Re: [sjaensch@gmx.net: Issues regarding XFree4 and NVidia drivers]

2000-11-21 Thread Ketil Malde


This is probably the problem with 2.4 and no font server running.  If
you check the log output, I bet the last message is probing the mouse.

Try commenting out the font server from XF86Config-4, or
alternatively (which I haven't tested), run a local font server before
you start X. 

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Re: Bug#77511: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]

2000-11-21 Thread Ketil Malde

"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  This is correct, it goes like this:

Looks like I'd got it right then.  I really recommend the DRI user
guide at sourceforge
http://dri.sourceforge.net/DRIuserguide.html
it gives, I think, a nice overview.

>  * 3dfx DRM kernel module

Apparently, it doesn't work with DRM compiled into a monolithic
kernel?  When I change the default setting to 16bpp, I get another
signal 11.  I'm probably going to file another bug report, but I want
to play around a bit.  It seems like it's DRM that's the problem:

8< X OUTPUT 8<

  (--) Chipset 3dfx Banshee found
[...]
  (**) TDFX(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
[...]
  (II) TDFX(0): initializing int10
  (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
  (II) TDFX(0): VESA BIOS detected
  (II) TDFX(0): VESA VBE DDC supported
  (WW) TDFX(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xe200,0x200)
  (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 10.99 MB
  (0): [drm] created "tdfx" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0"
  (0): [drm] added 4096 byte SAREA at 0xc917
  (0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc917 to 0x40017000
  (0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe200
  (0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
  (EE) TDFX(0): TDFXDRIScreenInit failed (DRM version = 0.0.1, expected 1.0.x).  
Disabling DRI.
  (0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler

  Fatal server error:
  Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

8< END 8<

I've reconfigured the kernel to use a module, but haven't gotten
around to compile/install/testing it yet.  Get back to you on this. 

Still using a Banshee and a 2.4 test kernel.

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Re: [giuliano@ronchiato.it: X 4.0.1-6: problems]

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold

Giuliano, I posted much the same question as your #1 yesterday, and
someone had posted a response to my question shortly after I asked.
Check the debian-x archives for their response. :)

Regarding xf86cfg, this is to be expected. It is not nearly ready to be
called a production tool. You can use dexter(1) to generate an
XF86Config-4 file, or you can write one yourself. (See XF86Config(5).)

And, I haven't a clue how to make the keyboard go.

* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 22:41]:
> - Forwarded message from Giuliano Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Giuliano Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: X 4.0.1-6: problems
> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:28:48 +0100
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.15 i686)
> X-Accept-Language: it, en
> 
> Dear Mr. Branden, I'm Giuliano Grandin and I write from Italy.
> 
> I have three problemss.
> 
> 1.
> I have just downloaded Xfree 4.0.1-6, but at the end of the process of
> upgrading from 4.0.1-5, I got an error message and couldn't go on in any
> way.
> 
> The message said that there was an error in the post-installation script
> of xserver-xfree86, the code number is 1 (one).
> 
> Neither `dpkg --configure --pending', nor `apt-get -f install' could
> resolve the situation.
> 
> 2.
> All the versions of XFree 4 gave me a message, and I can't use the keys
> of the italian keyboard obtained by pressing  and another key
> (for the at-sign for emails, for example).
> This is the message:
> 
> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> > Error:Can't find file "xfree86" for keycodes include
> >   Exiting
> >   Abandoning keycodes file "default"
> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
> Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
> 
> 
> 3.
> xf86cfg hangs when I use it: if I use  I can exit
> it.
> 
> Can you give me some help, please? Some docs to read?
> 
> tia
> Giuliano Grandin
> 
> - End forwarded message -
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Re: [andreas@schuldei.org: xterm keyboard]

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold

On top of that, if he wants harsh, he should read posts by Theo de Raadt
or D.J. Bernstein (sp?) some time. Someone even drew a rough picture of
Theo clubbing someone for not reading manpages. >:-> Hehehe. 

* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 22:41]:
> I'm not even sure what he's talking about.  Most North Americans know
> nothing of deadkeys.  I'm certainly among them.  (I know what they are, but
> none of the specifics he seems to expect.)
> 
> - Forwarded message from Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: xterm keyboard
> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:09:10 +0100
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
> 
> Does your keybord support e.g. Alt-. and friends? Mine (german nodeadkeys)
> never did. other terminals (kde or gnome terminals for example) work well. 
> 
> I looked at your privat website and was surprised at how young and normal you
> look. You sound much harsher on the mailinglists... 
> 
> - End forwarded message -
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[giuliano@ronchiato.it: X 4.0.1-6: problems]

2000-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson

- Forwarded message from Giuliano Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: Giuliano Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X 4.0.1-6: problems
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:28:48 +0100
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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X-Accept-Language: it, en

Dear Mr. Branden, I'm Giuliano Grandin and I write from Italy.

I have three problemss.

1.
I have just downloaded Xfree 4.0.1-6, but at the end of the process of
upgrading from 4.0.1-5, I got an error message and couldn't go on in any
way.

The message said that there was an error in the post-installation script
of xserver-xfree86, the code number is 1 (one).

Neither `dpkg --configure --pending', nor `apt-get -f install' could
resolve the situation.

2.
All the versions of XFree 4 gave me a message, and I can't use the keys
of the italian keyboard obtained by pressing  and another key
(for the at-sign for emails, for example).
This is the message:

The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error:Can't find file "xfree86" for keycodes include
>   Exiting
>   Abandoning keycodes file "default"
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap


3.
xf86cfg hangs when I use it: if I use  I can exit
it.

Can you give me some help, please? Some docs to read?

tia
Giuliano Grandin

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[andreas@schuldei.org: xterm keyboard]

2000-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson

I'm not even sure what he's talking about.  Most North Americans know
nothing of deadkeys.  I'm certainly among them.  (I know what they are, but
none of the specifics he seems to expect.)

