stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:27:22AM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
 Oh, while I'm on the subject, I really need that patch to the rules script
 incorporated for now.  For some reason, whenever the modules in
 xserver-xfree86 are stripped on Alpha, it renders them unusable.  The
 patch should allow strip to do it's job for all packages on every arch but
 Alpha, so it's safe (this has been tested with every revision thusfar, so
 it's still needed).

Sorry, I didn't know that.  I was just trying to protect myself from the
Policy Nazis.

I think the authors of the ELF loader for XFree86 would be very interested
to know about this bug.

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[dog@dog.net.uk: xfree86 4.0.1-10]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

This is becoming a big time FAQ.

Between 4.0.1-6 and 4.0.1-9 (inclusive), the X server wrapper was broken
such that it would always use a security level of "Console", irrespective
of what was set in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config.

Also, I think at some point there was debconf confusion that caused
"rootonly" to get written to that file even if the user picked something
else.

The short answer: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common

Finally, /etc/X11/Xserver is dead, dead, dead and not used for anything
anymore.

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hi branden,

upgrading from 4.0.1-8 to 4.0.1-10 i started having a problem running X as
anything but root (user not authorised to run the X server). i've hacked
around this temporarily by making /usr/X11R6/bin/X a symlink to XFree86 and
XFree86 setuid root, but obviously this is not ideal. are users supposed to
be members of some new group?
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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1 builds revisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

Branden Robinson wrote:
 
 I only have a 15" monitor hooked up to my 7200, so I don't know. I haven't
 been able to get it cranked past 640x480, even though I added a meg of VRAM
 so I'd be able to do 800x600 at 24-bit depth.
 
 Can anyone else help him?
 
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I also have a 7200/120.
 
Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped around for a
1024x768 resolution?

Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody :(

What depths have you tried? Can you try others?


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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:27:22AM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
  Oh, while I'm on the subject, I really need that patch to the rules script
  incorporated for now.  For some reason, whenever the modules in
  xserver-xfree86 are stripped on Alpha, it renders them unusable.  The
  patch should allow strip to do it's job for all packages on every arch but
  Alpha, so it's safe (this has been tested with every revision thusfar, so
  it's still needed).
 
 Sorry, I didn't know that.  I was just trying to protect myself from the
 Policy Nazis.
 
 I think the authors of the ELF loader for XFree86 would be very interested
 to know about this bug.


I seemed to miss the patch mentioned, but my guess would be that it involves
wether or not to pass -s to install?

The modules that get loaded can't get completely stripped, or they loose the
symbol  relocation information which is required for loading. It is probably
OK to strip out some other stuff like debugging info.

I just peeked at the config file, and I don't see where -s is getting set. Is
this a patch to another patch? Has the default behavior of install changed?
Should I just wait for the coffee to kick in and then all this will make sense?



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Re: Major texturing bugs in G400 DRI driver

2000-12-07 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:21:15PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote:

 I've completely lost track of where DRI bugs should go, but this seems
 like the kind of thing which might just be due to something bad in the
 Debian build anyway.  Basically, texturing on the G400 DRI driver is
 completely borked up in that it seems that texture coordinates aren't
 getting to the card properly.  I have some screenshots comparing the G400
 driver with software Mesa at 
 
 http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/temp/texture-hw.jpg (G400 driver)
 http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/temp/texture-sw.jpg (software)
 
 Basically, vertices which are a certain distance from the camera and are
 within the clipping planes seem to get their texture coordinates shoved
 to 0,0.  As the camera moves around the broken texture coordinates change
 quite a bit.
 
 Has anyone else been having problems like these?  This seems like the
 sort of thing that the DRI project wouldn't miss noticing before making a
 release.  Or are the Debian packages still built from CVS?

I have noticed texture-coordinate problems, but I don't know if it's the
same thing.  What I have noticed is that when a polygon loses a vertex as
that vertex crosses the edge of the viewport, the polygon to which that
vertex belongs suddenly has its texture mapped incorrectly.

