Re: dexter making assumptions about font server (and screen resolution)
Branden Robinson wrote: > > FontPath"unix/:7100" # local font server > > Yes. Read the next line as well. > > > X refused to start. The screen went blank and then nothing happened. > > Commenting out the FontPath line above made it work again. > > I seriously doubt this. If the font server isn't running and there are > other font path elements defined, the X server will try to use them. Yes, that's how I thought it would work, which is one of the reasons I thought the error was somewhere else. What can I say? I started with a basic, dexter-generated XF86Config-4. X hung. After trying several other things first I removed that line. X worked. I put the line back. X hung. And so on. Ok, so I jumped to conclusions. Since then I've repeated the above experiment with the same result. I've also tried putting the line back and installing the font server. X worked (once I remembered to actually start the font server). But I also tried it without the font server, but with kernel version 2.2.17 instead of 2.4.0-test9, and with that setup X also worked. I'm no longer sure what to believe. I'm not aware of any major differences in configuration between the two kernels. (Some pathetic testing with tcplisten/tcpconnect yielded the same result on both.) > Ah, you mean something that which already exists as the "medium" option in > the monitor configuration section? Exactly. I couldn't find any setting that affected the Modes line in the Screen section, and I didn't realize there were other ways to affect the screen resolution. I'm sorry, I made a foolish assumption. I plead insanity. Or incompetence. (Judging by your comments I should have an iron-clad case either way.) Torbjörn Andersson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phase2v21
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:51:29PM -0500, Derek J Witt wrote: > Yep, that's exactly what I do. And alas, no ill effects. My keyboard > still behaves properly. I meant before (re-)installing xlibs phase2v21. :) -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux| Mob rule isn't any prettier just because [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you call your mob a government. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgp6AOHqJIw1B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: phase2v21
Yep, that's exactly what I do. And alas, no ill effects. My keyboard still behaves properly. ** Derek J Witt ** * Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ * *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown **
Re: phase2v21
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 07:17:05PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: > Is this supposed to happen? Yes, except to people upgrading from 3.3.6. (Except that part is broken in v21, will be fixed in v22.) Upgrades between versions of the experimental packages are not supported. Just rm -r /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb and you will be fine. -- G. Branden Robinson |There's nothing an agnostic can't do Debian GNU/Linux|if he doesn't know whether he believes [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in it or not. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Graham Chapman pgpS1l44JLp79.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: phase2v21
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Stephen Crowley wrote: > Is this supposed to happen? > > Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-0phase2v20 (using > .../xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb) ... > Warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is a directory that should be a > symbolic link. Packages containing files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults > need to move them to /etc/X11/app-defaults instead; they will not be used > by the X Window System until they are moved. > > ERROR: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb exists and is not a symbolic link. > The xlibs package cannot be installed until this directory is removed. > Aborting installation of xlibs package. > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb (--unpack): > subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 This happened to me too. I just moved the xkb dir to where it told me to, and it installed properly. Not tested yet (no reason to turn off X). sam th [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.abisource.com/~sam/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCABD33FC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE59NaZt+kM0Mq9M/wRAsosAJ0ebv/tbMsdhysylcDv0QT4GtEwyQCgzKHS E+IEyXeA+y4q5Qml/usVjvw= =O62l -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: phase2v21
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:51:29PM -0500, Derek J Witt wrote: > Yep, that's exactly what I do. And alas, no ill effects. My keyboard > still behaves properly. I meant before (re-)installing xlibs phase2v21. :) -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux| Mob rule isn't any prettier just because [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you call your mob a government. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | PGP signature
phase2v21
Is this supposed to happen? Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-0phase2v20 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb) ... Warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is a directory that should be a symbolic link. Packages containing files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults need to move them to /etc/X11/app-defaults instead; they will not be used by the X Window System until they are moved. ERROR: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb exists and is not a symbolic link. The xlibs package cannot be installed until this directory is removed. Aborting installation of xlibs package. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Stephen -- "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning... Believe in nothing."