- Forwarded message from Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xterm keyboard
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:09:10 +0100
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

Does your keybord support e.g. Alt-. and friends? Mine (german nodeadkeys)
never did. other terminals (kde or gnome terminals for example) work well. 

I looked at your privat website and was surprised at how young and normal you
look. You sound much harsher on the mailinglists... 

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[olly@lfix.co.uk: There is a website that crashes X 4.0]

2000-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson

- Forwarded message from Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: "Oliver Elphick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: There is a website that crashes X 4.0
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:06:02 +
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Authentication-Warning: linda.lfix.co.uk: Host olly@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to 
be lfix.co.uk
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 (debian 2.2-1) with nmh-1.0.4+dev
X-URL: http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
X-face: "xUFVDj+ZJtL_IbURmI}!~xAyPC"Mrk=MkAm&tPQnNq(FWxv49R}\>0oI8VM?O2VY+N7@F-
 KMLl*!h}B)u@TW|B}6http://www.field-studies.org.uk/>, which has been generated
by some horrible Microsoft thing.  I've tried both Netscape 4.72 and Opera
and got the same result.

It appears to be something to do with image display, because xemacs
complains about one of the images.  On the other hand, jpeginfo says
they are all OK and display (from imagemagick) shows all of them
without a problem.

xserver-xfree86 version: 4.0.1-4

-- System Information
Debian Release: woody
Kernel Version: Linux linda 2.2.17 #1 Wed Sep 20 15:50:16 BST 2000 i686 unknown

Versions of the packages xserver-xfree86 depends on:
ii  libc6  2.2-1  GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
ii  xserver-common 4.0.1-4files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  zlib1g 1.1.3-11   compression library - runtime


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This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.0.1e / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 6 November 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.18pre15 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Nov 19 20:02:47 2000
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Graphics Device"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) XKB: layout: "gb"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(**) FontPath set to 
"unix/:7100,unix/:7101,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(--) PCI:*(0:10:0) Matrox MGA 2064W rev 1, Mem @ 0xdd00/14, 0xde00/23
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
(II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a
(II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1e, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Load

Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Marc Martinez
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:00:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I check for a mounted devfs using a check given to me.  How about reading
> the source of dexter and telling me what's wrong with it?

a much simpler test than working out proper grep semantics is the following:

[ -c /dev/.devfsd ]

Marc



dexter in 4.0.1-7

2000-11-21 Thread Alex Romosan
what happened to dexter? it doesn't want to generate the XF86Config-4
file anymore (it goes for the v3 version, even though i don't have any
v3 servers installed).

actually i just figured this out. if the Xserver file still exists
(and it doesn't get purged when you remove the v3 servers) and the
first line in Xserver still lists the old v3 Xserver then dexter goes
in v3 compatibility mode. once i changed the first line to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 dexter started configuring the v4 server.

i don't think dexter should be looking at the Xserver file to decide
what mode (v3 vs. v4) to use for the config file.

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Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Marc Martinez

On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:00:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I check for a mounted devfs using a check given to me.  How about reading
> the source of dexter and telling me what's wrong with it?

a much simpler test than working out proper grep semantics is the following:

[ -c /dev/.devfsd ]

Marc


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dexter in 4.0.1-7

2000-11-21 Thread Alex Romosan

what happened to dexter? it doesn't want to generate the XF86Config-4
file anymore (it goes for the v3 version, even though i don't have any
v3 servers installed).

actually i just figured this out. if the Xserver file still exists
(and it doesn't get purged when you remove the v3 servers) and the
first line in Xserver still lists the old v3 Xserver then dexter goes
in v3 compatibility mode. once i changed the first line to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 dexter started configuring the v4 server.

i don't think dexter should be looking at the Xserver file to decide
what mode (v3 vs. v4) to use for the config file.

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Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:14:30AM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  > I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
>  > about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
>  > standard.
> 
>  *blink* ... *blink* ... *BLINK*
> 
>  Make what standard? glide?

Both glide2 and glide3, yes, this is not the best idea, but there are
few good ones at the moment.
> 
>  > For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2
>  
>  Does this mean that it would be, uhm, bad if the mesa packages suddenly
>  drop support for glide?  (if yes... damn!)

Very bad.

Zephaniah E. Hull.
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Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 > I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
 > about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
 > standard.

 *blink* ... *blink* ... *BLINK*

 Make what standard? glide?

 > For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2
 
 Does this mean that it would be, uhm, bad if the mesa packages suddenly
 drop support for glide?  (if yes... damn!)

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X4.0: patches for m68k

2000-11-21 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi Branden,
can you please add these patches for your next version. It seems they are
all that is needed to get X4.0 built on m68k. If my machine hadn't crashed
three times in a row during the install target, I might have tested them
already. Anyhow, the patches shouldn't do any harm to non-m68k build.

Christian--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnxResource.c.orig  Wed Jun 
14 21:41:25 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnxResource.c   Fri Jul 
28 19:33:59 2000
@@ -150,7 +150,7 @@
 return ret;
 }
 
-#elif defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__sparc__) || defined(__mips__)
+#elif defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__sparc__) || defined(__mips__) || 
defined(__mc68000__)
 
  /* XXX this isn't exactly correct but it will get the server working 
   * for now until we get something better.
--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/Imakefile.origSat Jul  1 
01:39:11 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/Imakefile Thu Aug 10 22:31:09 2000
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
 