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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:12:48AM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
 
 On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Stuart Anderson wrote:
 
  I seemed to miss the patch mentioned, but my guess would be that it involves
  wether or not to pass -s to install?
  
  The modules that get loaded can't get completely stripped, or they loose the
  symbol  relocation information which is required for loading. It is probably
  OK to strip out some other stuff like debugging info.
  
  I just peeked at the config file, and I don't see where -s is getting set. Is
  this a patch to another patch? Has the default behavior of install changed?
  Should I just wait for the coffee to kick in and then all this will make sense?
 
 Not really...it's not -s that's the problem, it's dh_strip.  In the patch,
 I placed an ifeq in the rules file that made it so that, on Alpha,
 dh_strip is called with '-Nxserver-xfree86', but on other archs, it
 isn't.

Stuart may not be familiar with the vagaries of Debian packaging.

I build with debugging symbols enabled, but Debian Policy insists that they
be stripped out when the package is generated.

My completely uneducated guess is that something in module loader "knows"
that debugging symbols are enabled and depends on this, so that when later
this same code is run stripped, it becomes confused?

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Re: Major texturing bugs in G400 DRI driver

2000-12-07 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:54:20AM -0600, Thomas E. Vaughan wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:21:15PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote:
 
  I've completely lost track of where DRI bugs should go, but this seems
  like the kind of thing which might just be due to something bad in the
  Debian build anyway.  Basically, texturing on the G400 DRI driver is
  completely borked up in that it seems that texture coordinates aren't
  getting to the card properly.  I have some screenshots comparing the G400
  driver with software Mesa at 
  
  http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/temp/texture-hw.jpg (G400 driver)
  http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/temp/texture-sw.jpg (software)
  
  Basically, vertices which are a certain distance from the camera and are
  within the clipping planes seem to get their texture coordinates shoved
  to 0,0.  As the camera moves around the broken texture coordinates change
  quite a bit.
  
  Has anyone else been having problems like these?  This seems like the
  sort of thing that the DRI project wouldn't miss noticing before making a
  release.  Or are the Debian packages still built from CVS?
 
 I have noticed texture-coordinate problems, but I don't know if it's the
 same thing.  What I have noticed is that when a polygon loses a vertex as
 that vertex crosses the edge of the viewport, the polygon to which that
 vertex belongs suddenly has its texture mapped incorrectly.

Yeah, that's probably the same behavior, based on some of the stuff
I've been observing.  The texture used in that screenshot made it hard to
tell, but when I used a checkerboard texture I noticed that it looked more
like texture coordinates were being dropped or something, like you've
observed...  the reason all of the polygons are getting messed up in my
renderer is because everything's sent as strips, and it seems that the
entire strip gets borked.

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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

 Stuart may not be familiar with the vagaries of Debian packaging.
 
 I build with debugging symbols enabled, but Debian Policy insists that they
 be stripped out when the package is generated.
 
 My completely uneducated guess is that something in module loader "knows"
 that debugging symbols are enabled and depends on this, so that when later
 this same code is run stripped, it becomes confused?

  Just as a note...

  I don't know how other rpm based distributions did it, but in the rpms
I built, what I did was this:

%define __os_install_post %{___build_post}

in the top of the spec file, so that rpm post scripts will not insist in
strip everything.

and added this to the bottom of the %install

(set +x; strip %{buildroot}%{prefix}/bin/* || :)
(set +x; strip %{buildroot}%{prefix}/lib/lib*.so* || :)

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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:25:40PM -0500, Stuart Anderson wrote:
 Where is dh_strip invoked? I don't see it in the XFree86 config files, so
 I'll assume it is run as part of te packagin process.

Yes.  It is run as part of the debian/rules makefile, which wraps the
XFree86 make World and make install rules.

 Can it be told to removing debugging section, but leave the regular
 symbols alone, or does the policy require that all symbols be removed?

