libdb.so.3 blues [was: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)]

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:34:31PM -0700, Simon deWeerdt wrote:
> Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.
[...]
> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
[...]
> I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable
> 
> If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

You've just seen the first in what will probably be a long line of bloody
corpses generated by Ben Collins's glibc 2.1.94 upload.

I am probably going to downgrade my build box to glibc 2.1.3-10 and stick
with that.  Progeny is about to enter freeze for our release and I'd like
to delay a fork between Debian's X packages and Progeny's for as long as
possible.

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Re: [off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:26:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> /org/lists.debian.org/lists/debian-x-0009

Apparently it took no more than 9 months and 26 days to forget a very
important lesson.  :-P

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Re: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:52:42PM -0700, Mark Montague wrote:
> A possible temporary fix might be to put
> 
> #define HasShm NO
> 
> into the appropriate place in site.def / linux.cf and distribute the
> .debs that way until it's fixed upstream. Of course, not doing this
> will encourage more people to look for the bug... and I don't know if
> XF86 will compile/work without SHM these days...

Just thought I would mention (again) that this has been fixed upstream.
Use phase2v10 or later.

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Re: Phase 2 XFree86 4.0.1 .debs and Qt-2.2.0

2000-09-26 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:02:11PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:00AM +0200, Norbert Irmer wrote:
> > I have installed the latest phase 2 debs.
> 
> I doubt you did; if you had installed the latest debs, you'd know where to
> send bug reports.
> 
> > It seems that the FileDialog box of Qt doesn't works
> > with XFree-4. It totally blocks, i.e. it doesn't display
> > any files, and you cannot do anything, except killing
> > the program.
> > 
> > I don't know if recompiling Qt fixes the problem,
> > but at least the existing Qt-debs for debian-woody
> > don't work with XFree-4.

This is fixed in the current (-8 I believe) libqt2.2 package.

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libdb.so.3 blues [was: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)]

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:34:31PM -0700, Simon deWeerdt wrote:
> Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.
[...]
> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
[...]
> I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable
> 
> If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

You've just seen the first in what will probably be a long line of bloody
corpses generated by Ben Collins's glibc 2.1.94 upload.

I am probably going to downgrade my build box to glibc 2.1.3-10 and stick
with that.  Progeny is about to enter freeze for our release and I'd like
to delay a fork between Debian's X packages and Progeny's for as long as
possible.

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Re: [off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:26:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> /org/lists.debian.org/lists/debian-x-0009

Apparently it took no more than 9 months and 26 days to forget a very
important lesson.  :-P

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Re: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:52:42PM -0700, Mark Montague wrote:
> A possible temporary fix might be to put
> 
> #define HasShm NO
> 
> into the appropriate place in site.def / linux.cf and distribute the
> .debs that way until it's fixed upstream. Of course, not doing this
> will encourage more people to look for the bug... and I don't know if
> XF86 will compile/work without SHM these days...

Just thought I would mention (again) that this has been fixed upstream.
Use phase2v10 or later.

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Re: sig11 with phase2v10 debs

2000-09-26 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:37AM -0300, John R Lenton wrote:
> this is the same behaviour reported for v9, except that it only happens
> using the glide driver (i.e. MGA no longer sig11s on startup).
> 
> I actually got glide to work in woody on a voodoo 1, so that's why I
> tried with the glide driver --- maybe it's not even supposed to work :)

So the glide2 package for the V1 does work? Great!
(I have been putting off pulling out my V2 to test the V1)
> 
> attached is the log.

I'm not seeing anything about glide in it, could you give some specifics
about your setup?

Zephaniah E. Hull.
(The glide guy.)
> 
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Re: Phase 2 XFree86 4.0.1 .debs and Qt-2.2.0

2000-09-26 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:02:11PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:00AM +0200, Norbert Irmer wrote:
> > I have installed the latest phase 2 debs.
> 
> I doubt you did; if you had installed the latest debs, you'd know where to
> send bug reports.
> 
> > It seems that the FileDialog box of Qt doesn't works
> > with XFree-4. It totally blocks, i.e. it doesn't display
> > any files, and you cannot do anything, except killing
> > the program.
> > 
> > I don't know if recompiling Qt fixes the problem,
> > but at least the existing Qt-debs for debian-woody
> > don't work with XFree-4.

This is fixed in the current (-8 I believe) libqt2.2 package.

