Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:40:53AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When the changes are in place, we will encounter this error: > make -C debianer install > make: Entering an unknown directory > make: Leaving an unknown directory > make[1]: Leaving directory `/pool/debiansite/webwml/english/devel' > > It looks like that 'make -C debian-installer install' > is reduced into 'make -C debianer install' Fixed now, thanks. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:32:36AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:51:45AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > [Josip Rodin]
> > > It would seem to me that regardless of anything, we're still waiting
> > > for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say something...
> >
> > We do? I didn't know. I didn't know what we were waiting for, I was
> > just waiting. What should I say? I think it is a splendid idea to
> > get an automatically updated copy of the content of
> > debian-installer/doc/html/ available under
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/> or some other
> > official location. Should I say more?
>
> Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of
> cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to
> cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer...
>
> I'll take a look at that. Expect results within a week, and flame me if
> nothing happens :)
Could someone apply this
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/pool/debiansite/webwml
$ cvs -q diff -u english/devel/
? english/devel/debian-installer
Index: english/devel//Makefile
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -r1.29 Makefile
--- english/devel//Makefile 16 Jul 2003 17:11:13 - 1.29
+++ english/devel//Makefile 27 Jul 2003 14:49:02 -
@@ -4,7 +4,9 @@
WMLBASE=..
CUR_DIR=devel
-SUBS=website debian-jr debian-med debian-desktop debian-lex debian-nonprofit
join misc wnpp todo
+SUBS=website join misc wnpp todo \
+ debian-jr debian-med debian-desktop debian-lex \
+ debian-nonprofit debian-installer
include $(WMLBASE)/Make.lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/pool/debiansite/webwml
$
?
And when you are on it, please also do:
cd ${YOUR-WEBWML-ROOT}/english/devel
mkdir debian-installer
cvs add debian-installer
cd debian-installer
# copy the attached "index.wml" and "makefile" into the current directory
cvs add index.wml makefile
cd .. # so both makefiles will be committed
cvs commit
Thanks.
An "abstract" about this issue is
at http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200307/msg00199.html
When the changes are in place, we will encounter this error:
make -C debianer install
make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[1]:
Leaving directory `/pool/debiansite/webwml/english/devel'
It looks like that 'make -C debian-installer install'
is reduced into 'make -C debianer install'
Geert Stappers
# This Makefile should need no changes from
# the file webwml/english/devel/debian-installer/Makefile
# because webwml/english/devel/debian-installer/Makefile is "upstream"
# Please send a message to debian-www if you need to modify anything
# so the problem can be fixed.
WMLBASE=../..
CUR_DIR=devel/debian-installer
SUBS=
include $(WMLBASE)/Make.lang
# last line
#use wml::debian::template title="Debian Non-Profit"
#use wml::debian::recent_list
Debian-Installer
# REM:Begin Comment
REM:Right now this page is a shameless copy of an other Debian subproject
REM:It is easier to modify a file that exists, then one that doesn't.
REM:Release Early, Release Often. --catb
# REM:End Comment ( Please clean up the lines that have REM: in it )
Project description
Debian-NP is the beginnings of an internal project to develop Debian into
an operating system that is designed to fulfill the requirements of small
non-profit organizations. The goal of Debian-NP is a complete system for
all common tasks that non-profit organization need using 100% free software.
We want to provide this functionality in a integrated and documented
stable free desktop environment.
The name Debian-NP includes NP meaning "non-profit." We've considered the
name
Debian-NGO but feel as if NGOs are usually larger organizations than the ones
we
aim to serve. "Non-profit" is a somewhat US-centric term, but we have failed to
come up with a better description of the community of not-for-profit,
civil-society,
worker-owned, cooperative, activist groups that we think this distribution would
benefit. If you have a better idea for a name please let us hear it!
The general idea for this kind of project was adopted from the other Debian
sub-projects that include, in no particular order
Debian-Lex,
Debian Junior,
Debian-Med,
Debian Desktop and
Debian Junior
http://www.demudi.org/";>DeMuDi projects.
Debian-NP will contain a set of meta packages that declare dependencies on
other
Debian packages, and that way the complete system is prepared for solving
particular
tasks. Like other sub-projects, we hope that there will soon be a framework for
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200303/msg00014.html";>
flavors of Debian on which Debian-NP might be based.
Eventually, we aim to write new pieces of software, useful outside of
Debian, to
replace programs important to non-profits but currently unavailable as free
software
or on GNU/Linux systems (e.g., a good fund raising database).
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 09:30:36AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > > > > Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of
> > > > > cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to
> > > > > cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer...
> >
> > So we should forget about a simple move
> > My proposal is to go use both.
> >
> > Before you say "that is double work, will have ambiguous data",
> > consider that the current situation is also not desired
> > and we never we will find out how {easy,difficult} it is
> > to keep them in sync when we don't start with it.
>
> Well, not so hard at all. if you put the wml source in webwml,
> and the web build script just deploys built html to cvs.
> Is that reasonable, Josip?
Yeah, of course. The version in d-boot repository can be used for testing,
and the webwml version for what goes to users.
--
2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:20:01PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:25:23AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of
> > > cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to
> > > cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer...
> >
> > What about just checking it out from the current CVS repository and
> > directly into the proper location? This way, everyone with write
> > access to d-i will be able to update the documentation. We have a few
> > extra people with write access, and I suspect they will not have write
> > access to the webwml/ repository. Also, it is easier to find the
> > documentation repository when it is in the same repository as the
> > source itself.
