Re: Re: Re: Using Cloudflare as CDN for debian.org website
On 15439 March 1977, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: How on earth do you consider that to even remotely be an advantage? We *want* the website to be usable to everyone, not just to human beings. So, if we want to make debian.org usable and accessible to everyone, even allowing bots (search engine indexers and web archivers), while still being benefit from Cloudflare CDN, don't use reCAPTCHA challenge page. Free tier from Cloudflare will be enough, since the tier comes without the challenge page. And still, a CDN like cloudflare gives us nothing that we need, and doesn't solve the existing problems our web part has, so why should we switch to it? -- bye, Joerg
Re: Migration to Salsa
On 15011 March 1977, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: >> Thats the role account archvsync, used on debian machines to mirror >> stuff. Mostly the archive, but it also contains(contained) code to >> mirror website stuff. > Does this mean that it's an account only needed in Alioth and we don't need to > do anything about it in Salsa? I don't think it should end up with write access. Anyone who can access this role account can use their own accounts to write into www repos, if needed. That is, unless some automated process commits something there, which I'm not sure off right now. It would be some mirror listing thingie or so, but then we probably should look for a better way of integrating this data (like fetching it at website build time). >> I sometimes (not very often) commit some changes in organization.data >> stuff. Would be nice if i can do that in future too. > Added your account as "developer". When the migration of the webwml repo is > finished, you'll be able to commit there. Thanks. -- bye, Joerg
Re: Migration to Salsa
On 15011 March 1977, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > * There is one "member" in Alioth-debwww project that I couldn't add: > "Archive Replicatoin" https://alioth.debian.org/users/archvsync/ - Does > anybody have a hint about why is it needed and how could we add it in > Salsa? (Or who I have to ask to create that account) Thats the role account archvsync, used on debian machines to mirror stuff. Mostly the archive, but it also contains(contained) code to mirror website stuff. > * We currently have >250 members in Alioth webwml (with commit > permissions in webwml). I didn't add them yet to the webwml group in > Salsa, because there is no repo in > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/webmaster-team/webwml yet. As adding > people is a manual process and probably I'll not be able to do it in one > pass, I think I will add people as I see them commit in the current > webwml repo. Please be vocal if you consider that we should handle this > in another way. I sometimes (not very often) commit some changes in organization.data stuff. Would be nice if i can do that in future too. -- bye, Joerg
Re: packages.d.o: changelogs and ftp-master.metadata.d.o
On 13198 March 1977, Simon Paillard wrote: > --> On dak side, is it possible to extract metadata for binary packages, under > $src/$binary_pkg/$version/changelog ? Should be. > Questions now: > * transparent proxy, permanent or permanent redirect, should > ftp-master.metadata appear to user ? apache, permanent redirect, should be best. > * maybe fit metadata url scheme to the one used previously by packages.d.o ? > (see url difference below ?) It will ease update of programs that used to > download changelogs from PDO. Don't see why? > (Non working ATM) packages.d.o URL > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/v/vim/vim_7.3.547-7/changelog > ftp-master URL > http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/v/vim/vim_7.3.547-7_changelog > --> On dak side, is it possible to fit to the historical URL scheme ? (Please > coordinate for the change) We could, but what do we gain? pdo can get a apache redirect (I look into that later), then users don't care. Tools should use the filelist.yaml we provide to find files (and as such links) for their usage / if they want to verify they are there before setting a link. > HTML format > === > Packages.d.o used to provide html-ised changelogs, with anchors to specific > versions, based on libparse-debianchangelog-perl. > As keeping packages.d.o generating the html would not be very logical, some > python code will need to be written for that. Thats on todo for us already, yes. Should appear additionally besides the existing files. If someone else wants to look, in dak.git its dak/make_changelog.py -- bye, Joerg * libpng2 no libpng3 no why ? because no yes no yes no yes bullshit no yes no yes no yes stop ? no when someday beep beep beep beep (Closes: #157011) -- Christian Marillat Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:41:58 +0200 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fvy6osyp@gkar.ganneff.de
Re: Planet Debian dead links
On 12931 March 1977, Victor Nițu wrote: > I can repeat this test daily for 3-4 days, and then try to contact the > blog owners in order to update their own Planet entries, if that's OK. > With the risk of becoming known for my 404-phobia, I can try to take > care of any situation like this I may encounter. > You can run the test yourselves. Before that, I have to mention I > checked both the blog URLs and the feed URLs, so there may be only 8 > 404'd blogs. I plan to make some stats in 2-3 days from now on. At random intervals I go through planets logs and disable broken entries. I'm not sure doing much more is really worth the effort, though I won't stop you. IMO having such checks on all the other websites of Debian, from www over qa packages to wherever is much more interesting than on a blog aggregator. -- bye, Joerg > 20. What would you do if you wanted to retire from the project? Remove the passphrase from the (secret) gpg key and post it to debian-devel. The keyring maintainers will lock the account ASAP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87628rwa4h@gkar.ganneff.de
Description-less packages file
Hello world, I don't know if I really got everyone who should have a copy of this mail in my CC list, so please forward it to wherever you think I am missing. Thanks. I just merged a patch from Ansgar to generate the Packages files without the English description embedded inside them. Instead they are now written into a new file, the "English Translation" file in "main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2". They thus appear alongside all other translated descriptions as "just another language". apt & co will (or should) just download those Translation files to show the description, as they do already for all other languages. This lets us save quite a bit of space on our mirrors by not repeating them as many times as we have architectures - and also enables non-English-speaking users (and eventually multi-arch enabled APT) to save on download size, as they no longer need to download a language that is of no use to them or is already there. As this is is a larger changeset we did not switch the official dists/ tree directly. Instead we are providing files generated in this way over at [1] for you to test with and report bugs you find in this implementation or in the handling of it in whatever tool breaks down. That location is updated right during dinstall so should always contain current information. Provided there are no showstoppers turning up we intend to switch the official dists/ tree one month from now. [1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/newdists/ -- bye, Joerg It’s not easy to juggle a pregnant wife and a troubled child, but somehow I managed to fit in eight hours of TV a day. pgp8UJrH8AiYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Planet Debian CSS adjustment
On 12540 March 1977, Paul Wise wrote:
> Ok, some more details:
Thanks.