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Re: Phase 2 XFree86 4.0.1 .debs and Qt-2.2.0

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:00AM +0200, Norbert Irmer wrote:
> I have installed the latest phase 2 debs.

I doubt you did; if you had installed the latest debs, you'd know where to
send bug reports.

> It seems that the FileDialog box of Qt doesn't works
> with XFree-4. It totally blocks, i.e. it doesn't display
> any files, and you cannot do anything, except killing
> the program.
> 
> I don't know if recompiling Qt fixes the problem,
> but at least the existing Qt-debs for debian-woody
> don't work with XFree-4.
> 
> Greets,
> Norbert

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sig11 with phase2v10 debs

2000-09-26 Thread John R Lenton
this is the same behaviour reported for v9, except that it only happens
using the glide driver (i.e. MGA no longer sig11s on startup).

I actually got glide to work in woody on a voodoo 1, so that's why I
tried with the glide driver --- maybe it's not even supposed to work :)

attached is the log.

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Re: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Mark Montague
Simon deWeerdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> Have been apt-get ing the xfree86 4.0.1 from samosa.debian.org/~branden/
> 
> Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.
> 
> 
> 
> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable
> 
> If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

This is an update bug involving perl and apt, which doesn't involve X
(as far as I can tell). I had to get the .deb myself and "dpkg -i" it,
since I got to a broken state where apt couldn't install it.

The package name in question is libdb2. In my case, apt had already
put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ but couldn't install it.

I suspect that the appropriate maintainers know about this, but I
haven't checked if there is already a bug report filed... I'm not sure
if it's most appropriate to file against libdb2, debconf, apt, or
perl. 

- M

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Re: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Decklin Foster
Simon deWeerdt writes:

> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory

I don't think this was caused by the X packages. Were you upgrading
something else at the time? (I'm thinking glibc, possibly).

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package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Simon deWeerdt
Hi

Have been apt-get ing the xfree86 4.0.1 from samosa.debian.org/~branden/

Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.



Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory




I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable

If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

Thanks

Simon



Re: sig11 with phase2v10 debs

2000-09-26 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:37AM -0300, John R Lenton wrote:
> this is the same behaviour reported for v9, except that it only happens
> using the glide driver (i.e. MGA no longer sig11s on startup).
> 
> I actually got glide to work in woody on a voodoo 1, so that's why I
> tried with the glide driver --- maybe it's not even supposed to work :)

So the glide2 package for the V1 does work? Great!
(I have been putting off pulling out my V2 to test the V1)
> 
> attached is the log.

I'm not seeing anything about glide in it, could you give some specifics
about your setup?

Zephaniah E. Hull.
(The glide guy.)
> 
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Re: Phase 2 XFree86 4.0.1 .debs and Qt-2.2.0

2000-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:16:00AM +0200, Norbert Irmer wrote:
> I have installed the latest phase 2 debs.

I doubt you did; if you had installed the latest debs, you'd know where to
send bug reports.

> It seems that the FileDialog box of Qt doesn't works
> with XFree-4. It totally blocks, i.e. it doesn't display
> any files, and you cannot do anything, except killing
> the program.
> 
> I don't know if recompiling Qt fixes the problem,
> but at least the existing Qt-debs for debian-woody
> don't work with XFree-4.
> 
> Greets,
> Norbert

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Re: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Mark Montague
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   * This upstream SHM problem is a doozy.  This has to be fixed, especially
> for users who use ridiculous window managers like Enlightenment that
> chew threw SHM segments like pirhana through cattle.  Fortunately, I
> expect this will fixed soon, although I did a CVS update a few minutes
> ago and didn't see anything that looked like a fix for it to my
> untrained eye.  Perhaps xpert@xfree86.org could use some intelligent
> bug reports.

A possible temporary fix might be to put

#define HasShm NO

into the appropriate place in site.def / linux.cf and distribute the
.debs that way until it's fixed upstream. Of course, not doing this
will encourage more people to look for the bug... and I don't know if
XF86 will compile/work without SHM these days...

- M

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sig11 with phase2v10 debs

2000-09-26 Thread John R Lenton

this is the same behaviour reported for v9, except that it only happens
using the glide driver (i.e. MGA no longer sig11s on startup).

I actually got glide to work in woody on a voodoo 1, so that's why I
tried with the glide driver --- maybe it's not even supposed to work :)

attached is the log.

