for the end user information should be presented in a more user friendly and less technical way. Most end users wouldnt have a clue what the 'DSA-1278man-db vulnerability' is and may frankly just ignore it. I agree users should be educated about security updates but not to the point that they understand bug numbers etc. Personally i believe the end users should have a seperate site where security vulnerabilities should be listed with meaningful names such as 'Open Office Update - Critical' or something less in-depth. By having seperate sites for end users and developers you can have user firendly details such as this for end users yet still keep the level of detailed required for developers. James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Website Designs
Based on some of the criticisms I have made some quick changes to the design and have also made a quick mockup for the about debian page. This should show what the general content pages would look like. The links down the right hand side (related links) will be expandable so to conserve space and hide less common menu items from users who dont need them. I have kept the CD graphic for now as although i know that Debian dont directly sell CD's i struggled to find another suitable graphic. Any ideas for this graphic is welcome? perhaps a screenshot of the debian desktop??? Accessibility is obviously an issue however there are plenty of modern sites using lots of images that still manage to be accessible! All the sites i build conform to XHTML 1.0 strict and CSS 2.0. I also have experience of making sites work with screen readers and text only browsers and understand that this is a high priority for the site. As for producing an XHTML mockup this would come at a later stage where the design has been decided (if we reach that stage). the two new mockups are here: http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/about.html http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/ James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Website Designs
I've done some quick research into colour blind site design and from what i have found have been able to adapt my site designs to what a colour blind user would see. The only colour that seems to change is the pink because most of the time greys arent affected. unfortunately i couldnt change the logo to show the colour changes because i don't have the original file but this isnt really important. The definitions of each type of colour blindness is shown below along with a link to how this type of person would see my site. Deuteranopia is insensitivity to green. http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/index-Deuteranope.html Protanopia is insensitivity to red. http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/index-Protanope.html Tritanopia is very rare and is insensitivity to blue. http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/index-Tritanope.html The only slight problem at the moment is with the 'YES' and 'NO' links on the top bar with the deuteranopia design. My first idea for solving this could be to have the links on a contrasting background colour such as white. Does anyone else have any ideas? James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website Designs
Hi all, I've come up with a quick mockup design for the debian homepage, what does everyone think? http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/ constructive criticism welcome! Regards, James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Website Designs
Thanks, I have made the logo larger and also removed the 'welcome to...' text. I also made the text on the menu pure black as opposed to changing the font size to make them stand out more. Is anyone thinking of taking charge of the redesign of the debian website? I have seen a couple of posts about new designs etc but no one really seems to be managing whats going on. Is there anyone in particular i need to contact? James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