 #if defined(i386Architecture) || defined(ia64Architecture) || \
(defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(AlphaArchitecture)) || \
+   (defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(Mc68020Architecture)) || \
(defined(FreeBSDArchitecture) && defined(AlphaArchitecture)) || \
defined(PpcArchitecture) || defined(SparcArchitecture) || \
(defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(MipsArchitecture))
--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Pci.h.origTue Nov 14 
23:30:56 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Pci.h Thu Nov 16 19:54:18 2000
@@ -136,7 +136,7 @@
 /*
  * Select architecture specific PCI init function
  */
-#if (defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__mips__)) && defined(linux)
+#if (defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__mips__) || defined(__mc68000__)) && 
defined(linux)
 # define ARCH_PCI_INIT linuxPciInit
 # define INCLUDE_XF86_MAP_PCI_MEM
 #elif defined(__powerpc__)
--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Imakefile.origWed Jun 
14 21:41:23 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Imakefile Sun Nov 19 
22:07:02 2000
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
 SBUSDRVSRC = linuxSbus.c
 SBUSDRVOBJ = linuxSbus.o
 
-#elif defined(LinuxArchitecture) && (defined(PpcArchitecture) || 
defined(MipsArchitecture))
+#elif defined(LinuxArchitecture) && (defined(PpcArchitecture) || 
defined(MipsArchitecture) || defined(Mc68020Architecture))
 
 XCOMM generic linux PCI driver (using /proc/bus/pci, requires kernel 2.2)
 
--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/Imakefile.orig   Sun Nov 19 22:22:02 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/ImakefileMon Nov 20 18:10:02 2000
@@ -69,7 +69,8 @@
 
 #if !defined(OsfArchitecture) && !defined(AmoebaArchitecture) && \
 !defined(ArcArchitecture) && !defined(Arm32Architecture) && \
-!defined(PpcArchitecture) && !defined(MipsArchitecture)
+!defined(PpcArchitecture) && !defined(MipsArchitecture) && \
+!defined(Mc68020Architecture)
 SUPERPROBE = SuperProbe
 #endif
 


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Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull

On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:14:30AM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  > I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
>  > about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
>  > standard.
> 
>  *blink* ... *blink* ... *BLINK*
> 
>  Make what standard? glide?

Both glide2 and glide3, yes, this is not the best idea, but there are
few good ones at the moment.
> 
>  > For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2
>  
>  Does this mean that it would be, uhm, bad if the mesa packages suddenly
>  drop support for glide?  (if yes... damn!)

Very bad.

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Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon

>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 > I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
 > about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
 > standard.

 *blink* ... *blink* ... *BLINK*

 Make what standard? glide?

 > For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2
 
 Does this mean that it would be, uhm, bad if the mesa packages suddenly
 drop support for glide?  (if yes... damn!)

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X4.0: patches for m68k

2000-11-21 Thread Christian T. Steigies

Hi Branden,
can you please add these patches for your next version. It seems they are
all that is needed to get X4.0 built on m68k. If my machine hadn't crashed
three times in a row during the install target, I might have tested them
already. Anyhow, the patches shouldn't do any harm to non-m68k build.

Christian

--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnxResource.c.orig  Wed Jun 14 
21:41:25 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnxResource.c   Fri Jul 28 
+19:33:59 2000
@@ -150,7 +150,7 @@
 return ret;
 }
 
-#elif defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__sparc__) || defined(__mips__)
+#elif defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__sparc__) || defined(__mips__) || 
+defined(__mc68000__)
 
  /* XXX this isn't exactly correct but it will get the server working 
   * for now until we get something better.


--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/Imakefile.origSat Jul  1 01:39:11 
2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/Imakefile Thu Aug 10 22:31:09 2000
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
 
 #if defined(i386Architecture) || defined(ia64Architecture) || \
(defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(AlphaArchitecture)) || \
+   (defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(Mc68020Architecture)) || \
(defined(FreeBSDArchitecture) && defined(AlphaArchitecture)) || \
defined(PpcArchitecture) || defined(SparcArchitecture) || \
(defined(LinuxArchitecture) && defined(MipsArchitecture))


--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Pci.h.origTue Nov 14 23:30:56 
2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Pci.h Thu Nov 16 19:54:18 2000
@@ -136,7 +136,7 @@
 /*
  * Select architecture specific PCI init function
  */
-#if (defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__mips__)) && defined(linux)
+#if (defined(__powerpc__) || defined(__mips__) || defined(__mc68000__)) && 
+defined(linux)
 # define ARCH_PCI_INIT linuxPciInit
 # define INCLUDE_XF86_MAP_PCI_MEM
 #elif defined(__powerpc__)


--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Imakefile.origWed Jun 14 
21:41:23 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/Imakefile Sun Nov 19 22:07:02 
+2000
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
 SBUSDRVSRC = linuxSbus.c
 SBUSDRVOBJ = linuxSbus.o
 
-#elif defined(LinuxArchitecture) && (defined(PpcArchitecture) || 
defined(MipsArchitecture))
+#elif defined(LinuxArchitecture) && (defined(PpcArchitecture) || 
+defined(MipsArchitecture) || defined(Mc68020Architecture))
 
 XCOMM generic linux PCI driver (using /proc/bus/pci, requires kernel 2.2)
 


--- xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/Imakefile.orig   Sun Nov 19 22:22:02 2000
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/ImakefileMon Nov 20 18:10:02 2000
@@ -69,7 +69,8 @@
 
 #if !defined(OsfArchitecture) && !defined(AmoebaArchitecture) && \
 !defined(ArcArchitecture) && !defined(Arm32Architecture) && \
-!defined(PpcArchitecture) && !defined(MipsArchitecture)
+!defined(PpcArchitecture) && !defined(MipsArchitecture) && \
+!defined(Mc68020Architecture)
 SUPERPROBE = SuperProbe
 #endif
 

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Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 06:33:17PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:

> The check looks right but doesn't work:
> 
> # grep '\.*devfs' /proc/mounts
> 
> # grep '/dev\>.*devfs' /proc/mounts
> 
> # grep '\ 
> # grep '/dev.*devfs' /proc/mounts  
> none /dev devfs rw 0 0
> 
> # grep ' /dev .*devfs' /proc/mounts
> none /dev devfs rw 0 0
> 
> # grep '/dev.*devfs' /proc/mounts | hexdump
> %07.7_ 6f6e 656e 2f20 6564 2076 6564 6676 2073
> %07.7_ 7772 3020 3020 000a
> %07.7_
> 
> You might want to check for " " instead of word start and end to
> circumvent the problem.