> /* Make pre's wrap to the window */
> pre { white-space: normal ! important; }
> pre { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> pre { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
> code { white-space: normal ! important; }
> code { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> code { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
> tt { white-space: normal ! important; }
> tt { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> tt { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
Applied.
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remotely true!
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Re: Planet Debian CSS adjustment
On 12536 March 1977, Paul Wise wrote:
> I would like to commit this to the Planet Debian SVN repository since
> Planet Debian derivatives is currently very wide due to a blog post with
> a very long tag. Would that be ok for me to do?
We mainly have the Debian CSS on planet and should try to not get away
from that too much. But sometimes Now, Im no CSS expert, so dont
know if that is bad with the rest of the css we have (dont think so, but
who knows), so I CCed debian-www, so they can yell up if they think its
bad to do so. If not feel free to commit sometime this evening and poke
me on irc to update the site.
> --- www/common/planet.css (revision 1406)
> +++ www/common/planet.css (working copy)
> @@ -114,3 +114,14 @@
> #outer {
> margin-left: 10px;
> }
> +
> +/* Make pre's wrap to the window */
> +pre { white-space: normal ! important; }
> +pre { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> +pre { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
> +code { white-space: normal ! important; }
> +code { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> +code { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
> +tt { white-space: normal ! important; }
> +tt { white-space: -moz-pre-wrap ! important; }
> +tt { white-space: pre-wrap ! important; }
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Re: wiki.d.o: SummerOfCode2009/KDE-based-packagemanager (bis)
On 12190 March 1977, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > the wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009/KDE-based-packagemanager > could use some work, Why does a wiki page of a long-over event need to be edited? There does not seem to be a point to it. > but I can't easily edit it due to an edit restriction on my account > for this page set by Steve McIntyre in revision 18. > The restriction is commented by "Put the page back to where it has > been for a year. Philippe: why are you changing this after a year?". I > answered Steve's question and asked him to revert, but he declined: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2010/05/msg00044.html First, Sledge is a gsoc admin for debian, so his opinion does count double too. Second, he gives a pretty good reasoning why he did it: Your changes arent welcome. Simple as that, its a pretty easy "Go elsewhere, you are wrong here". There is a good link for you to reread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2009/04/msg5.html > Some improvements that should be made can be seen in the diff between > revisions 10 and 11. Would someone restore this version or remove the > access restriction so I can handle it? What does any change in a 2009 gsoc page gain anyone now? (And besides, "improvements" is a very biased opinion. Other people stated that its worse with it. -- bye, Joerg SUSE = Soll Unix Sein, Eigentlich. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762zyu0qd@delenn.ganneff.de
Re: [rt.debian.org #1484] move www.debian.org standby away from gluck to senfl
On 11787 March 1977, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Mirroradm, should syncing the webpage continue to be in > mirroradm/archvsync's domain? That is, do you want do maintain that > part? Debwww, what would you prefer? Having mirroradm do it or running > the stuff as debwww on both klecker and senfl? I wouldnt have a problem with having mirroradm also do this. It just wasnt clearly defined (or i didnt know it was) in the past to be so, so i touched it as less as possible. But its not that much work at all and easy enough to do, so fine for me to keep in mirroradm if -www agrees. -- bye, Joerg joshk: okay. I've manned a Debian booth before. I need to give you a quick training session. "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" "So, when's sarge going to be released?" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can not find Debian 4 download
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:19:13AM +0100, {Speed-Net} D. Jimenez wrote:
>>> I search the Debian 4 64bit for download. But i can not find it animore
>>> on our Website.