Here's the relevant quote.

Note that by default all installed binaries should be stripped, either by
using the -s flag to install, or by calling strip on the binaries after
they have been copied into debian/tmp but before the tree is made into a
package.

We know how to turn off stripping for Alpha, that's not the problem.  The
problem is why the loader is choking on stripped modules.  We don't know.

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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

 We know how to turn off stripping for Alpha, that's not the problem.  The
 problem is why the loader is choking on stripped modules.  We don't know.

This loader is different from the libc loader in that it operates on the
symbols that are used when linking an object (and are the ones that get
stripped). This differ from the .so libraries that the libc loader uses. They
have a .dynsym section which is still there even if the object gets stripped.

What is the error message when it chokes?

It is still puzzleing why it does something different on Alpha vs others.
Maybe someone could run  objdump --headers on Alpha  x86 versions of the
same modules so we can see if there are any interesting differences.


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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

"Christian T. Steigies" wrote:

 'nother problem (after hand fixing the config):
 [...]
 (II) Loader running on linux
 (II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
 (II) Module XFree86 Font Renderer: vendor="XFree86 Font Renderer"
 compiled for 4.0.1g, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
 ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
 (II) Loading font (null)
 (II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
 (II)
 Fatal server error:
 Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
 
 I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
 way to stop loading that?

Have you worked on the PCI code now? On PPC it also works without PCI, and I
think it also loads that module, not sure though (I could ask on the APUS
lists if you'd like).


Michel


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[jdfool@Club-internet.fr: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

Not NEARLY enough information.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 21:25:19 +0100
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Hi,

i tried to upgrade my standard potato box with Xfree4.01, but it seems
to break all my xlib6-dependant packages, even if  i try to install the
xlib6 pseudo-package.

Is there a FAQ or a doc to help acomplish this ? Is there an order to
smooth update ?

Many, many thanks in advance,


Best regards,

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Re: [jdfool@Club-internet.fr: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01]

2000-12-07 Thread Charl P. Botha

Emmanuel,

Please do NOT bug Branden with mails about the X packages.  Send questions
to the mailing list.  

Did you try upgrading with the XFree86 4.0.1 packages from woody?  These
will definitely pose problems on a potato system.  Try adding the following
lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then upgrade your X:

deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/
deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/all/

These are Branden's 4.0.1 packages that have been rebuilt on a potato
system.  They install with little or no problems on my potato boxen.

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 05:44:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 Not NEARLY enough information.
 
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 Hi,
 
 i tried to upgrade my standard potato box with Xfree4.01, but it seems
 to break all my xlib6-dependant packages, even if  i try to install the
 xlib6 pseudo-package.
 
 Is there a FAQ or a doc to help acomplish this ? Is there an order to
 smooth update ?
 
 Many, many thanks in advance,
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Emmanuel.
 
 
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[branden@deadbeast.net: [jdfool@Club-internet.fr: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01]]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold

Sure there is Branden;

Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato,
please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato. If things
break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for potato. If
it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be expected.

Best of luck. :)

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Not NEARLY enough information.

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Hi,

i tried to upgrade my standard potato box with Xfree4.01, but it seems
to break all my xlib6-dependant packages, even if  i try to install the
xlib6 pseudo-package.

Is there a FAQ or a doc to help acomplish this ? Is there an order to
smooth update ?

Many, many thanks in advance,


Best regards,

Emmanuel.


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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Daryl Moulder


Michel Dnzer wrote:
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> I only have a 15" monitor hooked up to my 7200, so I don't know.
I haven't
> been able to get it cranked past 640x480, even though I added a meg
of VRAM
> so I'd be able to do 800x600 at 24-bit depth.
>
> Can anyone else help him?
>
> - Forwarded message from Daryl Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-
> I also have a 7200/120.
>
> Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped
around for a
> 1024x768 resolution?
Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody
:(
What depths have you tried? Can you try others?


Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only
my default 1024x756 which was the problem.
It works ok on xf3 but not xf4 which is why I suspected there may be
a bug somewhere:(
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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

Daryl Moulder wrote:

  Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped around for a
  1024x768 resolution?
 
  Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody
  :(
 
  What depths have you tried? Can you try others?
 
 Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my
 default 1024x756 which was the problem.

Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :)


 It works ok on xf3 but not xf4 which is why I suspected there may be a bug
 somewhere:(

Yes, unfortunately... this is with the latest debs, right?


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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold

* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 15:55]:
  Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my
  default 1024x756 which was the problem.
 Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :)

Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756 really a normal
resolution on your platform? Most folks have a 1024x768 display, but
not a 1024x756.

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authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold

Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
self-documenting config files are nice :).

Thanks :)

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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPCXFree864.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Daryl Moulder


Seth Arnold wrote:
* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001207 15:55]:
> > Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it
was only my
> > default 1024x756 which was the problem.
> Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway
:)
Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756 really a normal
resolution on your platform? Most folks have a 1024x768 display, but
not a 1024x756.


Oops typo I meant 1074x768 thanks for correcting that:) I havn't
tried different colour depths yet I'll give it a go tonight and see what
happens.
I am using the latest debs, is there a problem with these deb files?
Daryl Moulder

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Re: r128 driver still borked in XF4.0.1-9pre10

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer

Michael Flaig wrote:

Is there a reason you use the GPM repeater device?
  
   GPM supports multiple input devices so the trackpad and the usb mouse
   works at the same time ...
 
  The new input layer does that for you as well in the form of
  /dev/input/mice .
 
 hey, cool! Where can I find documentation to get this to work.

A Google search reveals this for example:

http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/inputppc.html


   Does XF4 work on your Pismo now ?
 
  No, not the -8 packages. Waiting for new ones...
 
 Have you downloaded the xfree4 from deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/
 woody/powerpc/
 
 they are now -10 ...

Well, I would have if they were still there... The only file in the powerpc
directory is currently Packages.gz .

 the bug of -8 packages is fixed but now the packages hang my pismo which is
 my biggest problem at all.

I have the same problem on my Pismo. That is, actually the screen isn't black
for me but has an interesting gradient which slowly changes it's color and
brightness :) The machine is dead as can be.

The strange thing is: The same happens if I take the r128_drv.o from one of my
build trees, which work as a whole. So the problem doesn't seem to be just in
the driver.


Michel


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X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

2000-12-07 Thread Kyle Sallee

After updating XFree86 in woody from 4.0.1-9 to a 4.0.10
a previously perfectly running XFree86 decides that now 
only root is permitted to startx.  The second line of 
/etc/Xserver is Console and I have even tried Anybody 
but still no change.  When I backed out of the update 
back to the version 4.0.1-9 packages Xfree86 began 
working for non root accounts again.


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Re: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

2000-12-07 Thread dave

Hello-

Yes, I've the same problem when using startx.  Logging in through xdm
works, though.

-Dave Barnett


On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Kyle Sallee wrote:

 After updating XFree86 in woody from 4.0.1-9 to a 4.0.10
 a previously perfectly running XFree86 decides that now 
 only root is permitted to startx.  The second line of 
 /etc/Xserver is Console and I have even tried Anybody 
 but still no change.  When I backed out of the update 
 back to the version 4.0.1-9 packages Xfree86 began 
 working for non root accounts again.
 
 
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[wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

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From: Walter Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:09:53 -0800
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Hi Branden,

With yesterday's update of xserver-common_4.01-10_i386
I can no longer run X with startx, which I always do.  

It yields the error message "X: user not authorized to run the X server,
aborting."

I have narrrowed the change down to the one file /usr/X11R6/bin/X
which is packaged in xserver-common.  If I replace that one file
with the previous version (4.01-9) the error goes away.

Is this a deliberate change in authentication policy or just a bug?
If it is deliberate I need to know how to do the authentication
properly.