Actually, / is not a word char, also, / tends to be special.

grep '\/dev[\t ]*devfs' /proc/mounts

Zephaniah E. Hull.
> 
> MfG
> Goswin
> 
> PS: You might also check for existing devices when using devfs. I
> don't have a /dev/tts/3, so theres no point giving me the
> choise. Altough care must be taken to handle not yet loaded modules. I
> might fill this as wishlist, since has nothing to do with this bug.

Don't try to open, just test for existence.

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Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Goswin Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes:

> On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:45:47PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:36:53AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> > > > PS/2 is in /dev/misc/psaux.
> > > > Serials are in /dev/tts/[0-9]*.
> > > 
> > > Ah, you mean the exact paths I've been using since 4.0.1-2.
> > 
> > Oh, so that should be fixed. Doesn't look right to me:
> > 
> > % dpkg -l | grep xfree
> > ii  xfree86-common 4.0.1-2X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
> > ii  xserver-xfree8 4.0.1-2the XFree86 X server
> > 
> > % cat /proc/filesystems 
> > ...
> > nodev   devfs
> > 
> > % mount
> > ...
> > none on /dev type devfs (rw)
> > ...
> 
> I check for a mounted devfs using a check given to me.  How about reading
> the source of dexter and telling me what's wrong with it?

The check looks right but doesn't work:

# grep '\.*devfs' /proc/mounts

# grep '/dev\>.*devfs' /proc/mounts

# grep '\

Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull

On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 06:33:17PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:

> The check looks right but doesn't work:
> 
> # grep '\.*devfs' /proc/mounts
> 
> # grep '/dev\>.*devfs' /proc/mounts
> 
> # grep '\ 
> # grep '/dev.*devfs' /proc/mounts  
> none /dev devfs rw 0 0
> 
> # grep ' /dev .*devfs' /proc/mounts
> none /dev devfs rw 0 0
> 
> # grep '/dev.*devfs' /proc/mounts | hexdump
> %07.7_ 6f6e 656e 2f20 6564 2076 6564 6676 2073
> %07.7_ 7772 3020 3020 000a
> %07.7_
> 
> You might want to check for " " instead of word start and end to
> circumvent the problem.

Actually, / is not a word char, also, / tends to be special.

grep '\/dev[\t ]*devfs' /proc/mounts

Zephaniah E. Hull.
> 
> MfG
> Goswin
> 
> PS: You might also check for existing devices when using devfs. I
> don't have a /dev/tts/3, so theres no point giving me the
> choise. Altough care must be taken to handle not yet loaded modules. I
> might fill this as wishlist, since has nothing to do with this bug.

Don't try to open, just test for existence.

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Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold
* SPENER Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 07:08]:
> dpkg --unpack xserver-xfree86_4.0.1-6_i386.deb && lynx -source 
> http://togo.dhs.org/debian/xserver-xfree86.postinst.diff | patch -p0 -d 
> /var/lib/dpkg/info && dpkg --configure --pending

Any reason why you reversed the order of the ln -sf? (And, does anyone
know why the ln --help output gets *longer* every time I run it, and
does anyone wonder why its synopsis is less than helpful? I want it to
say ln [options] LINK_FILENAME FILENAME_THAT_IS_BEING_POINTED_TO. :)

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Another xserver-xfree86.postinst failure

2000-11-21 Thread Tuomas Jormola
Hi,

I got this error at the bottom of the attachment today when upgrading from
-5 to -6. I'm using today's woody, perl-5.6 (that readlink-thingie seems
to use perl) and I don't have /etc/X11/X. Besides, I think that symlink
has never been there on my system during those three years I've been using
Debian. Or maybe it has been there, but anyway, that symlink didn't exist
when I upgraded to -6.

Tuomas Jormola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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http://shakti.tky.hut.fi/
Jämeräntaival 3c 365, 02150 Espoo, Finland
(17:35:03)([EMAIL PROTECTED])(~)# dpkg --configure -a
Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.0.1-6) ...

this_package=xserver-xfree86
+ this_package=xserver-xfree86
this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
+ this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

# source debconf library
. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell library to interface to the Debian configration management
# system.

###
# Initialization.

# Check to see if a FrontEnd is running.
if [ ! "$DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND" ]; then
# Ok, this is pretty crazy. Since there is no FrontEnd, this
# program execs a FrontEnd. It will then run a new copy of $0 that
# can talk to it.
exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend $0 "$@"
fi
++ '[' '!' '' ']'
++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xfree86.postinst 
configure 4.0.1-5

this_package=xserver-xfree86
+ this_package=xserver-xfree86
this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
+ this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

# source debconf library
. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell library to interface to the Debian configration management
# system.