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Re: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Mark Montague

Simon deWeerdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> Have been apt-get ing the xfree86 4.0.1 from samosa.debian.org/~branden/
> 
> Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.
> 
> 
> 
> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable
> 
> If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

This is an update bug involving perl and apt, which doesn't involve X
(as far as I can tell). I had to get the .deb myself and "dpkg -i" it,
since I got to a broken state where apt couldn't install it.

The package name in question is libdb2. In my case, apt had already
put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ but couldn't install it.

I suspect that the appropriate maintainers know about this, but I
haven't checked if there is already a bug report filed... I'm not sure
if it's most appropriate to file against libdb2, debconf, apt, or
perl. 

- M

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Re: package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Decklin Foster

Simon deWeerdt writes:

> Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory

I don't think this was caused by the X packages. Were you upgrading
something else at the time? (I'm thinking glibc, possibly).

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package bug in xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10)

2000-09-26 Thread Simon deWeerdt

Hi

Have been apt-get ing the xfree86 4.0.1 from samosa.debian.org/~branden/

Have a dependancy problem I can't satisfy.



Setting up xfree86-common (4.0.1-0phase2v10) ...
perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory




I can't find a deb for libdb3.0 in unstable

If there is one in a maintainers directory I'll apt-get it.

Thanks

Simon


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Re: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Mark Montague

Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   * This upstream SHM problem is a doozy.  This has to be fixed, especially
> for users who use ridiculous window managers like Enlightenment that
> chew threw SHM segments like pirhana through cattle.  Fortunately, I
> expect this will fixed soon, although I did a CVS update a few minutes
> ago and didn't see anything that looked like a fix for it to my
> untrained eye.  Perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] could use some intelligent
> bug reports.

A possible temporary fix might be to put

#define HasShm NO

into the appropriate place in site.def / linux.cf and distribute the
.debs that way until it's fixed upstream. Of course, not doing this
will encourage more people to look for the bug... and I don't know if
XF86 will compile/work without SHM these days...

- M

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Re: [off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:56:31PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> I just realized (upon seeing my own messages failing to show up where I
> was looking for them) that the mailing list system has changed.  It used
> to be that I could read debian-x by snagging ~debian/lists/debian-x/*[0-9]
> on master.
> 
> Can someone remind me where I should be looking?

/org/lists.debian.org/lists/debian-x-0009

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Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias

2000-09-26 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:24:24AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases 
> > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code 
> > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently 
> > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for 
> > > X, I figured I'd ask here first.
> > 
> > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I mentioned it on i18n@xfree86.org, and it didn't sound like they would
> be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't
> think anyone else has a eo_EO locale.

I probably wouldn't apply that patch, since glibc2.2 doesn't have a eo_EO
locale, and eo_XX (which X supports) is closer to correct.

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[off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Raul Miller
I just realized (upon seeing my own messages failing to show up where I
was looking for them) that the mailing list system has changed.  It used
to be that I could read debian-x by snagging ~debian/lists/debian-x/*[0-9]
on master.

Can someone remind me where I should be looking?

Thanks,

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Re: chips driver doesn't work anymore

2000-09-26 Thread Seth Arnold
* Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000926 13:25]:
>   Please tell me if this isn't the right please to sent this mail.
> I've been using the experimental debs from phase 1 and never had a problem,
> untill phase2v9 and phase2v10. It seems that the chips driver is broken.

I do think newbie@xfree86.org would be a better mailing list for these
questions, since it isn't specific to Debian. (I don't think.)

> X works alright when i replace chips_drv.o with an older version.
> Unfortunately i can't supply any logs when using the newer version of
> the driver , because when my machine enters graphical mode it hangs ;(

X should also be leaving logs in /var/log/XFree86.?.log -- probably
XFree86.0.log. (The ? corresponds with/to the display number, I think.)

Check to see if it writes it to disk. (Be sure also to either give the
machine plenty of time for the disk buffers to be flushed, or ensure
that you manually flush the disk buffers while rebooting, either via
telnetting/sshing into your computer and running shutdown normally, or
via the system request key if you have that enabled in your 2.2 or
higher kernel.. (the sysreq key does many neat things, but a sequence I
hit when my X dies on me is alt-sysreq s, alt-sysreq u, alt-sysreq r,
alt-sysreq b. That should sync the drives, and either umount them or
remount them read only (I forget which does which, or if one or the
other is better, so I hit them both :) and then reboot..))



chips driver doesn't work anymore

2000-09-26 Thread Sjoerd Simons
Hi,
Please tell me if this isn't the right please to sent this mail.
I've been using the experimental debs from phase 1 and never had a problem,
untill phase2v9 and phase2v10. It seems that the chips driver is broken.