Re: phase2v21
Yep, that's exactly what I do. And alas, no ill effects. My keyboard still behaves properly. ** Derek J Witt ** * Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ * *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phase2v21
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 07:17:05PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: > Is this supposed to happen? Yes, except to people upgrading from 3.3.6. (Except that part is broken in v21, will be fixed in v22.) Upgrades between versions of the experimental packages are not supported. Just rm -r /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb and you will be fine. -- G. Branden Robinson |There's nothing an agnostic can't do Debian GNU/Linux|if he doesn't know whether he believes [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in it or not. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Graham Chapman PGP signature
xf86cfg completely broken in v21?!
Hello
After upgrading to v21 and restarting X:
-=([EMAIL PROTECTED])=(pts/0)=(01:14:50|24)=-
-=(~)$ sudo xf86cfg
Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.1
Loader running on linux
Illegal instruction
...strace´ed:
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=272,
...}) = 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb16.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
st_size=163434, ...}) = 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=200594,
...}) = 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=139124,
...}) = 0
getdents(5, /* 0 entries */, 3933) = 0
close(5)= 0
--- SIGILL (Ungueltiger Maschinenbefehl) ---
+++ killed by SIGILL +++
bye,
-christian-
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Re: phase2v21
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Stephen Crowley wrote: > Is this supposed to happen? > > Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-0phase2v20 (using >.../xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb) ... > Warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is a directory that should be a > symbolic link. Packages containing files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults > need to move them to /etc/X11/app-defaults instead; they will not be used > by the X Window System until they are moved. > > ERROR: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb exists and is not a symbolic link. > The xlibs package cannot be installed until this directory is removed. > Aborting installation of xlibs package. > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb >(--unpack): > subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 This happened to me too. I just moved the xkb dir to where it told me to, and it installed properly. Not tested yet (no reason to turn off X). sam th [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.abisource.com/~sam/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCABD33FC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE59NaZt+kM0Mq9M/wRAsosAJ0ebv/tbMsdhysylcDv0QT4GtEwyQCgzKHS E+IEyXeA+y4q5Qml/usVjvw= =O62l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phase2v21
Is this supposed to happen? Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-0phase2v20 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb) ... Warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is a directory that should be a symbolic link. Packages containing files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults need to move them to /etc/X11/app-defaults instead; they will not be used by the X Window System until they are moved. ERROR: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb exists and is not a symbolic link. The xlibs package cannot be installed until this directory is removed. Aborting installation of xlibs package. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-0phase2v21_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Stephen -- "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning... Believe in nothing." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xf86cfg completely broken in v21?!
Hello
After upgrading to v21 and restarting X:
-=(ch@lathspell)=(pts/0)=(01:14:50|24)=-
-=(~)$ sudo xf86cfg
Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.1
Loader running on linux
Illegal instruction
...strace´ed:
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=272, ...}) = 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb16.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=163434, ...})
= 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=200594, ...}) = 0
stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=139124, ...}) = 0
getdents(5, /* 0 entries */, 3933) = 0
close(5)= 0
--- SIGILL (Ungueltiger Maschinenbefehl) ---
+++ killed by SIGILL +++
bye,
-christian-
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Re:
Branden Robinson Wrote:
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:47:33PM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote:
>> Branden has made the decision that xutils isn't needed on all systems.
>> He suggests that reading the package description for xfonts-* will say
>> what is needed.
>>
>> Considering the number of people that have asked about this, perhaps
>> this should be re-thought? Or, perhaps, a package
>> "x-most-people-should-install-this" should be made available with
>> dependencies upon one of {xfonts-100dpi,xfonts-75dpi} and xutils.
>
>Or I can update the X task packages to haul in xutils, which has always
>been my intention.
If mkfontdir is part of xutils, and people need mkfontdir to install the font
packages, then how can the font packages not use xutils?
The description for xfonts-* says:
>This package requires the xutils package to prepare the font directories for
>use by an X server or X font server. However, once this preparation has been
>done, xutils is no longer needed and may be removed.
OK, but what about when the package is upgraded?
I really don't see how this makes sense. You are deliberately doing
something that the packaging system was designed to prevent. Why? To save 2
megs? People who need space that badly can remove xutils with
--force-depends.
