Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Simon Paillard]

Hi,

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:31:39AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Geoff Shang  [2010-06-21 10:58:25 CEST]:
[...]
> > All this notwithstanding, there are tickets open on the Squeeze release  
> > notes, which suggests that they exist somewhere and can be read.  So 
> > where are they?
> 
>  Which tickets do you refer to?
>  still
> is for lenny and I don't know of that it would have moved somewhere else
> for this release, the current one hasn't moved to the historical place
> yet -

(Mainly because most opened bugs against RN are applicable to both lenny and 
squeeze
RN.)

> actually I'm puzzled that it was moved to
> ddp/manuals/tags/release-notes/etch and not
> ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/etch, because this obviously is a
> strange place for something that potentially might get updated again.

Indeed, that is fixable.

>  Wolfgang, Simon, are you working on the release notes this time again?

In short, not for some weeks.

> It would be sweet to know the distinctive place for the release notes
> to pull for the website before work starts so that we won't get
> misrendered squeeze work in the lenny place or the other way round. :)

As said to Andrei, first apply fixed in bts, then we can branch for
squeeze.

While I started the preliminary work for squeeze release-notes in april,
my daily work has been very time and energy-consuming, so I did less
for Debian.

What is available as of now: 
* a TODO list / reminders at http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseNotes
* a set of tools to generated lenny-to-squeeze NEWS.debian diff over the
  archive, to be used as an input to release-notes
* Franklin tools, to diff package status between lenny and squeeze.

Franklin, I know you have many other tools not publicly advertised yet.
It would be interesting to add them to
http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseNotes

More on TODO:
* Test the current release-notes against current status of lenny and
squeeze (see
http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html
as well)

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Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[W. Martin Borgert]

Quoting "Gerfried Fuchs" :

 Wolfgang, ... are you working on the release notes this time again?


Unfortunately, this year I'm too busy with my real life job. Sorry!


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Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Andrei Popescu]

[CCd as you mentioned you are not subscribed]

On Lu, 21 iun 10, 11:58:25, Geoff Shang wrote:
 
> All this notwithstanding, there are tickets open on the Squeeze
> release notes, which suggests that they exist somewhere and can be
> read.  So where are they?

I assume you talk about the bugs with [SQUEEZE] (or similar) in the 
subject filed against the pseudo-package 'release-notes'.

They are there to document stuff that has to go into the squeeze release 
notes. Please feel encouraged to submit some as well if you encounter 
issues during lenny -> squeeze upgrades that you feel should be 
documented (as opposed to fixed).

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Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Gerfried Fuchs]

Hi!

* Geoff Shang  [2010-06-21 10:58:25 CEST]:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> They aren't ready yet and thus aren't generated now. This is mostly
>> because the freeze isn't in place yet and things might still change so
>> it's not clear what to put into there at this point in the development.
>
> Ok, I understand this.  The release notes page warns about this.

 Right. :)

> All this notwithstanding, there are tickets open on the Squeeze release  
> notes, which suggests that they exist somewhere and can be read.  So 
> where are they?

 Which tickets do you refer to?
 still
is for lenny and I don't know of that it would have moved somewhere else
for this release, the current one hasn't moved to the historical place
yet - actually I'm puzzled that it was moved to
ddp/manuals/tags/release-notes/etch and not
ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/etch, because this obviously is a
strange place for something that potentially might get updated again.

 Wolfgang, Simon, are you working on the release notes this time again?
I seem to remember that buxy "nominated" you to do it, I'm just not sure
about wether you picked up the ball that he threw your direction. It
would be sweet to know the distinctive place for the release notes to
pull for the website before work starts so that we won't get misrendered
squeeze work in the lenny place or the other way round. :)

 Thanks,
Rhonda
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Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Geoff Shang]

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:


Hello there!


Hi Rhonda.  Thanks for getting back to me.


I wanted to look at upgrading to Squeeze as it has some features I'm
interested in.  I went to
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes and found the list of
release notes for each supported platform.  But none of the links work,
they all come up 404.  An example link is
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/ia64/release-notes/

If I should be looking somewhere else for the Squeeze release notes,
please let me know.  Yes I realise they are probably incomplete but
they're probably the best source of info in one place I'm guessing.


They aren't ready yet and thus aren't generated now. This is mostly
because the freeze isn't in place yet and things might still change so
it's not clear what to put into there at this point in the development.


Ok, I understand this.  The release notes page warns about this.

All this notwithstanding, there are tickets open on the Squeeze release 
notes, which suggests that they exist somewhere and can be read.  So where 
are they?


Geoff.


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Re: Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Gerfried Fuchs]

Hello there!

* Geoff Shang  [2010-06-20 22:10:44 CEST]:
> Sorry, am not on the list.

 Thanks for the notice, sending a mail copy to you directly.

> I wanted to look at upgrading to Squeeze as it has some features I'm  
> interested in.  I went to  
> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes and found the list of 
> release notes for each supported platform.  But none of the links work,  
> they all come up 404.  An example link is  
> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/ia64/release-notes/
>
> If I should be looking somewhere else for the Squeeze release notes,  
> please let me know.  Yes I realise they are probably incomplete but  
> they're probably the best source of info in one place I'm guessing.

 They aren't ready yet and thus aren't generated now. This is mostly
because the freeze isn't in place yet and things might still change so
it's not clear what to put into there at this point in the development.

 Thanks for your interest, though!
Rhonda
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Mensch auch ein Privatleben haben sollte."
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Can't access Sqeeze release notes

[Geoff Shang]

Hi,

Sorry, am not on the list.

I wanted to look at upgrading to Squeeze as it has some features I'm 
interested in.  I went to 
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes and found the list of 
release notes for each supported platform.  But none of the links work, 
they all come up 404.  An example link is 
http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/ia64/release-notes/


If I should be looking somewhere else for the Squeeze release notes, 
please let me know.  Yes I realise they are probably incomplete but 
they're probably the best source of info in one place I'm guessing.


Thanks,
Geoff.


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