I've got a toshiba 320cdt laptop, with a C&T 6 video card. When i start
X, my machine completly hangs and the screen fades to white in a very weird
way. I've only seen this behaviour before when forcing wrong modelines,
(modelines that work on an external monitor but are wrong for the internal 
 lcd)...

X works alright when i replace chips_drv.o with an older version.
Unfortunately i can't supply any logs when using the newer version of the driver
, because when my machine enters graphical mode it hangs ;(

Gtnx Sjoerd

PS. please cc me in the replies, i'm not subscribed to the list, only browse
the archives from time to time.

PS2. Branden, thnx for the great work on the debs, even the phase 1 ones
have always worked perfectly for me.

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Re: [off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:56:31PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> I just realized (upon seeing my own messages failing to show up where I
> was looking for them) that the mailing list system has changed.  It used
> to be that I could read debian-x by snagging ~debian/lists/debian-x/*[0-9]
> on master.
> 
> Can someone remind me where I should be looking?

/org/lists.debian.org/lists/debian-x-0009

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Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias

2000-09-26 Thread David Starner

On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:24:24AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases 
> > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code 
> > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently 
> > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for 
> > > X, I figured I'd ask here first.
> > 
> > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I mentioned it on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it didn't sound like they would
> be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't
> think anyone else has a eo_EO locale.

I probably wouldn't apply that patch, since glibc2.2 doesn't have a eo_EO
locale, and eo_XX (which X supports) is closer to correct.

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[off topic] Where's the debian-x mail folder for september?

2000-09-26 Thread Raul Miller

I just realized (upon seeing my own messages failing to show up where I
was looking for them) that the mailing list system has changed.  It used
to be that I could read debian-x by snagging ~debian/lists/debian-x/*[0-9]
on master.

Can someone remind me where I should be looking?

Thanks,

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Re: chips driver doesn't work anymore

2000-09-26 Thread Seth Arnold

* Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000926 13:25]:
>   Please tell me if this isn't the right please to sent this mail.
> I've been using the experimental debs from phase 1 and never had a problem,
> untill phase2v9 and phase2v10. It seems that the chips driver is broken.

I do think [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be a better mailing list for these
questions, since it isn't specific to Debian. (I don't think.)

> X works alright when i replace chips_drv.o with an older version.
> Unfortunately i can't supply any logs when using the newer version of
> the driver , because when my machine enters graphical mode it hangs ;(

X should also be leaving logs in /var/log/XFree86.?.log -- probably
XFree86.0.log. (The ? corresponds with/to the display number, I think.)

Check to see if it writes it to disk. (Be sure also to either give the
machine plenty of time for the disk buffers to be flushed, or ensure
that you manually flush the disk buffers while rebooting, either via
telnetting/sshing into your computer and running shutdown normally, or
via the system request key if you have that enabled in your 2.2 or
higher kernel.. (the sysreq key does many neat things, but a sequence I
hit when my X dies on me is alt-sysreq s, alt-sysreq u, alt-sysreq r,
alt-sysreq b. That should sync the drives, and either umount them or
remount them read only (I forget which does which, or if one or the
other is better, so I hit them both :) and then reboot..))


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chips driver doesn't work anymore

2000-09-26 Thread Sjoerd Simons

Hi,
Please tell me if this isn't the right please to sent this mail.
I've been using the experimental debs from phase 1 and never had a problem,
untill phase2v9 and phase2v10. It seems that the chips driver is broken.

I've got a toshiba 320cdt laptop, with a C&T 6 video card. When i start
X, my machine completly hangs and the screen fades to white in a very weird
way. I've only seen this behaviour before when forcing wrong modelines,
(modelines that work on an external monitor but are wrong for the internal 
 lcd)...

X works alright when i replace chips_drv.o with an older version.
Unfortunately i can't supply any logs when using the newer version of the driver
, because when my machine enters graphical mode it hangs ;(

Gtnx Sjoerd

PS. please cc me in the replies, i'm not subscribed to the list, only browse
the archives from time to time.

PS2. Branden, thnx for the great work on the debs, even the phase 1 ones
have always worked perfectly for me.

