Re: Updating the website on point releases
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 02:39:01PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA256 > >[ Adding press@ if they wish to comment on the proposal. ] > >Le 16/12/2013 11:44, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : >> On Lu, 16 dec 13, 15:22:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> Thoughts? >> >> Why not change the links to use the 'current'[1] symlink? > >That’s what we already do for the Live images, but the main links point >to specific files containing the version number. E.g. on the main page: > >http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso > >If a symlink could also be provided on cdimage side to the files we >need, it would probably be a worth considering solution (no delay, links >“always” up). I'm bothered about having too many symlinks in place in a visible directory (e.g. inside iso-cd/iso-dvd etc.), as they'll obscure the actual contents too much. Hmmm, maybe... At the moment, we have a top-level symlink: current -> 7.3.0/ 7.3.0 then contains all the files underneath. I *could* switch that over to having "current" be an actual directory tree, with "current" links to the files under 7.3.0: current/ /i386/ /iso-cd/ debian-latest-i386.iso --> ../../../7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-latest-i386.iso etc. I can script producing that symlink tree so it'll be essentially instantaneous. The _downside_ to this is that people will end up downloading ISO files with filenames that can't/won't match anything real. When people come to try to validate what they've got with checksums, or (worse!) try to report bugs, that's going to bite us too. >If not, I’d be happy to see the debian-cd people join the >press group (or let the DSA create a specific group giving them the >needed rights) allowing them to trigger an effective partial rebuild >(and I’d also be happy if the non official press helpers doing the >announcement work – e.g. Cédric Boutillier and Paul Wise – could be >added to the press group if they wish to). This would be the best solution, I think. So long as we're not going to be bitten by caching issues like we've seen in the past. Other option: redirect via a CGI/whatever dynamic to map "latest" into the real path/filename on demand. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "You can't barbecue lettuce!" -- Ellie Crane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131217153238.ga17...@einval.com
Re: Updating the website on point releases
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 02:39:01PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > [ Adding press@ if they wish to comment on the proposal. ] > > Le 16/12/2013 11:44, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > > On Lu, 16 dec 13, 15:22:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> > >> Thoughts? > > > > Why not change the links to use the 'current'[1] symlink? > > That’s what we already do for the Live images, but the main links point > to specific files containing the version number. E.g. on the main page: > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso > > If a symlink could also be provided on cdimage side to the files we > need, it would probably be a worth considering solution (no delay, links > “always” up). If not, I’d be happy to see the debian-cd people join the > press group (or let the DSA create a specific group giving them the > needed rights) allowing them to trigger an effective partial rebuild > (and I’d also be happy if the non official press helpers doing the > announcement work – e.g. Cédric Boutillier and Paul Wise – could be > added to the press group if they wish to). > That all seems sensible to me - I'm happy with whoever needs adding to the gid to have it. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Updating the website on point releases
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 03:22:07PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Thinking about the usuel point release update problems with CD image > filenames and web pages getting out of sync... Workflow described some time ago, and applied many times without user complain on lists: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2009/09/msg00055.html I wonder on which wiki page it should be pasted to (release faq, page under webmaster team ?) -- Simon Paillard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131216200234.go15...@mraw.org
Re: Updating the website on point releases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [ Adding press@ if they wish to comment on the proposal. ] Le 16/12/2013 11:44, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > On Lu, 16 dec 13, 15:22:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> Thoughts? > > Why not change the links to use the 'current'[1] symlink? That’s what we already do for the Live images, but the main links point to specific files containing the version number. E.g. on the main page: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso If a symlink could also be provided on cdimage side to the files we need, it would probably be a worth considering solution (no delay, links “always” up). If not, I’d be happy to see the debian-cd people join the press group (or let the DSA create a specific group giving them the needed rights) allowing them to trigger an effective partial rebuild (and I’d also be happy if the non official press helpers doing the announcement work – e.g. Cédric Boutillier and Paul Wise – could be added to the press group if they wish to). Regards David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSr0jBAAoJEAWMHPlE9r08O2wIAK5miopeRCfKK0FydV2ZRb47 knsijN2zvK4usy7QTcdk+d1v2FSAzkBrWYPfe347FXdOvHTHk9dHZ6Kxm3rjAVdc bfAgsaNPQuZr6XUWAbRmjg4nVf8cxhuzNWbURbGS5aELRemhId/FWubEBy/pAcT8 CRcOeKuRRsDG2Cub+VPs6FP162T1tfEq9o1vhsAuYJH79bjiG8PcCQehw7+LTAoN dsz85hr3yn81WfaqrN1dFhWin+srDp/O4JdHhNcB67QDX50xmddEiAymm+lVPX7z qqGQDT65dUhU94sU1WwLQ7JT3v13k/hu9V2FW/8z+idmO5MSPIOZoE5M76Ltuv4= =ta9+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52af48c5.7010...@debian.org
Re: Updating the website on point releases
On Lu, 16 dec 13, 15:22:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Thoughts? Why not change the links to use the 'current'[1] symlink? A solution would still have to be found for direct links to specific images, but it would be an improvement. [1] e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ instead of http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