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Re: 3 button emulation
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I can't seem to get 3 button emulation working in X4 on my laptop.. > When X uses a default setting of 3 buttons I can use 3 buttons on > an external mouse, but when I don't use an external mouse and only > have the two buttons on the laptop itself I'm stuck.. enabling > Emulate3Buttons doesn't seem to work at all. What model of laptop is this, and what X mouse protcol are you using? -- G. Branden Robinson | Religion is something left over from the Debian GNU/Linux| infancy of our intelligence; it will [EMAIL PROTECTED] | fade away as we adopt reason and science http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | as our guidelines. -- Bertrand Russell pgpIO930MgVDV.pgp Description: PGP signature
3 button emulation
I can't seem to get 3 button emulation working in X4 on my laptop.. When X uses a default setting of 3 buttons I can use 3 buttons on an external mouse, but when I don't use an external mouse and only have the two buttons on the laptop itself I'm stuck.. enabling Emulate3Buttons doesn't seem to work at all. If I force the number of buttons to 2 than only the first button works and the second (third actually in X terminology) doesn't do anything at all.. Is there any way to force emulate3buttons behaviour with 3 buttons? That would solve my problems I reckon. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D |
Re:
Branden Robinson Wrote:
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:47:33PM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote:
>> Branden has made the decision that xutils isn't needed on all systems.
>> He suggests that reading the package description for xfonts-* will say
>> what is needed.
>>
>> Considering the number of people that have asked about this, perhaps
>> this should be re-thought? Or, perhaps, a package
>> "x-most-people-should-install-this" should be made available with
>> dependencies upon one of {xfonts-100dpi,xfonts-75dpi} and xutils.
>
>Or I can update the X task packages to haul in xutils, which has always
>been my intention.
If mkfontdir is part of xutils, and people need mkfontdir to install the font
packages, then how can the font packages not use xutils?
The description for xfonts-* says:
>This package requires the xutils package to prepare the font directories for
>use by an X server or X font server. However, once this preparation has been
>done, xutils is no longer needed and may be removed.
OK, but what about when the package is upgraded?
I really don't see how this makes sense. You are deliberately doing
something that the packaging system was designed to prevent. Why? To save 2
megs? People who need space that badly can remove xutils with
--force-depends.
--Adam
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Re: 3 button emulation
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I can't seem to get 3 button emulation working in X4 on my laptop.. > When X uses a default setting of 3 buttons I can use 3 buttons on > an external mouse, but when I don't use an external mouse and only > have the two buttons on the laptop itself I'm stuck.. enabling > Emulate3Buttons doesn't seem to work at all. What model of laptop is this, and what X mouse protcol are you using? -- G. Branden Robinson | Religion is something left over from the Debian GNU/Linux| infancy of our intelligence; it will [EMAIL PROTECTED] | fade away as we adopt reason and science http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | as our guidelines. -- Bertrand Russell PGP signature
3 button emulation
I can't seem to get 3 button emulation working in X4 on my laptop.. When X uses a default setting of 3 buttons I can use 3 buttons on an external mouse, but when I don't use an external mouse and only have the two buttons on the laptop itself I'm stuck.. enabling Emulate3Buttons doesn't seem to work at all. If I force the number of buttons to 2 than only the first button works and the second (third actually in X terminology) doesn't do anything at all.. Is there any way to force emulate3buttons behaviour with 3 buttons? That would solve my problems I reckon. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vigu@ctv.es: XFree 4.0 on Potato]
Javier, PLEASE do not send mail to Branden. This is mentioned in numerous documents! I have a HOWTO up at http://cpbotha.net/building_brandens_phase2_debs_on_potato.HOWTO This should have enough instructions for you to build Branden's deb source packages on a potato system. On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:36:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > From: Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: XFree 4.0 on Potato > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:09:34 +0200 > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i > X-Operating-System: Linux akela 2.2.17 > > Hello Branden, my name is Javier Viñuales and I'm the head of a software and > documentation project called "Proyecto La Espiral". We are making a set of > packages to update and extend the capabilities of Debian GNU/'Kernel' 'Stable > Version' (today only Linux kernel has a CD La Espiral made but we are > working on HURD... stable version?, well, you know, isn't it? :-)). > > Meny people had asked us for a XFree 4.0 distribution to install on Debian > GNU/Linux 2.2 but we don't know if this is very difficult or not because the > dependences of another packages which are in Woody but aren't in Potato, is > all right?. > > We'll thank any help from you. > PS: Sorry, my english is horrible :-?? > -- > Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal > PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey > -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/
