Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-08 Thread James A. Treacy
Just returning from vacation, so a late addition to this thread.

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:08:10PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:02:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin uttered:
 
  If you used en, it would have worked fine. sigh
 
 But of course I would prefer en-au or en-gb to en-us, you see :)
 Works fine now but would be helpful to fix for others in my situation.
 
When the http spec is properly implemented (as in apache), requesting
'en-us' will not serve an 'en' page. On the other hand, requesting
'en' will serve 'en-us' if it exists (and there is no 'en' variant).

This is clearly spelled out in the http spec and there is even a warning
to browser authors to make it clear that country codes should only be
used when really needed.

So, as you have already noticed, the proper way to specify your
preference is to use 'en-au, en-gb, en'.

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 The UK mirror of the Debian site, www.uk.debian.org, has started
 defaulting to Chinese as its language.  Weird!  Hope I'm reporting
 this to the right place.

You are, however, please check out
http://www.debian.org/intro/cn

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread peter karlsson
Rev Simon Rumble:

 The UK mirror of the Debian site, www.uk.debian.org, has started
 defaulting to Chinese as its language.

No, it hasn't (just checked). If you don't tell it anything, it gives
English. Please check for any misconfigured proxies, read more at
http://www.debian.org/intro/cn

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:29:50PM +0200, peter karlsson uttered:

 No, it hasn't (just checked). If you don't tell it anything, it gives
 English. Please check for any misconfigured proxies, read more at
 http://www.debian.org/intro/cn

H...  I'm using IE 5.5 (long story involving getting paid sigh)
and the languages are set up to send en-gb as the preferential
language.  That's the default for Win ME when you choose that locale.

Upon changing that to now be (my preference): en-au, en-gb, en, fr
it works fine.  It seems the language matching doesn't recognise, or
gets confused by, just en-gb.  I did verify this on the gllug list and
two other people verified it wasn't just me and my browser.

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:39:01PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
  No, it hasn't (just checked). If you don't tell it anything, it gives
  English. Please check for any misconfigured proxies, read more at
  http://www.debian.org/intro/cn
 
 H...  I'm using IE 5.5 (long story involving getting paid sigh)
 and the languages are set up to send en-gb as the preferential
 language.  That's the default for Win ME when you choose that locale.
 
 Upon changing that to now be (my preference): en-au, en-gb, en, fr
 it works fine.  It seems the language matching doesn't recognise, or
 gets confused by, just en-gb.  I did verify this on the gllug list and
 two other people verified it wasn't just me and my browser.

This is a known problem with how Apache handles settings that have two
parts, e.g. en-gb, and those are the defaults in Internet Explorer 5.5, it
seems.

If you used en, it would have worked fine. sigh

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:02:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin uttered:

 If you used en, it would have worked fine. sigh

But of course I would prefer en-au or en-gb to en-us, you see :)
Works fine now but would be helpful to fix for others in my situation.

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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Fri, May 04, 2001, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 But of course I would prefer en-au or en-gb to en-us, you see :)
 Works fine now but would be helpful to fix for others in my situation.

 I'd rather like to see that MS doesn't try to enforce new (read, their)
so-called standards by using non-standard defaults for their apps *sigh*

 Just my 0.02 EUR
Alfie
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To purr feline.
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Re: Chinese new official language in UK?

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 06:34:28PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs uttered:

  I'd rather like to see that MS doesn't try to enforce new (read, their)
 so-called standards by using non-standard defaults for their apps *sigh*

en-gb is a perfectly valid and standard language default.  Of course
not having en as a backup is a little dumb considering how few sites
would publish British English versions of their sites.  Still,
Chinese coming up kinda surprised me.  (Though someone said it was
Japanese -- all Greek to me.)

Mental note: check out if www.royal.gov.uk supports en-us or en-au :)

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