>>> Can you send me a link how i can find the old Debian 4 64bit version?
>> ftp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive>
>> @debian-www: Where should we make old ISOs more visible ?
> Is it really that invisible?
Yes.
> Home page
> -> Release info *or* "Read more about available versions of Debian."
> -> Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (etch)
> -> installation information
> ->
> http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/
> Installing Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r7
> which has direct links to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive.
Thats not the way you go if you look for CD (DVD) images...
"I want CDs"
-> www.debian.org
-> Getting Debian
-> Download via [whatever] -> http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/
Tells you nothing about older releases. Not even a single link to a site
that might.
Following "CD ISO images" leads to http://www.debian.org/CD/ which is
similar unhelpful.
This UI not usage good site. Or so.
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Re: mirror.debian.org
> I chowned the entire directory to archvsync:mirroradm. there is an > orig-ownership if you are curiuous. there also is an orig-cron from the > debwww crontab that mirroradm needs to run now - I didn't do that, > please add it yourself. Great. > Josip, the dns stuff cronjob should probably also be moved to > archvsync's crontab. Yep, sounds good. -- bye, Joerg [..] trying to avoid extra dependencies on gnumeric is like trying to plug one hole in the titantic with a bit of tissue paper" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mirror.debian.org
Heya, any objections if /org/mirror.debian.org on klecker is changed to allow mirroradm people to deal with it? (Ie. moved over to our group account, files and cronjob). It's meant for the mirror people anyway, and now uses outdated old code that doesn't work anymore with some changes we mirror people did lately. And I would like to fix that, and possible future things too. Alternatively, if you want to keep it owned by debwww - can I get into the debwww group? Whatever you prefer, I just want to be able to fix it :) -- bye, Joerg [Es geht doch nichts ueber deutsche Uebersetzungen] hurd:/# updatedb hurd:/# /servers/socket/2: Der Übersetzer ist gestorben -- Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgppwRQOJd9DQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: conversion to subversion
On 11335 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote: > What offline operation does svn have now? I thought it only worked > offline properly with things like git-svn. svk. -- bye, Joerg "Das Internet, jetzt auf 47 DVDs - oder auf 2 CDs in der jugenfreien Fassung"? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#468765: Is oldstable security support duration something to be proud of?
On 11320 March 1977, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > This statement is in a security announcement. Martin Schulze confirmed that > he > wrote the statement. Does the security team think that oldstable security > support duration is something to be proud of? Yes, it is, and people visiting the Debian booth at Cebit confirmed that multiple times. (Not with such direct words, but they did talk about the long support for a stable release with security and stuff together with the mostly easy upgrades we have...). We are one of the Distribution having a long running and good support, if one does objective comparisons, which aren't based on one single number (years) only but take other things, like package numbers, architectures and also status of the security team (unpaid vs paid members in the distributions) into account. If it really annoys you so much that its no longer supported after March 31st - noone stops you from doing the work and providing security support for sarge in an archive you set up for it. I bet you will be surprised by the huge amount of work it will be. -- bye, Joerg Some NM: FTBFS = first time build from source, [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317102: please add a link to the status of the NEW queue
On 10342 March 1977, Matthias Klose wrote: > Frank Lichtenheld writes: >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:56:11PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> > Package: www.debian.org >> > A link from www.debian.org/devel to >> > http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html> > would be useful. >> Is this now the final location? >> We had it on ftp-master, developers.skolelinux, people, and qa. >> Is it final this time? > I don't know. Location told by Joerg Jaspert. It is the one made by ftpmasters, so yes, this is the final location. There are others doing similar lists from merkel, but they are always outdated... -- bye Joerg Some NM: Essential packages are required to provide all of their core functionality even when unconfigured, hence they cannot require libc. Libc therefore is not an essential package. pgpgVLFzWA7eg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?
On 10298 March 1977, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > As some of you might know some time ago I created a web page for > listing information about licenses discussed by debian-legal > at http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ > Since this hasn't really worked out I propose to delete this stuff again > until someone comes up with a better idea how to better present the > work of debian-legal. > Comments, objections? I would love that page working (ie new license summaries added). Would, for some obscure license crap make my life easier if such a thing appears in NEW. :) But then it should be maintained, and I know that its impossible to get something useful out of -legal (except you define long threads as useful). -- bye Joerg kde und tastatur? passt doch nicht mit dem nutzerprofil "windepp" zusammen :) pgpyVSrpiAkBc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Translation Install-Manual into German
Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, there are parts of it. As far as I know Joerg Jaspert put some > efforts into it. Unfortunately he hasn't found the time yet to finish > it... I stopped, no time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is it now. -- bye Joerg Die dümmsten Hähne haben die dicksten Eier.