[vigu@ctv.es: XFree 4.0 on Potato]
I don't even know where to begin with this person... - Forwarded message from Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: XFree 4.0 on Potato Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:09:34 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-Operating-System: Linux akela 2.2.17 Hello Branden, my name is Javier Viñuales and I'm the head of a software and documentation project called "Proyecto La Espiral". We are making a set of packages to update and extend the capabilities of Debian GNU/'Kernel' 'Stable Version' (today only Linux kernel has a CD La Espiral made but we are working on HURD... stable version?, well, you know, isn't it? :-)). Meny people had asked us for a XFree 4.0 distribution to install on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 but we don't know if this is very difficult or not because the dependences of another packages which are in Woody but aren't in Potato, is all right?. We'll thank any help from you. PS: Sorry, my english is horrible :-?? -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson|You don't just decide to break Kubrick's Debian GNU/Linux |code of silence and then get drawn away [EMAIL PROTECTED] |from it to a discussion about cough http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ |medicine. pgpjVgNuzzCre.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xmessage
This same "resize and it appears" behaviour is on RedHat 7, at least so I've heard from the RedHat developers I know. Seemingly there's a fix in the XFree CVS in file ".../xc/programs/xmessage/makeform.c" between v1.4 and v1.5 for this very problem. Kenny. > "Torbjörn" == Torbjörn Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Torbjörn> Frank Belew wrote: >> The problem is that when I did "xmessage -f >> /path/to/messagefile" it showed no real text, just an empty >> white box, and an Ok button. Torbjörn> Stupid question, perhaps, but is the box still empty if Torbjörn> you increase the size of the window? I've only used Torbjörn> xmessage for one-liners, but ever since I started using Torbjörn> XFree86 4.0.1 I had to resize the xmessage window to be Torbjörn> at least one pixel taller than it is by default, or the Torbjörn> text area would appear as just an empty box. Torbjörn> This happenes both with the Debian packages, and with Torbjörn> the version I compiled myself when 4.0.1 was first Torbjörn> released. It would be interesting to know if it happens Torbjörn> to anyone else or if I'm the only one seeing it. (I Torbjörn> tried reporting it upstreams but I so far I haven't Torbjörn> heard anything about it.) -- Kenny ADML Support, EUCS, The University of Edinburgh, Scotland.
Re: [vigu@ctv.es: XFree 4.0 on Potato]
Javier, PLEASE do not send mail to Branden. This is mentioned in numerous documents! I have a HOWTO up at http://cpbotha.net/building_brandens_phase2_debs_on_potato.HOWTO This should have enough instructions for you to build Branden's deb source packages on a potato system. On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:36:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > From: Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: XFree 4.0 on Potato > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:09:34 +0200 > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <20001023110934.A15314@ctv> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i > X-Operating-System: Linux akela 2.2.17 > > Hello Branden, my name is Javier Viñuales and I'm the head of a software and > documentation project called "Proyecto La Espiral". We are making a set of > packages to update and extend the capabilities of Debian GNU/'Kernel' 'Stable > Version' (today only Linux kernel has a CD La Espiral made but we are > working on HURD... stable version?, well, you know, isn't it? :-)). > > Meny people had asked us for a XFree 4.0 distribution to install on Debian > GNU/Linux 2.2 but we don't know if this is very difficult or not because the > dependences of another packages which are in Woody but aren't in Potato, is > all right?. > > We'll thank any help from you. > PS: Sorry, my english is horrible :-?? > -- > Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal > PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey > -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[vigu@ctv.es: XFree 4.0 on Potato]