Thanks for sharing your time and hard work with all of us out here!

Walt
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Re: authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:13:04PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
 Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
 effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
 sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
 self-documenting config files are nice :).

No, because it would make my parser too complicated.

I will, however, write a manpage for the file when I get around to it.

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Re: [wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold

[branden, you *need* to change the maintainer address to debian-x --
this is getting nuts. :]

Walter: the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file needs to be updated. Change
`root' to read `console' or `everyone' (or `everybody'?).

* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 20:20]:
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 From: Walter Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).
 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:09:53 -0800
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: none
 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99]
 Message-Id: 00120720095300.1@k7
 
 Hi Branden,
 
 With yesterday's update of xserver-common_4.01-10_i386
 I can no longer run X with startx, which I always do.  
 
 It yields the error message "X: user not authorized to run the X server,
 aborting."
 
 I have narrrowed the change down to the one file /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 which is packaged in xserver-common.  If I replace that one file
 with the previous version (4.01-9) the error goes away.
 
 Is this a deliberate change in authentication policy or just a bug?
 If it is deliberate I need to know how to do the authentication
 properly.
 
 Thanks for sharing your time and hard work with all of us out here!
 
 Walt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis


On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Stuart Anderson wrote:

 It is still puzzleing why it does something different on Alpha vs others.
 Maybe someone could run  objdump --headers on Alpha  x86 versions of the
 same modules so we can see if there are any interesting differences.

While I've got you here, I've run into a problem with X -configure
segfaulting in the s3virge driver.  I haven't checked it lately (meaning
in the past three weeks), so it might be fixed already (I'll check again
tomorrow), but I wanted to see if you had heard of anything like this...

C


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How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-07 Thread Cajus Pollmeier

Hi!

I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:

#!/bin/bash
while true; do
  su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
done 

Starting this manually as root works as expected. While booting I get:
  X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
  var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
  var: nice_value, value: -10.

Changing from rootonly to anybody makes no difference.
Ok - that's no login shell from there, but...

Thanks in advance,
-Cajus


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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

 [Please follow-up to debian-x if you want me to see it.]
 
 4.0.1-10 is in the archive for i386, sparc, and powerpc.  John Goerzen is
 building for alpha.  Compiles for m68k and arm are still needed.

Is John building them?  I thought I was! :-)  If he is, I need to fill him
in on a few things...

 A prerelease of -11, based on the new upstream beta 4.0.1h, is available at
 the X Strike Force repository.  Alpha, ARM, and m68k folks should grab
 these sources, build, and let me know what changes need to be made to the
 debian/*.$(ARCH) files.  The changelog summarizes what changed on i386.

Oh, while I'm on the subject, I really need that patch to the rules script
incorporated for now.  For some reason, whenever the modules in
xserver-xfree86 are stripped on Alpha, it renders them unusable.  The
patch should allow strip to do it's job for all packages on every arch but
Alpha, so it's safe (this has been tested with every revision thusfar, so
it's still needed).

C



stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:27:22AM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
 Oh, while I'm on the subject, I really need that patch to the rules script
 incorporated for now.  For some reason, whenever the modules in
 xserver-xfree86 are stripped on Alpha, it renders them unusable.  The
 patch should allow strip to do it's job for all packages on every arch but
 Alpha, so it's safe (this has been tested with every revision thusfar, so
 it's still needed).

Sorry, I didn't know that.  I was just trying to protect myself from the
Policy Nazis.

I think the authors of the ELF loader for XFree86 would be very interested
to know about this bug.

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[dog@dog.net.uk: xfree86 4.0.1-10]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
This is becoming a big time FAQ.

Between 4.0.1-6 and 4.0.1-9 (inclusive), the X server wrapper was broken
such that it would always use a security level of Console, irrespective
of what was set in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config.

Also, I think at some point there was debconf confusion that caused
rootonly to get written to that file even if the user picked something
else.