###
# Initialization.

# Check to see if a FrontEnd is running.
if [ ! "$DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND" ]; then
# Ok, this is pretty crazy. Since there is no FrontEnd, this
# program execs a FrontEnd. It will then run a new copy of $0 that
# can talk to it.
exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend $0 "$@"
fi
++ '[' '!' 1 ']'

# Only do this once.
if [ -z "$DEBCONF_REDIR" ]; then
# Redirect standard output to standard error. This prevents common
# mistakes by making all the output of the postinst or whatever
# script is using this library not be parsed as confmodule commands.
#
# To actually send something to standard output, send it to fd 3.
exec 3>&1 1>&2
DEBCONF_REDIR=1
export DEBCONF_REDIR
fi
++ '[' -z '' ']'
++ exec
++ DEBCONF_REDIR=1
++ export DEBCONF_REDIR

###
# Commands.

# Generate subroutines for all commands that don't have special handlers.
# Each command must be listed twice, once in lower case, once in upper.
# Doing that saves us a lot of calls to tr at load time. I just wish shell had
# an upper-case function.
old_opts="$@"
++ old_opts=configure 4.0.1-5
for i in "capb CAPB" "set SET" "reset RESET" "title TITLE" \
 "input INPUT" "beginblock BEGINBLOCK" "endblock ENDBLOCK" "go GO" \
 "get GET" "register REGISTER" "unregister UNREGISTER" "subst SUBST" \
 "previous_module PREVIOUS_MODULE" "fset FSET" "fget FGET" \
 "purge PURGE" "metaget METAGET" "version VERSION" "clear CLEAR"; do
# Break string up into words.
set -- $i
# Generate function on the fly.
eval "db_$1 () {
local _RET
echo \"$2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]" >&3
read _RET
set -- \$_RET
_RET=\$1
shift
RET="\$@"
return \$_RET
  }"
done
++ set -- capb CAPB
++ eval 'db_capb () {
local _RET
echo "CAPB $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }'
db_capb () {
local _RET
echo "CAPB $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }
++ set -- set SET
++ eval 'db_set () {
local _RET
echo "SET $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }'
db_set () {
local _RET
echo "SET $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }
++ set -- reset RESET
++ eval 'db_reset () {
local _RET
echo "RESET $@" >&3
read _RET
  

Re: Bug#77130: dexter is not devfs ready

2000-11-21 Thread Goswin Brederlow

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes:

> On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:45:47PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:36:53AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> > > > PS/2 is in /dev/misc/psaux.
> > > > Serials are in /dev/tts/[0-9]*.
> > > 
> > > Ah, you mean the exact paths I've been using since 4.0.1-2.
> > 
> > Oh, so that should be fixed. Doesn't look right to me:
> > 
> > % dpkg -l | grep xfree
> > ii  xfree86-common 4.0.1-2X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
> > ii  xserver-xfree8 4.0.1-2the XFree86 X server
> > 
> > % cat /proc/filesystems 
> > ...
> > nodev   devfs
> > 
> > % mount
> > ...
> > none on /dev type devfs (rw)
> > ...
> 
> I check for a mounted devfs using a check given to me.  How about reading
> the source of dexter and telling me what's wrong with it?

The check looks right but doesn't work:

# grep '\.*devfs' /proc/mounts

# grep '/dev\>.*devfs' /proc/mounts

# grep '\


Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread SPENER Christian
try:

dpkg --unpack xserver-xfree86_4.0.1-6_i386.deb && lynx -source 
http://togo.dhs.org/debian/xserver-xfree86.postinst.diff | patch -p0 -d 
/var/lib/dpkg/info && dpkg --configure --pending

works for me

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Re: uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread djw
Christian, I get that quite often. I just open up the control center
(gnomecc from an xterm) and specify sawfish. I sometimes make a new
listing for sawfish (sometimes that builtin option doesn't work). 

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xmms is crashing my XFree4.0.1...

2000-11-21 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Hello,

For some reason, my machine hangs solidly when I run xmms - I have a
TNT2-M64, and am using XFree4.0.1 from woody. (Not nvidia drivers, they 
do not work at this point.)

What can it be that xmms does that hangs my system? Any tips as to what
else to test will be greatly appreciated.

Note: when running X straight "out-of-the-box" after running dexter, it
refuses to load, with a bunch of unresolved symbols, with references to
libGLcore and libdri (I think - if more exact info is needed, I'll
supply it). Is this a known problem? I got past this by commenting out
the commands in the "Module" section that loads "GLcore", "dri" and
"glx". Could this cause a problem? How do I get past this?

I feel I should get the nv driver working properly before trying
nvidia's drivers again. (With them, my machine's screen flashes a
couple of times, then hangs, with a blank screen. I did edit the
sources as instructed by the M64_README - or whatever it was called...)

Thanks in advance for any tips,
Hugo van der Merwe



Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread djw
Seth,

I ran into this problem. As a workaround,I linked /usr/X11R/bin/X to that
one specified in the error message. Then, I edited /etc/X11/Xserver to be
"Anybody" instead of "console."  This is grossly insecure. Has anyone else
have this problem?


On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Seth Arnold wrote:

|Branden, my roommate is having trouble with the 4.0.1-6 upgrade. He
|started out with a previous 4.0.1-x release, likely -3, -4 or -5. The
|error message returned is that the postinst failed. We have received two
|different error messages -- exit status 1 and exit status 5.
|
|Running startx as a user gives this:
|var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
|var: nice_value, value: .
|X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
|giving up.
|xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
|xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  server error.
|
|His dialog and debconf are up to date. (Making the /etc/X11/X symlink
|ourselves did not make matters better. :)
|
|We have tried dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog and medium
|severity, do not ask questions multiple times. This would not allow us
|to progess any further with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free86. Trying
|dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog, low severity, ask questions
|multiple times, we get prompted with the ``hello new users, /etc/X11,
|hit '' screen when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but
|then the script dies, error status 1.
|
|At no time can we run dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 because the
|xserver-xfree86 package is not completely installed. (Yes, we were a bit
|confused.)
|
|Changing the /etc/alternatives/perl to point to perl5.00503 (from
|perl5.6.0) did not improve the situation. It got much worse in a real
|hurry.
|
|Sadly, we cannot help diagnose the problem much, as we are going on
|thanksgiving break Real Soon Now. :-/
|
|If you have any suggestions, that would be fine. My best guess is that
|deleting and reinstalling may be required, but .. bed time calls. :)
|
|Thanks Branden! :)
|
|

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Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold

* SPENER Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 07:08]:
> dpkg --unpack xserver-xfree86_4.0.1-6_i386.deb && lynx -source 
> http://togo.dhs.org/debian/xserver-xfree86.postinst.diff | patch -p0 -d 
> /var/lib/dpkg/info && dpkg --configure --pending

Any reason why you reversed the order of the ln -sf? (And, does anyone
know why the ln --help output gets *longer* every time I run it, and
does anyone wonder why its synopsis is less than helpful? I want it to
say ln [options] LINK_FILENAME FILENAME_THAT_IS_BEING_POINTED_TO. :)

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Another xserver-xfree86.postinst failure

2000-11-21 Thread Tuomas Jormola

Hi,

I got this error at the bottom of the attachment today when upgrading from
-5 to -6. I'm using today's woody, perl-5.6 (that readlink-thingie seems
to use perl) and I don't have /etc/X11/X. Besides, I think that symlink
has never been there on my system during those three years I've been using
Debian. Or maybe it has been there, but anyway, that symlink didn't exist
when I upgraded to -6.

Tuomas Jormola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+358 40 8213495
http://shakti.tky.hut.fi/
Jämeräntaival 3c 365, 02150 Espoo, Finland


(17:35:03)(root@dharma)(~)# dpkg --configure -a
Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.0.1-6) ...

this_package=xserver-xfree86
+ this_package=xserver-xfree86
this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
+ this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

# source debconf library
. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell library to interface to the Debian configration management
# system.

###
# Initialization.

# Check to see if a FrontEnd is running.
if [ ! "$DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND" ]; then
# Ok, this is pretty crazy. Since there is no FrontEnd, this
# program execs a FrontEnd. It will then run a new copy of $0 that
# can talk to it.
exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend $0 "$@"
fi
++ '[' '!' '' ']'
++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xfree86.postinst 
+configure 4.0.1-5

this_package=xserver-xfree86
+ this_package=xserver-xfree86
this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
+ this_server=/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

# source debconf library
. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell library to interface to the Debian configration management
# system.

###
# Initialization.

# Check to see if a FrontEnd is running.
if [ ! "$DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND" ]; then
# Ok, this is pretty crazy. Since there is no FrontEnd, this
# program execs a FrontEnd. It will then run a new copy of $0 that
# can talk to it.
exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend $0 "$@"
fi
++ '[' '!' 1 ']'

# Only do this once.
if [ -z "$DEBCONF_REDIR" ]; then
# Redirect standard output to standard error. This prevents common
# mistakes by making all the output of the postinst or whatever
# script is using this library not be parsed as confmodule commands.
#
# To actually send something to standard output, send it to fd 3.
exec 3>&1 1>&2
DEBCONF_REDIR=1
export DEBCONF_REDIR
fi
++ '[' -z '' ']'
++ exec
++ DEBCONF_REDIR=1
++ export DEBCONF_REDIR

###
# Commands.

# Generate subroutines for all commands that don't have special handlers.
# Each command must be listed twice, once in lower case, once in upper.
# Doing that saves us a lot of calls to tr at load time. I just wish shell had
# an upper-case function.
old_opts="$@"
++ old_opts=configure 4.0.1-5
for i in "capb CAPB" "set SET" "reset RESET" "title TITLE" \
 "input INPUT" "beginblock BEGINBLOCK" "endblock ENDBLOCK" "go GO" \
 "get GET" "register REGISTER" "unregister UNREGISTER" "subst SUBST" \
 "previous_module PREVIOUS_MODULE" "fset FSET" "fget FGET" \
 "purge PURGE" "metaget METAGET" "version VERSION" "clear CLEAR"; do
# Break string up into words.
set -- $i
# Generate function on the fly.
eval "db_$1 () {
local _RET
echo \"$2 \$@\" >&3
read _RET
set -- \$_RET
_RET=\$1
shift
RET="\$@"
return \$_RET
  }"
done
++ set -- capb CAPB
++ eval 'db_capb () {
local _RET
echo "CAPB $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }'
db_capb () {
local _RET
echo "CAPB $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }
++ set -- set SET
++ eval 'db_set () {
local _RET
echo "SET $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }'
db_set () {
local _RET
echo "SET $@" >&3
read _RET
set -- $_RET
_RET=$1
shift
RET=$@
return $_RET
  }
++ set -- reset RESET

Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:32:24AM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
> Sadly, the package system isn't mature enough (I don't think) to be able
> to say, "if version x.x.x of package P is installed, then install
> version y.y.y of package Q -- otherwise, install version z.z.z or
> package R".

Sigh, I suppose this means that someone (probably me, as I'm bringing it
up) should write a program to look to see what video card you have, and
spit out what packages should be installed, removed, and how they should
be configured.

Consider it added to the todo list, right after getting sst1 working
again. (Don't ask, just, don't ask)


> Well, I was hoping the Glide packages would be able to say "if you use 
> XFree86 v4, you don't need/shouldn't install this package".  If that
> is indeed the case.

I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
standard.

(Right now, they yell loudly if you don't have a supported 3Dfx card
installed, I need to change that so it will yell very quietly if you
don't have a 3Dfx card, and yell loudly if you have a 3Dfx card it does
not know about.)
> 
> > and compounded by Debian's ability to have practically everything
> > available installed at once.
> 
> Yes.  Shouldn't it be possible for Debian (or each of the
> stable/unstable branches, at least) to standardize on a 3D
> infrastructure?  At least Woody ought, IMHO, to go towards adoption of 
> XFree/DRI, and warn against obsolescent packages that clutter up
> things. 

But in many cases the 'obsolescent packages that clutter up things' are
they ONLY way for the user to use 3D.
> 
> > It is even more complex with 3dfx cards. (Zephaniah will attest to this
> > in a heartbeat I think. :)
> 
> I can't make mine work in Windows either, if that's a consolation.