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:47:02PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:20:38AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > 
> > And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
> > under-functional piles of code... :)
> 
> Well, I don't think this is a very productive thread, but... No.
> Imlib may have had some bugs (what doesn't) but raster was quite
> correct to observe the need for it, and he wrote a library to handle a
> variety of image formats at any colour depth, and the fast copying of
> them to the screen, and memory management of them.

I didn't say it was a bad idea.  Just that Rasterman didn't do a very good
job of programming it. :)  

> The GNOME project realised that he was right about its necessity,
> although they eventually diverged from him over implementation issues
> (differing priorities).  But I don't think it was particularly glitzy,
> no.

'Glitzy' can refer to a number of things.  Such as the ego involved in its
presentation.

> And imlib2 offers transparency, which you probably think is glitzy,
> but I think it is a useful user interface element given that modern
> graphics hardware is up to the task.

Again, 'glitzy' can refer to a number of things.  Features isn't glitz -
overglorified presentation of shoddily-implemented features is glitz.  If
it's implemented right and in a nice, non-obtrusive way, it's not glitz -
and as long as imlib2's interface is done in a non-obtrusive way, I
wouldn't consider it glitzy.

Anyway.  Sorry for hijacking this thread to be so off-topic.  I'll shut up
now. :)

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:20:38AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> 
> And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
> under-functional piles of code... :)

Well, I don't think this is a very productive thread, but... No.
Imlib may have had some bugs (what doesn't) but raster was quite
correct to observe the need for it, and he wrote a library to handle a
variety of image formats at any colour depth, and the fast copying of
them to the screen, and memory management of them.

The GNOME project realised that he was right about its necessity,
although they eventually diverged from him over implementation issues
(differing priorities).  But I don't think it was particularly glitzy,
no.

And imlib2 offers transparency, which you probably think is glitzy,
but I think it is a useful user interface element given that modern
graphics hardware is up to the task.

Jules

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:35:50AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:36:02AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > > How recent are we talking about here? I never noticed any problem with
> > > phase2v8, but in the past few days I haven't been running much X 
> > > applications
> > > apart from WindowMaker, xpdf, emacs, xterm and xscreensaver, and it has 
> > > never
> > > occured to me before to wonder how much any of these rely on shared 
> > > memory.
> > 
> > Not at all.  Shm is used msotly for things which do a lot of blitting, like
> > games and Rasterman's over-glitzy under-functional piles of code.
> 
> Well, anything which uses MIT-SHM.
> 
> In fact, if I'm not much mistaken, it's imlib which uses SHM (by
> default, can be turned off), so some versions of gnome will trigger
> the memory leaks too.

And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
under-functional piles of code... :)

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:47:02PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:20:38AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > 
> > And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
> > under-functional piles of code... :)
> 
> Well, I don't think this is a very productive thread, but... No.
> Imlib may have had some bugs (what doesn't) but raster was quite
> correct to observe the need for it, and he wrote a library to handle a
> variety of image formats at any colour depth, and the fast copying of
> them to the screen, and memory management of them.

I didn't say it was a bad idea.  Just that Rasterman didn't do a very good
job of programming it. :)  

> The GNOME project realised that he was right about its necessity,
> although they eventually diverged from him over implementation issues
> (differing priorities).  But I don't think it was particularly glitzy,
> no.

'Glitzy' can refer to a number of things.  Such as the ego involved in its
presentation.

> And imlib2 offers transparency, which you probably think is glitzy,
> but I think it is a useful user interface element given that modern
> graphics hardware is up to the task.

Again, 'glitzy' can refer to a number of things.  Features isn't glitz -
overglorified presentation of shoddily-implemented features is glitz.  If
it's implemented right and in a nice, non-obtrusive way, it's not glitz -
and as long as imlib2's interface is done in a non-obtrusive way, I
wouldn't consider it glitzy.

Anyway.  Sorry for hijacking this thread to be so off-topic.  I'll shut up
now. :)

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Re: g400, dri, and phase2v10

2000-09-26 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 09:24:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> Well, XFree86 CVS just resynced with the DRI at sourceforge, the Mesa
> version is now 3.4, etc. etc.  Maybe try a bleeding edge kernel?

That worked, but I also had to get rid of the binary driver from Matrox.
Although the change-log from Linus for 2.4.0-test9-pre7 doesn't mention any
changes to the dri stuff, I fetched the patch and looked at it manually.
Indeed, there were some relevant changes, including the major number change
from version 1 to version 2.

