Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
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Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
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Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
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Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 04:13:09PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Okay, so I went ahead and did this. Now /distrib/ no longer links to > the d-i mega-link-collection, and instead it links to those four pages, > each of which have their own link collection. It's still fairly consistent, > and the number of clicks is the same - maybe a bit more scrolling, but > that's not necessarily a bad thing. The documentation links are a bit > more visible. This looks great to me. Thanks! Javier signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 02:24:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:49:24AM -0800, David de Hilario Richards wrote: > > When I downloaded the DVD images on the url below I thought that I needed > > to download all 3 DVDs in order to install Debian etch. It seems that I > > was mistaken and only the 1st DVD is needed for the default install. > > > > I think that this puts off many people which think that they need to > > download 13GB worth of DVDs when only the first is really needed. > > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ > > This is supporting my earlier comments about /distrib/ and > /distrib/netinst... we went from too much obfuscation to too > little explanation :) > > I think we should modify /distrib/ so that it doesn't just link to > the megalomanic d-i dl page, but instead it should go like: > > * one item describing installations *without* network access, meaning: > /CD/http-ftp/ + /CD/torrent-cd/ + /CD/jigdo-cd/ [1] > * one item for installations *with* network access > link to /distrib/netinst/ Okay, so I went ahead and did this. Now /distrib/ no longer links to the d-i mega-link-collection, and instead it links to those four pages, each of which have their own link collection. It's still fairly consistent, and the number of clicks is the same - maybe a bit more scrolling, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The documentation links are a bit more visible. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:49:24AM -0800, David de Hilario Richards wrote: > When I downloaded the DVD images on the url below I thought that I needed > to download all 3 DVDs in order to install Debian etch. It seems that I > was mistaken and only the 1st DVD is needed for the default install. > > I think that this puts off many people which think that they need to > download 13GB worth of DVDs when only the first is really needed. > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ This is supporting my earlier comments about /distrib/ and /distrib/netinst... we went from too much obfuscation to too little explanation :) I think we should modify /distrib/ so that it doesn't just link to the megalomanic d-i dl page, but instead it should go like: * one item describing installations *without* network access, meaning: /CD/http-ftp/ + /CD/torrent-cd/ + /CD/jigdo-cd/ [1] * one item for installations *with* network access link to /distrib/netinst/ [1] This looks like a reiteration of /distrib/cd, but when done in the /distrib/ page, it won't be adding an extra step, which was why this was reverted over two years ago in http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/distrib/cd.wml?root=webwml&r1=1.5&r2=1.6&diff_format=h At the same time, we have two different approaches. The /distrib/ page needs to enable people to quickly get to a fair option. The /CD/ pages weren't designed for that, they were designed so that they present the entirety of options. So, that would need to be fixed up. * The http-ftp page concentrates on various options, and mirrors. For /distrib/, we just need a direct link to the stable CD/DVD images, linking /debian-cd/ directories is a bad idea (it leads to users wandering around). Links to mirrors are a secondary matter, because cdimage.d.o can usually take the beating. * The torrent-cd page is better, it links directly to the directories of 4.0_r1 etc. For /distrib/, we just need it to warn against downloading anything more than the first CD/DVD in any set. Or maybe just make it link just the first file. * The jigdo-cd page looks like a lost cause to me... it may even be inappropriate for /distrib/ linkage, because it's not nearly as straightforward as other options. It's similar to netboot. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD/DVD clarification suggestion on download page
Hello Debian web developers, First I would like to congratulate you for developing such a great OS, probably the best Linux distribution. I have 1 suggestion for you guys: When I downloaded the DVD images on the url below I thought that I needed to download all 3 DVDs in order to install Debian etch. It seems that I was mistaken and only the 1st DVD is needed for the default install. I think that this puts off many people which think that they need to download 13GB worth of DVDs when only the first is really needed. I think that you guys should include a big-sized comment about this in this web address below because I think that many people are downloading the smaller sized Ubuntu instead because of this. Actually, personally I tried Ubuntu first because of this reason but I didn't like it too much so I kept on trying 4 or 5 others until I finally decided to download the 13GB of Debian. According to distrowatch.org , Ubuntu has roughly 3 times as many users as you guys which is not fair, since Ubuntu comes from Debian. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Hope you guys will take my suggestion into account. Also, hoping to try the official release of the *BSD kernel version of Debian soon. Regards, David (An average computer user coming from Windows; sick of Windows viruses !)