For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2, and the dev3dfx kernel
module, for a V4/V5 you want libglide3, xlibmesa3, X4, the kernel DRM
module, and X4 using the DRI module.

For a V3, you can use either, but not both. (Note, the V2 config works
fine with X4, no worries there)


> > You will also need the 3dfx kernel module
> 
> There's source in Debian, too, for that matter.

Which even works for both 2.2 and 2.4 kernels.


Zephaniah E. Hull.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -kzm
> -- 
> If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
> 
> - End forwarded message -
> 
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Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread SPENER Christian

try:

dpkg --unpack xserver-xfree86_4.0.1-6_i386.deb && lynx -source 
http://togo.dhs.org/debian/xserver-xfree86.postinst.diff | patch -p0 -d 
/var/lib/dpkg/info && dpkg --configure --pending

works for me

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Re: uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread djw

Christian, I get that quite often. I just open up the control center
(gnomecc from an xterm) and specify sawfish. I sometimes make a new
listing for sawfish (sometimes that builtin option doesn't work). 

Cheers.

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xmms is crashing my XFree4.0.1...

2000-11-21 Thread Hugo van der Merwe

Hello,

For some reason, my machine hangs solidly when I run xmms - I have a
TNT2-M64, and am using XFree4.0.1 from woody. (Not nvidia drivers, they 
do not work at this point.)

What can it be that xmms does that hangs my system? Any tips as to what
else to test will be greatly appreciated.

Note: when running X straight "out-of-the-box" after running dexter, it
refuses to load, with a bunch of unresolved symbols, with references to
libGLcore and libdri (I think - if more exact info is needed, I'll
supply it). Is this a known problem? I got past this by commenting out
the commands in the "Module" section that loads "GLcore", "dri" and
"glx". Could this cause a problem? How do I get past this?

I feel I should get the nv driver working properly before trying
nvidia's drivers again. (With them, my machine's screen flashes a
couple of times, then hangs, with a blank screen. I did edit the
sources as instructed by the M64_README - or whatever it was called...)

Thanks in advance for any tips,
Hugo van der Merwe


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Re: xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread djw

Seth,

I ran into this problem. As a workaround,I linked /usr/X11R/bin/X to that
one specified in the error message. Then, I edited /etc/X11/Xserver to be
"Anybody" instead of "console."  This is grossly insecure. Has anyone else
have this problem?


On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Seth Arnold wrote:

|Branden, my roommate is having trouble with the 4.0.1-6 upgrade. He
|started out with a previous 4.0.1-x release, likely -3, -4 or -5. The
|error message returned is that the postinst failed. We have received two
|different error messages -- exit status 1 and exit status 5.
|
|Running startx as a user gives this:
|var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
|var: nice_value, value: .
|X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
|giving up.
|xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
|xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  server error.
|
|His dialog and debconf are up to date. (Making the /etc/X11/X symlink
|ourselves did not make matters better. :)
|
|We have tried dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog and medium
|severity, do not ask questions multiple times. This would not allow us
|to progess any further with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free86. Trying
|dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog, low severity, ask questions
|multiple times, we get prompted with the ``hello new users, /etc/X11,
|hit '' screen when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but
|then the script dies, error status 1.
|
|At no time can we run dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 because the
|xserver-xfree86 package is not completely installed. (Yes, we were a bit
|confused.)
|
|Changing the /etc/alternatives/perl to point to perl5.00503 (from
|perl5.6.0) did not improve the situation. It got much worse in a real
|hurry.
|
|Sadly, we cannot help diagnose the problem much, as we are going on
|thanksgiving break Real Soon Now. :-/
|
|If you have any suggestions, that would be fine. My best guess is that
|deleting and reinstalling may be required, but .. bed time calls. :)
|
|Thanks Branden! :)
|
|

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Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull

On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:32:24AM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
> Sadly, the package system isn't mature enough (I don't think) to be able
> to say, "if version x.x.x of package P is installed, then install
> version y.y.y of package Q -- otherwise, install version z.z.z or
> package R".

Sigh, I suppose this means that someone (probably me, as I'm bringing it
up) should write a program to look to see what video card you have, and
spit out what packages should be installed, removed, and how they should
be configured.

Consider it added to the todo list, right after getting sst1 working
again. (Don't ask, just, don't ask)


> Well, I was hoping the Glide packages would be able to say "if you use 
> XFree86 v4, you don't need/shouldn't install this package".  If that
> is indeed the case.

I need to modify the glide2 and glide3 postinsts to be a little nicer
about that, then tempt fate by asking -devel to let me make them
standard.

(Right now, they yell loudly if you don't have a supported 3Dfx card
installed, I need to change that so it will yell very quietly if you
don't have a 3Dfx card, and yell loudly if you have a 3Dfx card it does
not know about.)
> 
> > and compounded by Debian's ability to have practically everything
> > available installed at once.
> 
> Yes.  Shouldn't it be possible for Debian (or each of the
> stable/unstable branches, at least) to standardize on a 3D
> infrastructure?  At least Woody ought, IMHO, to go towards adoption of 
> XFree/DRI, and warn against obsolescent packages that clutter up
> things. 

But in many cases the 'obsolescent packages that clutter up things' are
they ONLY way for the user to use 3D.
> 
> > It is even more complex with 3dfx cards. (Zephaniah will attest to this
> > in a heartbeat I think. :)
> 
> I can't make mine work in Windows either, if that's a consolation.

For a V2 you want libglide2, mesag3-glide2, and the dev3dfx kernel
module, for a V4/V5 you want libglide3, xlibmesa3, X4, the kernel DRM
module, and X4 using the DRI module.

For a V3, you can use either, but not both. (Note, the V2 config works
fine with X4, no worries there)


> > You will also need the 3dfx kernel module
> 
> There's source in Debian, too, for that matter.

Which even works for both 2.2 and 2.4 kernels.