Thank you very much for your patience and help.

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Jules Bean

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:20:38AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> 
> And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
> under-functional piles of code... :)

Well, I don't think this is a very productive thread, but... No.
Imlib may have had some bugs (what doesn't) but raster was quite
correct to observe the need for it, and he wrote a library to handle a
variety of image formats at any colour depth, and the fast copying of
them to the screen, and memory management of them.

The GNOME project realised that he was right about its necessity,
although they eventually diverged from him over implementation issues
(differing priorities).  But I don't think it was particularly glitzy,
no.

And imlib2 offers transparency, which you probably think is glitzy,
but I think it is a useful user interface element given that modern
graphics hardware is up to the task.

Jules

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:35:50AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:36:02AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > > How recent are we talking about here? I never noticed any problem with
> > > phase2v8, but in the past few days I haven't been running much X applications
> > > apart from WindowMaker, xpdf, emacs, xterm and xscreensaver, and it has never
> > > occured to me before to wonder how much any of these rely on shared memory.
> > 
> > Not at all.  Shm is used msotly for things which do a lot of blitting, like
> > games and Rasterman's over-glitzy under-functional piles of code.
> 
> Well, anything which uses MIT-SHM.
> 
> In fact, if I'm not much mistaken, it's imlib which uses SHM (by
> default, can be turned off), so some versions of gnome will trigger
> the memory leaks too.

And, if I'm not mistaken, imlib is one of Rasterman's over-glitzy
under-functional piles of code... :)

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Re: g400, dri, and phase2v10

2000-09-26 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 09:24:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> Well, XFree86 CVS just resynced with the DRI at sourceforge, the Mesa
> version is now 3.4, etc. etc.  Maybe try a bleeding edge kernel?

That worked, but I also had to get rid of the binary driver from Matrox.
Although the change-log from Linus for 2.4.0-test9-pre7 doesn't mention any
changes to the dri stuff, I fetched the patch and looked at it manually.
Indeed, there were some relevant changes, including the major number change
from version 1 to version 2.

Thank you very much for your patience and help.

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:36:02AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > How recent are we talking about here? I never noticed any problem with
> > phase2v8, but in the past few days I haven't been running much X 
> > applications
> > apart from WindowMaker, xpdf, emacs, xterm and xscreensaver, and it has 
> > never
> > occured to me before to wonder how much any of these rely on shared memory.
> 
> Not at all.  Shm is used msotly for things which do a lot of blitting, like
> games and Rasterman's over-glitzy under-functional piles of code.

Well, anything which uses MIT-SHM.

In fact, if I'm not much mistaken, it's imlib which uses SHM (by
default, can be turned off), so some versions of gnome will trigger
the memory leaks too.

Jules



Eterm still not working with phase2v10

2000-09-26 Thread Adam McKenna
I'm not gettin SHM errors anymore, but Eterm is still displaying the same
behavior under phase2v10 that it was in v8, namely, doing nothing.  The
window comes up but I don't get a prompt.  Here are the last few lines of
an strace of the process:

select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\17\0S\1:\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\0<\376\3\237\2\237\2\1\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\ftS\1N\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\16\0\2\0\5\0\0\0\16\0\0\0\7\0\0"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1N\0\340\0\0\0\2\0\2\0\n\0\4\0W\10\310\6X\10\330"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\f\6S\1N\0\340\0\f\0\2\0\2\0\n\0\3\0\0\0\377\377\377\377"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\321S\1N\0\340\0\0\0\f\0\16\0\1\0\2\0002\10\310\6X\10"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\fPS\1N\0\340\0\0\0\r\0\2\0Y\0\1\0\'\10\1\0\0\0\0\345d"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\f\2S\1N\0\340\0\f\0\r\0\2\0Y\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1Q\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\n\0Y\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1O\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\0S\1E\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\352\1f\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\n\3S\1:\0\340\0\0\3564\10\0-b\10\34\366\377\277\302T\r"..., 32) =
32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\17\0S\1:\0\340\0\1\0\0\0\0<\376\3\237\2\237\2\1\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL 

This is using the tdfx driver.  I don't have any problems running Eterm on my
laptop with the NeoMagic driver.