I don't even know where to begin with this person... - Forwarded message from Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: XFree 4.0 on Potato Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:09:34 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <20001023110934.A15314@ctv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-Operating-System: Linux akela 2.2.17 Hello Branden, my name is Javier Viñuales and I'm the head of a software and documentation project called "Proyecto La Espiral". We are making a set of packages to update and extend the capabilities of Debian GNU/'Kernel' 'Stable Version' (today only Linux kernel has a CD La Espiral made but we are working on HURD... stable version?, well, you know, isn't it? :-)). Meny people had asked us for a XFree 4.0 distribution to install on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 but we don't know if this is very difficult or not because the dependences of another packages which are in Woody but aren't in Potato, is all right?. We'll thank any help from you. PS: Sorry, my english is horrible :-?? -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson|You don't just decide to break Kubrick's Debian GNU/Linux |code of silence and then get drawn away [EMAIL PROTECTED] |from it to a discussion about cough http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ |medicine. PGP signature
Re: xmessage
This same "resize and it appears" behaviour is on RedHat 7, at least so I've heard from the RedHat developers I know. Seemingly there's a fix in the XFree CVS in file ".../xc/programs/xmessage/makeform.c" between v1.4 and v1.5 for this very problem. Kenny. > "Torbjörn" == Torbjörn Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Torbjörn> Frank Belew wrote: >> The problem is that when I did "xmessage -f >> /path/to/messagefile" it showed no real text, just an empty >> white box, and an Ok button. Torbjörn> Stupid question, perhaps, but is the box still empty if Torbjörn> you increase the size of the window? I've only used Torbjörn> xmessage for one-liners, but ever since I started using Torbjörn> XFree86 4.0.1 I had to resize the xmessage window to be Torbjörn> at least one pixel taller than it is by default, or the Torbjörn> text area would appear as just an empty box. Torbjörn> This happenes both with the Debian packages, and with Torbjörn> the version I compiled myself when 4.0.1 was first Torbjörn> released. It would be interesting to know if it happens Torbjörn> to anyone else or if I'm the only one seeing it. (I Torbjörn> tried reporting it upstreams but I so far I haven't Torbjörn> heard anything about it.) -- Kenny ADML Support, EUCS, The University of Edinburgh, Scotland. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dexter making assumptions about font server (and screen resol ution)
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Torbjörn Andersson wrote: > > Dexter seems to assume that I am running a local font server, which > > I'm not. > > It doesn't assume you do, it assumes you CAN, which is true. > > > The problem is that as long as my XF86Config-4 contained the > > line > > > > FontPath"unix/:7100" # local font server > > Yes. Read the next line as well. > > > X refused to start. The screen went blank and then nothing happened. > > Commenting out the FontPath line above made it work again. > > I seriously doubt this. If the font server isn't running and there are > other font path elements defined, the X server will try to use them. I've had the same happen on me with 3.3.6-10 on an out-of-the-box potato. For some odd reason the font server (xfs-xtt) crashed and after I logged out, gdm never got around to showing a login dialog. Turned out that the X server kept crashing with a "can't find font fixed" message (well something to that extent). FYI, my XF86Config says amongst other things: Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" EndSection and I have at least the following fonts packages installed: ii xfonts-75dpi 3.3.6-275 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-base3.3.6-2standard fonts for X ii xfonts-scalabl 3.3.6-2scalable fonts for X -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
Re: xmessage
Frank Belew wrote: > The problem is that when I did "xmessage -f /path/to/messagefile" > it showed no real text, just an empty white box, and an Ok button. Stupid question, perhaps, but is the box still empty if you increase the size of the window? I've only used xmessage for one-liners, but ever since I started using XFree86 4.0.1 I had to resize the xmessage window to be at least one pixel taller than it is by default, or the text area would appear as just an empty box. This happenes both with the Debian packages, and with the version I compiled myself when 4.0.1 was first released. It would be interesting to know if it happens to anyone else or if I'm the only one seeing it. (I tried reporting it upstreams but I so far I haven't heard anything about it.) Torbjörn Andersson
Re: [muhgatus@xmn-berlin.de: 4.0.1 patch phase2v20]
