Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 11:11:12PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
   Quick Links  News
   --   ---
   --   ---
   --
   --   Help Debian
   --   ---
   --   ---
  
  When spread out into a single column, the links are waaay too long to do
  this nicely, without leaving a load of empty space between News and Help.
 
 Well, there's always more news you could pad it with for filler, right?

Yes, but it would take a lot more news, and that would be even more
embarrassing, since it would display items as much as several months old...

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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-08 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-02-07 14:45]:
 Still too wide for links (80 char/line) and other conditions as
 previously reported.  May not be critical but 

 If you don't put nbsp; in this section (especially the Installation
Instructions) it should work in 80 chars  And I guess for the gui
browsers it's narrow enough that it wouldn't wrap there nevertheless.

 At least worth a try, if you don't accept JoeyH's sugguestion.

 HTH,
Alfie
-- 
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_eis das neue root kit? :-
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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  Still too wide for links (80 char/line) and other conditions as
  previously reported.  May not be critical but 
 
  If you don't put nbsp; in this section (especially the Installation
 Instructions) it should work in 80 chars

Yeah, the install manual link is exactly the one that's screwing it up.
I wonder, do we need the two long words, both beginning with a capital I in
there? :)

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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:23:44PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Have you thought about dropping the cyan backgrond box with the round
 corners?

Expect a few more pages to look at, soon. :)

 As it is it's boxes inside the cyan box all inside my mozilla
 window, which is really a bit complicated when you think about it.

You shouldn't be thinking about it... this is a design failure actually :)

 And IMHO the color clashes with the rest of the colors on the page (I
 think the same thing about the existing cyan box on the current debian web
 page.)

Noted... I almost agree.

 Hmm, here's a layout idea. What if you took the quick links, news, and
 help debian, and arranged them like this:
 
 Quick Links  News
 --   ---
 --   ---
 --
 --   Help Debian
 --   ---
 --   ---

When spread out into a single column, the links are waaay too long to do
this nicely, without leaving a load of empty space between News and Help.

 I think you should make the layout and format of the dates in the news
 and upgrade sections more homogenoius.

I agree, I'll change both of them to use the non-fixed-width variant.
The date will be right-aligned and top-valigned, too.

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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-08 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote:
  As it is it's boxes inside the cyan box all inside my mozilla
  window, which is really a bit complicated when you think about it.
 
 You shouldn't be thinking about it... this is a design failure actually :)

That's the problem with setting up a web page to have things that look
vaguely like windows in it. :-)

  Quick Links  News
  --   ---
  --   ---
  --
  --   Help Debian
  --   ---
  --   ---
 
 When spread out into a single column, the links are waaay too long to do
 this nicely, without leaving a load of empty space between News and Help.

Well, there's always more news you could pad it with for filler, right?

-- 
see shy jo



new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi,

Mostly for the yellow+black haters. :)

http://joy.gkvk.hr/newfront2.5/

I also reviewed my notes about the quick links position and decided there
wasn't enough coherence in the comments about it :) I've moved install and
upgrade boxes above it, it seems a bit better.

(Oops, it seems I didn't send this... apologies to Matthew.)

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 2. That which causes joy or happiness.



Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:09:45 +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:

Mostly for the yellow+black haters. :)

I'm one of them, and it's _much_ better now. :-)

I also reviewed my notes about the quick links 
[...]

Is it possible to top align the columns?  It looks a bit odd with
different space between the frame and the first link in the columns.

I've moved install and upgrade boxes above it, it seems a bit better.

I agree, but the quick links are getting too far down the page (like
others I prefer the navigation bar to the left).

In Opera, Netscape and Internet Explorer there are frames around the
news items (both the dates and the headlines), while they're not there
in Mozilla and Konqueror.  Please get rid of the frames in the other
browers, if you can.
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Regards, Kaare - http://www.nightcall.dk/



Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Rob Bradford
On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 18:09, Josip Rodin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Mostly for the yellow+black haters. :)
 
 http://joy.gkvk.hr/newfront2.5/
 
Lovely :) 

Can you just make the Quick links, News and help boxes the same width? I
think that would look great :)
-- 
Rob 'robster' Bradford
http://robster.org.uk



Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:09:45 +0100
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Mostly for the yellow+black haters. :)
 
 http://joy.gkvk.hr/newfront2.5/
cute =), I just think that quicklinks, news and help debian
should fill all the page's width, just like what is debian

thanks for the good work =)

[]s!

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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:09:45PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
 http://joy.gkvk.hr/newfront2.5/

Still too wide for links (80 char/line) and other conditions as
previously reported.  May not be critical but 

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Re: new front page, take 2.5

2002-02-07 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote:
 Mostly for the yellow+black haters. :)

Much much better. I actually like this one.

Have you thought about dropping the cyan backgrond box with the round
corners? As it is it's boxes inside the cyan box all inside my mozilla
window, which is really a bit complicated when you think about it. That
thing also eats vertical and horizontal space. And IMHO the color
clashes with the rest of the colors on the page (I think the same thing
about the existing cyan box on the current debian web page.)

Hmm, here's a layout idea. What if you took the quick links, news, and
help debian, and arranged them like this:

Quick Links  News
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--
--   Help Debian
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---
--   ---

I notice that the News and Quick links boxes are already not as wide
as the rest of the page, so this layout shouldn't affect them much, I
hope. And the links is dying to become a vertical bar, and at the same
time this doesn't cut down on the page width for the larger boxes at the
top of the page.

I think you should make the layout and format of the dates in the news
and upgrade sections more homogenoius. Any reason to have [] around the
dates in one and not the other? Any reason not to use the same font for
both sets of dates?

-- 
see shy jo