This is Debian woody, X86/glibc 2.1.3

startx.log:

XFree86 Version 4.0.1c / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 28 August 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.17pre10 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Sep 26 01:01:12 2000
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Main Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Iiyama"
(**) |   |-->Device "Voodoo3"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) XKB: model: "microsoft"
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(--) PCI:*(1:5:0) 3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3 rev 1, Mem @ 0xec00/25, 
0xe000/25, I/O @ 0x9c00/8
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.1.7
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module GLX
(EE) Failed to load module "GLX" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module DRI
(EE) Failed to load module "DRI" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o
(II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) TDFX: Dr

Blur problem

2000-09-26 Thread Adam McKenna
I've been having this problem with X for a while now, on my Sony VAIO laptop.
Basically, the behavior I experience is shown at
http://flounder.net/blur.jpg .  It happens when I move a netscape window (or
some other apps) toward the edge of the screen.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?  I avoided submitting a bug on XF
3.6 because I knew that 4 would be out soon and that it was probably an
upstream thing.

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Re: SV: READ THIS; Debian XFree86 4.0.1 mini-FAQ

2000-09-26 Thread Jules Bean

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:36:02AM -0600, Joshua Shagam wrote:
> > How recent are we talking about here? I never noticed any problem with
> > phase2v8, but in the past few days I haven't been running much X applications
> > apart from WindowMaker, xpdf, emacs, xterm and xscreensaver, and it has never
> > occured to me before to wonder how much any of these rely on shared memory.
> 
> Not at all.  Shm is used msotly for things which do a lot of blitting, like
> games and Rasterman's over-glitzy under-functional piles of code.

Well, anything which uses MIT-SHM.

In fact, if I'm not much mistaken, it's imlib which uses SHM (by
default, can be turned off), so some versions of gnome will trigger
the memory leaks too.

Jules


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Eterm still not working with phase2v10

2000-09-26 Thread Adam McKenna

I'm not gettin SHM errors anymore, but Eterm is still displaying the same
behavior under phase2v10 that it was in v8, namely, doing nothing.  The
window comes up but I don't get a prompt.  Here are the last few lines of
an strace of the process:

select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\17\0S\1:\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\0<\376\3\237\2\237\2\1\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\ftS\1N\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\16\0\2\0\5\0\0\0\16\0\0\0\7\0\0"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1N\0\340\0\0\0\2\0\2\0\n\0\4\0W\10\310\6X\10\330"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\f\6S\1N\0\340\0\f\0\2\0\2\0\n\0\3\0\0\0\377\377\377\377"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\321S\1N\0\340\0\0\0\f\0\16\0\1\0\2\0002\10\310\6X\10"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\fPS\1N\0\340\0\0\0\r\0\2\0Y\0\1\0\'\10\1\0\0\0\0\345d"..., 32) = 32
read(3, "\f\2S\1N\0\340\0\f\0\r\0\2\0Y\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1Q\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\n\0Y\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\2S\1O\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, "\f\0S\1E\0\340\0\0\0\0\0\352\1f\0\0\0\0\0008\2502\10<\365"..., 32) =
32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\n\3S\1:\0\340\0\0\3564\10\0-b\10\34\366\377\277\302T\r"..., 32) =
32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\17\0S\1:\0\340\0\1\0\0\0\0<\376\3\237\2\237\2\1\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32
read(3, 0xb610, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL 

This is using the tdfx driver.  I don't have any problems running Eterm on my
laptop with the NeoMagic driver.

This is Debian woody, X86/glibc 2.1.3

startx.log:

XFree86 Version 4.0.1c / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 28 August 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.17pre10 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Sep 26 01:01:12 2000
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Main Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Iiyama"
(**) |   |-->Device "Voodoo3"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) XKB: model: "microsoft"
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(--) PCI:*(1:5:0) 3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3 rev 1, Mem @ 0xec00/25, 0xe000/25, 
I/O @ 0x9c00/8
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.1.7
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module GLX
(EE) Failed to load module "GLX" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module DRI
(EE) Failed to load module "DRI" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o
(II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(II) TDFX: D

Blur problem

2000-09-26 Thread Adam McKenna

I've been having this problem with X for a while now, on my Sony VAIO laptop.
Basically, the behavior I experience is shown at
http://flounder.net/blur.jpg .  It happens when I move a netscape window (or
some other apps) toward the edge of the screen.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?  I avoided submitting a bug on XF
3.6 because I knew that 4 would be out soon and that it was probably an
upstream thing.

--Adam

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