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 01:22:17AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Mercury, wanna answer this? Sure. > > - Forwarded message from Sven Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Sven Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 4.0.1 patch phase2v20 > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:58:44 +0200 (CEST) > > Hihoo > > where can a get a patch for 3dfx's GlideSDK or where do i find the > debianpackages ? .. this seems to be the only problem up to now .. i keep > on compiling ;) For glide2 the packages are in woody, for glide3 they are at http://whitestar.soark.net/~warp/glide3, note that there are still a number of issues with X4 and the Voodoo 4 and Voodoo 5 cards. Zephaniah E. Hull. (The Debian glide maintainer.) > > bye .. das MUH! > > -- > Nicht alles aus dem Hause Microsoft ist Schrott. Es sind nur 90%. Und es > funktioniert schon nach dem 5. gekauften Update. > Microsoftprogramme bestechen durch die Vielzahl der Moeglichkeiten > abzustuerzen. > > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > G. Branden Robinson|You can have my PGP passphrase when you > Debian GNU/Linux |pry it from my cold, dead brain. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Adam Thornton > http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | -- PGP EA5198D1-Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-GPG E65A7801 Keys available at http://whitestar.soark.net/~warp/public_keys. CCs of replies from mailing lists are encouraged. If the user points the gun at his foot and pulls the trigger, it is our job to ensure the bullet gets where it's supposed to. pgpsCJKCC0UzU.pgp Description: PGP signature
[muhgatus@xmn-berlin.de: 4.0.1 patch phase2v20]
Mercury, wanna answer this? - Forwarded message from Sven Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Sven Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 4.0.1 patch phase2v20 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:58:44 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hihoo where can a get a patch for 3dfx's GlideSDK or where do i find the debianpackages ? .. this seems to be the only problem up to now .. i keep on compiling ;) bye .. das MUH! -- Nicht alles aus dem Hause Microsoft ist Schrott. Es sind nur 90%. Und es funktioniert schon nach dem 5. gekauften Update. Microsoftprogramme bestechen durch die Vielzahl der Moeglichkeiten abzustuerzen. - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson|You can have my PGP passphrase when you Debian GNU/Linux |pry it from my cold, dead brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Adam Thornton http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | pgpCo4X6X9r0a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dexter making assumptions about font server (and screen resolution)
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Torbjörn Andersson wrote:
> Dexter seems to assume that I am running a local font server, which
> I'm not.
It doesn't assume you do, it assumes you CAN, which is true.
> The problem is that as long as my XF86Config-4 contained the
> line
>
> FontPath"unix/:7100" # local font server
Yes. Read the next line as well.
> X refused to start. The screen went blank and then nothing happened.
> Commenting out the FontPath line above made it work again.
I seriously doubt this. If the font server isn't running and there are
other font path elements defined, the X server will try to use them.
> While I view the output from dexter as friendly advice, rather than a
> final decision, this was by no means obvious to me. Perhaps it should
> have been, but... The last line in my /var/log/XFree86.0.log was
>
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
>
> which had me barking up the wrong tree since I thought it meant there
> was something wrong with the mouse configuration.
If you think input device drivers and mice have anything to do with fonts,
then you're probably in need of more help than I or dexter can give you.
> This happens both in phase2v17 and phase2v20. (I know this because at
> first I thought it was a problem with the CVS snapshot that v20 is
> based on, so I reverted back to v17 only to find that it still didn't
> work. Had me worried for a while there, I can tell you.)
Dexter is icing. You don't need it at all. You're perfectly free to write
your own XF86Config{-4} file from scratch.
If you don't like what Dexter does, abort it when it runs and write your
own XF86Config file.
> (I know this isn't a support list, but is there any reason I should
> have a font server installed, considering that my computer isn't
> connected to any network whatsoever?)
Yes. The X server won't hang all your clients while rasterizing a font.
> I don't know what the future plans for Dexter are, but it would be
> nice if it would let me choose maximum screen resolution since the
> default behaviour apparently is to give me 1920x1440 which is far too
> much for my taste. Maybe something as simple as this would work...
>
[...]
Ah, you mean something that which already exists as the "medium" option in
the monitor configuration section?
> But apart from these problems, Xnest crashing, and some DRI-related issues
> (which I shouldn't bring up here anyway), X has been working flawlessly. My
> thanks to the XFree86 team, Branden, and whoever else is making this
> possible.
