Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-11 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:34:24PM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote:
  Javier == Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 First off, the Euro sign is a detail as far as using Debian goes, even
 for European users.  It can probably be compared with generating
 characters like æ, ø, å, ä, ö, ü, ß, etc - except, of course, that it
 is a new sign.

Not really. These characters can be represented equally well in
most programs since they are part of the latin1 character set. The euro
character means changing character set which some programs do not yet
handle (for more info see the Debian Euro Manual)


  
 Second of all, the 'euro-support' package is not part of a stable (or
 even testing) distribution yet. 

Yes, I'm waiting for it to get into testing (hopefully in a week?)
and write the announcement.

 
 Third, having it on the front page permanently would make this a
 euro-centric distribution.  We want to keep the front page as generic
 as possible, no?

Well, there are more European developers than American :)
In any case, since it is an issue that affects quite a number of
our users (they will have to make/read documents with that 
character) I thought it was worth saying in the front page
we are euro-ready for some time (4 months after jan 2001)
like we already did with y2000 (we are y2000 compatible)

 
 Why not make some of the documentation from the 'euro-support' package
 available via the Debian web site as well, and then announce the
 explicit support (if any) like any other news event?
 
The documentation has been available on the web site for some
time, the package is only there for offline reading.

Euro support is not new in Debian, that's why I'm reluctant to
give out a news item. I would rather announce hey guys! Just in case you
wondered, Debian GNU/Linux is euro capable and provides support
for the euro character, for more information 

Regards

Javi



Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-11 Thread James A. Treacy
Let me repeat myself and what a few others have said:

This is newsworthy, since many (European) people will be interested in
it. Thus, it warrants a news item and the corresponding place it would
then receive on the front page (until enough other items are generated
that it is no longer displayed).

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Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:17:02AM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:20:58PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña 
 wrote:
  I'm currently compiling the euro-support package which has been some time 
  in experimental (waiting for bugs :) to move it to unstable. This package,
  however, due to the current problems in changing configuration files in 
  Debian
  easily (and my lack of time) is a documentation-only package (and a test
  script).
  
 If it's that important, make an announcement and send it to the people
 who can post to debian-announce (someone else will hopefully jump in
 here with who that is). It will then be posted on the web site.
 

Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too that this
should be shown prominently in the front web page...

Javi



Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-12-10 11:52]:
   Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too that this
 should be shown prominently in the front web page...

 I say go for it.

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Alfie [but - who am I to say that?]
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Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too that this
  should be shown prominently in the front web page...
  I say go for it.

I also feel it's an important issue. Many Debian users switching
currency and I guess most of them don't even know how to display the
character.

Jordi
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Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:54:23 +0100
Jordi Mallach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too that this
   should be shown prominently in the front web page...
   I say go for it.
 
 I also feel it's an important issue. Many Debian users switching
 currency and I guess most of them don't even know how to display the
 character.
I think an issue posted to debian-news would be enough (that will appear
on the front page) but I don't think an special link to debian's euro 
tutorial is needed, people will surely find their way into 
Support-Documentation

[]s!

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Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:52:51AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   I'm currently compiling the euro-support package which has been some 
   time 
   in experimental (waiting for bugs :) to move it to unstable. This package,
   however, due to the current problems in changing configuration files in 
   Debian
   easily (and my lack of time) is a documentation-only package (and a test
   script).
  
  If it's that important, make an announcement and send it to the people
  who can post to debian-announce (someone else will hopefully jump in
  here with who that is). It will then be posted on the web site.
 
   Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too that this
 should be shown prominently in the front web page...

I agree it deserves mention, but let's keep the excitement down to a normal
debian-news announcement :)

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.



Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-10 Thread Tor Slettnes
 Javier == Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Javier Well I'm more or less asking if other people feel too
Javier that this should be shown prominently in the front web
Javier page...

Although I am a (pseudo) European also, I think not.

First off, the Euro sign is a detail as far as using Debian goes, even
for European users.  It can probably be compared with generating
characters like æ, ø, å, ä, ö, ü, ß, etc - except, of course, that it
is a new sign.

Second of all, the 'euro-support' package is not part of a stable (or
even testing) distribution yet. 

Third, having it on the front page permanently would make this a
euro-centric distribution.  We want to keep the front page as generic
as possible, no?

Why not make some of the documentation from the 'euro-support' package
available via the Debian web site as well, and then announce the
explicit support (if any) like any other news event?

Just my 0.022 euros worth.

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Får i ulveklær



Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I'm currently compiling the euro-support package which has been some time 
in experimental (waiting for bugs :) to move it to unstable. This package,
however, due to the current problems in changing configuration files in Debian
easily (and my lack of time) is a documentation-only package (and a test
script).

In any case, since Debian 2.2 and Debian 3.0 will be euro-compatible, and this
is quite an important issue for all the Euro-zone (most of Europe). Could it be
a good idea to publish this in our web page as we did for the year 2000 issue
last year?

Regards

Javi



Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-07 Thread peter karlsson
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña:

 Could it be a good idea to publish this in our web page as we did for the
 year 2000 issue last year?

That sounds like a very good idea, considering it's quite a big change.

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Re: Moving euro to the front page?

2001-12-07 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:20:58PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 I'm currently compiling the euro-support package which has been some time 
 in experimental (waiting for bugs :) to move it to unstable. This package,
 however, due to the current problems in changing configuration files in Debian
 easily (and my lack of time) is a documentation-only package (and a test
 script).
 
If it's that important, make an announcement and send it to the people
who can post to debian-announce (someone else will hopefully jump in
here with who that is). It will then be posted on the web site.

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]