>
> And conversely, if it's outside the webwml tree and webwml standards,
> it looks inconsistent and doesn't benefit from webwml peer review and
> translations.
>
So we should forget about a simple move from
> cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to
> cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer...
My proposal is to go use both.
./webwml/english/devel/debian-installer
for the webwml peer review and translations
and
./debian-installer/doc
these is considered as "upstream" for the content.
Before you say "that is double work, will have ambiguous data",
consider that the current situation is also not desired
and we never we will find out how {easy,difficult} it is
to keep them in sync when we don't start with it.
Geert Stappers
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Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:25:23AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of > > cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to > > cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer... > > What about just checking it out from the current CVS repository and > directly into the proper location? This way, everyone with write > access to d-i will be able to update the documentation. We have a few > extra people with write access, and I suspect they will not have write > access to the webwml/ repository. Also, it is easier to find the > documentation repository when it is in the same repository as the > source itself. And conversely, if it's outside the webwml tree and webwml standards, it looks inconsistent and doesn't benefit from webwml peer review and translations. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:25:23AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Martin Quinson] > > Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of > > cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to > > cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer... > > What about just checking it out from the current CVS repository and > directly into the proper location? This way, everyone with write > access to d-i will be able to update the documentation. We have a few > extra people with write access, and I suspect they will not have write > access to the webwml/ repository. Also, it is easier to find the > documentation repository when it is in the same repository as the > source itself. Ok, but I'm not DD and have not direct access on the server. I cannot (as in "dont know how to") modify the makefiles and/or crontabs so that the stuff is checkouted from the d-i CVS. This may also lead to difficulties for individuals to checkout the stuff and test locally their changes before commiting them. You'd have to checkout the d-i stuff at the right location of your checkouted webwml tree. And where would the translations be placed then? Beside of that, I agree that keeping the documentation and the code close is a good idea and that we should at least try. > > I'll take a look at that. Expect results within a week, and flame me > > if nothing happens :) > > Thanks. :) Well, I guess I'll get flamed since I've so little free time for now, but I'm prepared to this eventuality :) Bye, Mt. -- If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon, and explode once every few weeks, killing everyone inside.
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
[Martin Quinson] > Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of > cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to > cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer... What about just checking it out from the current CVS repository and directly into the proper location? This way, everyone with write access to d-i will be able to update the documentation. We have a few extra people with write access, and I suspect they will not have write access to the webwml/ repository. Also, it is easier to find the documentation repository when it is in the same repository as the source itself. > I'll take a look at that. Expect results within a week, and flame me > if nothing happens :) Thanks. :)
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:51:45AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Josip Rodin] > > It would seem to me that regardless of anything, we're still waiting > > for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say something... > > We do? I didn't know. I didn't know what we were waiting for, I was > just waiting. What should I say? I think it is a splendid idea to > get an automatically updated copy of the content of > debian-installer/doc/html/ available under > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/> or some other > official location. Should I say more? Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer... I'll take a look at that. Expect results within a week, and flame me if nothing happens :) Bye, Mt. -- - Les morts ne sont plus ici et ils ne votent pas, j'en ai peur. - Vous vous trompez. Ils sont ici et ils votent. On appelle ça la tradition et ils ont majorité à vingt contre un. -- Johny Maxwell (Terry Pratchett)
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
[Josip Rodin] > It would seem to me that regardless of anything, we're still waiting > for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say something... We do? I didn't know. I didn't know what we were waiting for, I was just waiting. What should I say? I think it is a splendid idea to get an automatically updated copy of the content of debian-installer/doc/html/ available under http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/> or some other official location. Should I say more?
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:52:22PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > > > I mail you to ask you what do you think of putting the content of > > > http://people.debian.org/~pere/debian-installer/ > > > under > > > www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > > > (or elsewhere if this location don't look appropriate to you). > > > > IIRC I mailed someone about that already... or I seriously contemplated that > > at least :) > > What was the content of this mail which seems to be lost? Are you agreeing? > proposing another location? It would seem to me that regardless of anything, we're still waiting for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say something... -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 07:09:21PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:33:09PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > > I mail you to ask you what do you think of putting the content of > > http://people.debian.org/~pere/debian-installer/ > > under > > www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > > (or elsewhere if this location don't look appropriate to you). > > IIRC I mailed someone about that already... or I seriously contemplated that > at least :) What was the content of this mail which seems to be lost? Are you agreeing? proposing another location? Thanks, Mt. -- Tout le monde savait que c'était impossible. Puis vint un imbécile qui ne le savait pas et qui l'a fait. --- M. Pagnol
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 07:09:21PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:33:09PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > > I mail you to ask you what do you think of putting the content of > > http://people.debian.org/~pere/debian-installer/ > > under > > www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > > (or elsewhere if this location don't look appropriate to you). > > IIRC I mailed someone about that already... or I seriously contemplated that > at least :) > I could have been me, in march I asked for a web page for d-i. ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200303/msg00225.html ) If it was sended, I missed it... Keep up the good work. Geert Stappers
Re: Where could we put web pages about debian-installer on the official debian web server?
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:33:09PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > I mail you to ask you what do you think of putting the content of > http://people.debian.org/~pere/debian-installer/ > under > www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > (or elsewhere if this location don't look appropriate to you). IIRC I mailed someone about that already... or I seriously contemplated that at least :) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