I appreciate your thanks, but your criticism would be more constructive if
it were better informed.
--
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Re: dexter making assumptions about font server (and screen resol ution)
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Torbjörn Andersson wrote: > > Dexter seems to assume that I am running a local font server, which > > I'm not. > > It doesn't assume you do, it assumes you CAN, which is true. > > > The problem is that as long as my XF86Config-4 contained the > > line > > > > FontPath"unix/:7100" # local font server > > Yes. Read the next line as well. > > > X refused to start. The screen went blank and then nothing happened. > > Commenting out the FontPath line above made it work again. > > I seriously doubt this. If the font server isn't running and there are > other font path elements defined, the X server will try to use them. I've had the same happen on me with 3.3.6-10 on an out-of-the-box potato. For some odd reason the font server (xfs-xtt) crashed and after I logged out, gdm never got around to showing a login dialog. Turned out that the X server kept crashing with a "can't find font fixed" message (well something to that extent). FYI, my XF86Config says amongst other things: Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" EndSection and I have at least the following fonts packages installed: ii xfonts-75dpi 3.3.6-275 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-base3.3.6-2standard fonts for X ii xfonts-scalabl 3.3.6-2scalable fonts for X -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dexter making assumptions about font server (and screen resolution)
Dexter seems to assume that I am running a local font server, which I'm not. The problem is that as long as my XF86Config-4 contained the line FontPath"unix/:7100" # local font server X refused to start. The screen went blank and then nothing happened. Commenting out the FontPath line above made it work again. While I view the output from dexter as friendly advice, rather than a final decision, this was by no means obvious to me. Perhaps it should have been, but... The last line in my /var/log/XFree86.0.log was (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Mouse" (type: MOUSE) which had me barking up the wrong tree since I thought it meant there was something wrong with the mouse configuration. This happens both in phase2v17 and phase2v20. (I know this because at first I thought it was a problem with the CVS snapshot that v20 is based on, so I reverted back to v17 only to find that it still didn't work. Had me worried for a while there, I can tell you.) (I know this isn't a support list, but is there any reason I should have a font server installed, considering that my computer isn't connected to any network whatsoever?) I don't know what the future plans for Dexter are, but it would be nice if it would let me choose maximum screen resolution since the default behaviour apparently is to give me 1920x1440 which is far too much for my taste. Maybe something as simple as this would work... dialog --cr-wrap --backtitle "Screen Resolution" \ --title "Choose Max Screen Resolution" --menu \ "Select your desired maximum screen resolution from the list below." \ 20 75 9 \ "1" "1920x1440" \ "2" "1856x1392" \ "3" "1792x1344" \ "4" "1600x1200" \ "5" "1280x960" \ "6" "1152x864" \ "7" "1024x768" \ "8" "800x600" \ "9" "640x480" \ 2> $DEXTERTMPDIR/prompt RESOLUTIONS=$(echo "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" \ "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" | \ cut --delim=' ' --fields=$(cat $DEXTERTMPDIR/prompt)- \ $DEXTERTMPDIR/Resolutions) but I'm not really used to dialog. Or shell scripts. Or... But apart from these problems, Xnest crashing, and some DRI-related issues (which I shouldn't bring up here anyway), X has been working flawlessly. My thanks to the XFree86 team, Branden, and whoever else is making this possible. Torbjörn Andersson
Re: xmessage
Frank Belew wrote: > The problem is that when I did "xmessage -f /path/to/messagefile" > it showed no real text, just an empty white box, and an Ok button. Stupid question, perhaps, but is the box still empty if you increase the size of the window? I've only used xmessage for one-liners, but ever since I started using XFree86 4.0.1 I had to resize the xmessage window to be at least one pixel taller than it is by default, or the text area would appear as just an empty box. This happenes both with the Debian packages, and with the version I compiled myself when 4.0.1 was first released. It would be interesting to know if it happens to anyone else or if I'm the only one seeing it. (I tried reporting it upstreams but I so far I haven't heard anything about it.) Torbjörn Andersson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
