Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-21 Thread Martin Schulze
Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
 Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.  There are lots of people in the
 past who have suggested that that would like to change the layout a bit,
 so why not give people a change to see what they come up with.
 
 However, if we want to create such a content, I think it is important
 to state in advance what kind of limitations we want.  For example,
 validating XTHML, clear separation of content and layout, working in all
 browsers, no frames, no javascript, no dynamic pages, needs to fit in
 the current wml building scheme and translation practise, etc.

I would like to loosen the no javascript restriction in that the web
pages have to be functional without any javascript enabled.  However,
additional features, improved usability and other stuff that could help
should be allowed.  Javascript must not be mandatory but only optional.

Those who watch without a JS enabled browser need to be able to work
with our web page.

Could only agree to the rest.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-21 Thread Runa Sandvik


Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 
 I agree. Another option could be to make it a summer of code project;
 the FreeBSD project did that last year, and look at their website now!
 :-)
 

Just thought I could point you to
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007/WebCleanup
It's not so much design and artwork, but more about structure and
navigation.

- Runa

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Re: Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-19 Thread mathieu stumpf
Runa already wrote the proposal in the wiki:
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007/WebCleanup

AFAIK, there are no mentors or candidates yet.

Two questions then :
* Can I subscrib if I already have a placement (I'm currently in
licence professionnelle informatique until septembre working half the
week)
* If I can, where do I subscrib for this subject?


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Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-18 Thread Gustavo Franco

On 3/17/07, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:31:00AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
 Hi Mathieu!
 Hi! I steal think that debian has, unfortunatly, the less beautiful
 website of all major distributions. I already submited some artworks I
 did on this mailling list[1], but not everyone liked it.  All right, I
 may not be the best webdesigner around here, so what about launching a
 contest ? :)

 Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.

I agree. Another option could be to make it a summer of code project;
the FreeBSD project did that last year, and look at their website now!
:-)
(...)


Sounds good Wouter. Btw, I offer myself as co-mentor of such a task, I
can do some research on how the SoC project was mentored for the
FreeBSD project, how they translate the website and if we can adapt
their ideas to our current scenario, what were the problems with the
content migration (if it was needed) and stuff like that. I think a
better primary mentor would be somebody else more involved with the
daily website maintenance though. Anyone interested?

regards,
-- stratus
http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com


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Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-18 Thread Gustavo Franco

On 3/17/07, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:31:00AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
 Hi Mathieu!
 Hi! I steal think that debian has, unfortunatly, the less beautiful
 website of all major distributions. I already submited some artworks I
 did on this mailling list[1], but not everyone liked it.  All right, I
 may not be the best webdesigner around here, so what about launching a
 contest ? :)

 Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.

I agree. Another option could be to make it a summer of code project;
the FreeBSD project did that last year, and look at their website now!
:-)


Runa already wrote the proposal in the wiki:
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007/WebCleanup

AFAIK, there are no mentors or candidates yet.


(...)


regards,
-- stratus
http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com


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Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:31:00AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
 Hi Mathieu!
 Hi! I steal think that debian has, unfortunatly, the less beautiful
 website of all major distributions. I already submited some artworks I
 did on this mailling list[1], but not everyone liked it.  All right, I
 may not be the best webdesigner around here, so what about launching a
 contest ? :)
 
 Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.

I agree. Another option could be to make it a summer of code project;
the FreeBSD project did that last year, and look at their website now!
:-)

 There are lots of people in the past who have suggested that that
 would like to change the layout a bit, so why not give people a change
 to see what they come up with.
 
 However, if we want to create such a content, I think it is important
 to state in advance what kind of limitations we want.  For example,
 validating XTHML,

FWIW, we already have that bit today.

 clear separation of content and layout, working in all browsers, no
 frames, no javascript, no dynamic pages, needs to fit in the current
 wml building scheme and translation practise, etc.
 
 What do you guys think?

I'm all for it.

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Re: A contest for a new css

2007-03-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Mathieu!

Hi! I steal think that debian has, unfortunatly, the less beautiful
website of all major distributions. I already submited some artworks I
did on this mailling list[1], but not everyone liked it.  All right, I
may not be the best webdesigner around here, so what about launching a
contest ? :)

Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.  There are lots of people in the
past who have suggested that that would like to change the layout a bit,
so why not give people a change to see what they come up with.

However, if we want to create such a content, I think it is important
to state in advance what kind of limitations we want.  For example,
validating XTHML, clear separation of content and layout, working in all
browsers, no frames, no javascript, no dynamic pages, needs to fit in
the current wml building scheme and translation practise, etc.

What do you guys think?

Greetings,
Bas.


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