Zephaniah E. Hull.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -kzm
> -- 
> If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
> 
> - End forwarded message -
> 
> -- 
> ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all
> really impressed down here, I can tell you.''

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Re: uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread Timo Aaltonen
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Christian Hammers wrote:

> Hello
> 
> When starting gnome it says that I dont´ have a compatible window
> manager although I'm using sawfish-gnome.
> Upon which does it make this decision? Or is sawfish-gnome really no
> GNOME compatible window manager?

I've had similar problems (using Helix-Gnome). Try moving the .gnome and
.sawfish -directories to something like .gnome-old etc (while not running
gnome!). Then try running gnome again and see what happens. Of course
you'll lose your configs, but you may try to move them later on one by
one...

Sometimes it impossible to get shortcuts defined in sawfish (=you have to
edit them manually, in console!), but that's a _bit_ off-topic here :-)

-

SUGGESTION

It would be nice, if there was some sort of a changelog online that
one can check out before updating (now I mean the X-packages =), as the
kernel is having (like the one in ~testing/test11.log). But maybe that
would be one task too many for Branden, eh?-)

t



uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello

When starting gnome it says that I dont´ have a compatible window
manager although I'm using sawfish-gnome.
Upon which does it make this decision? Or is sawfish-gnome really no
GNOME compatible window manager?

bye,

-christian-

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problems with 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Alex Romosan
unlike my desktop, where the /etc/X11/X link didn't get created at
all, on my laptop it exists and it points to /usr/X11R6/bin/X. but if
i type 'startx -- :1' i get an endless stream of:

var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: .

what i find puzzling is if i redirect the output to a file i get this :


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unexpected signal 2

waiting for X server to shut down 


and nothing else. strange...

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xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, my roommate is having trouble with the 4.0.1-6 upgrade. He
started out with a previous 4.0.1-x release, likely -3, -4 or -5. The
error message returned is that the postinst failed. We have received two
different error messages -- exit status 1 and exit status 5.

Running startx as a user gives this:
var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: .
X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  server error.

His dialog and debconf are up to date. (Making the /etc/X11/X symlink
ourselves did not make matters better. :)

We have tried dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog and medium
severity, do not ask questions multiple times. This would not allow us
to progess any further with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free86. Trying
dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog, low severity, ask questions
multiple times, we get prompted with the ``hello new users, /etc/X11,
hit '' screen when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but
then the script dies, error status 1.

At no time can we run dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 because the
xserver-xfree86 package is not completely installed. (Yes, we were a bit
confused.)

Changing the /etc/alternatives/perl to point to perl5.00503 (from
perl5.6.0) did not improve the situation. It got much worse in a real
hurry.

Sadly, we cannot help diagnose the problem much, as we are going on
thanksgiving break Real Soon Now. :-/

If you have any suggestions, that would be fine. My best guess is that
deleting and reinstalling may be required, but .. bed time calls. :)

Thanks Branden! :)

-- 
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really impressed down here, I can tell you.''



Re: uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread Timo Aaltonen

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Christian Hammers wrote:

> Hello
> 
> When starting gnome it says that I dont´ have a compatible window
> manager although I'm using sawfish-gnome.
> Upon which does it make this decision? Or is sawfish-gnome really no
> GNOME compatible window manager?

I've had similar problems (using Helix-Gnome). Try moving the .gnome and
.sawfish -directories to something like .gnome-old etc (while not running
gnome!). Then try running gnome again and see what happens. Of course
you'll lose your configs, but you may try to move them later on one by
one...

Sometimes it impossible to get shortcuts defined in sawfish (=you have to
edit them manually, in console!), but that's a _bit_ off-topic here :-)

-

SUGGESTION

It would be nice, if there was some sort of a changelog online that
one can check out before updating (now I mean the X-packages =), as the
kernel is having (like the one in ~testing/test11.log). But maybe that
would be one task too many for Branden, eh?-)

t


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uncompatible window manager?

2000-11-21 Thread Christian Hammers

Hello

When starting gnome it says that I dont´ have a compatible window
manager although I'm using sawfish-gnome.
Upon which does it make this decision? Or is sawfish-gnome really no
GNOME compatible window manager?

bye,

-christian-

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problems with 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Alex Romosan

unlike my desktop, where the /etc/X11/X link didn't get created at
all, on my laptop it exists and it points to /usr/X11R6/bin/X. but if
i type 'startx -- :1' i get an endless stream of:

var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: .

what i find puzzling is if i redirect the output to a file i get this :


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unexpected signal 2

waiting for X server to shut down 


and nothing else. strange...

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xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold

Branden, my roommate is having trouble with the 4.0.1-6 upgrade. He
started out with a previous 4.0.1-x release, likely -3, -4 or -5. The
error message returned is that the postinst failed. We have received two
different error messages -- exit status 1 and exit status 5.

Running startx as a user gives this:
var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: .
X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  server error.

His dialog and debconf are up to date. (Making the /etc/X11/X symlink
ourselves did not make matters better. :)

We have tried dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog and medium
severity, do not ask questions multiple times. This would not allow us
to progess any further with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free86. Trying
dpkg-reconfigure debconf, selecting dialog, low severity, ask questions
multiple times, we get prompted with the ``hello new users, /etc/X11,
hit '' screen when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but
then the script dies, error status 1.

At no time can we run dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 because the
xserver-xfree86 package is not completely installed. (Yes, we were a bit
confused.)

Changing the /etc/alternatives/perl to point to perl5.00503 (from
perl5.6.0) did not improve the situation. It got much worse in a real
hurry.

Sadly, we cannot help diagnose the problem much, as we are going on
thanksgiving break Real Soon Now. :-/

If you have any suggestions, that would be fine. My best guess is that
deleting and reinstalling may be required, but .. bed time calls. :)

Thanks Branden! :)

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