The short answer: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common

Finally, /etc/X11/Xserver is dead, dead, dead and not used for anything
anymore.

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hi branden,

upgrading from 4.0.1-8 to 4.0.1-10 i started having a problem running X as
anything but root (user not authorised to run the X server). i've hacked
around this temporarily by making /usr/X11R6/bin/X a symlink to XFree86 and
XFree86 setuid root, but obviously this is not ideal. are users supposed to
be members of some new group?
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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1 builds revisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Branden Robinson wrote:
 
 I only have a 15 monitor hooked up to my 7200, so I don't know. I haven't
 been able to get it cranked past 640x480, even though I added a meg of VRAM
 so I'd be able to do 800x600 at 24-bit depth.
 
 Can anyone else help him?
 
 - Forwarded message from Daryl Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
I also have a 7200/120.
 
Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped around for a
1024x768 resolution?

Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody :(

What depths have you tried? Can you try others?


Michel


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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:27:22AM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
  Oh, while I'm on the subject, I really need that patch to the rules script
  incorporated for now.  For some reason, whenever the modules in
  xserver-xfree86 are stripped on Alpha, it renders them unusable.  The
  patch should allow strip to do it's job for all packages on every arch but
  Alpha, so it's safe (this has been tested with every revision thusfar, so
  it's still needed).
 
 Sorry, I didn't know that.  I was just trying to protect myself from the
 Policy Nazis.
 
 I think the authors of the ELF loader for XFree86 would be very interested
 to know about this bug.


I seemed to miss the patch mentioned, but my guess would be that it involves
wether or not to pass -s to install?

The modules that get loaded can't get completely stripped, or they loose the
symbol  relocation information which is required for loading. It is probably
OK to strip out some other stuff like debugging info.

I just peeked at the config file, and I don't see where -s is getting set. Is
this a patch to another patch? Has the default behavior of install changed?
Should I just wait for the coffee to kick in and then all this will make sense?



Stuart

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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:25:40PM -0500, Stuart Anderson wrote:
 Where is dh_strip invoked? I don't see it in the XFree86 config files, so
 I'll assume it is run as part of te packagin process.

Yes.  It is run as part of the debian/rules makefile, which wraps the
XFree86 make World and make install rules.

 Can it be told to removing debugging section, but leave the regular
 symbols alone, or does the policy require that all symbols be removed?

Here's the relevant quote.

Note that by default all installed binaries should be stripped, either by
using the -s flag to install, or by calling strip on the binaries after
they have been copied into debian/tmp but before the tree is made into a
package.

We know how to turn off stripping for Alpha, that's not the problem.  The
problem is why the loader is choking on stripped modules.  We don't know.

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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-07 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Good news everybody! I have some debs for m68k. The build failed, but this
time to to a local configuration problem (sbuild timeout, dh_compress took
more than 150 minutes...)
I am trying to get them installed now, so that I can test a little. Will make
them available tomorrow (no changelog, no upload...), maybe some more people
dare testing them (I have no idea yet if it will be working at all on m68k).

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:04:56AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 
 A prerelease of -11, based on the new upstream beta 4.0.1h, is available at
 the X Strike Force repository.  Alpha, ARM, and m68k folks should grab
 these sources, build, and let me know what changes need to be made to the
 debian/*.$(ARCH) files.  The changelog summarizes what changed on i386.
I will start the next build tonight, it takes 20..22h until I get the
MANIFEST. Please give my amiga a little time to catch up with the rest, its
an 060 and not an ICE..

One problem I see right now, I have no libgl1?

'nother problem (after hand fixing the config):
[...]
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module XFree86 Font Renderer: vendor=XFree86 Font Renderer
compiled for 4.0.1g, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font (null)
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) 
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
way to stop loading that?

Christian



Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 12:02]:
 I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
 way to stop loading that?

Me, I would try moving the module to some other directory, and see what
happens. :)

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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1 buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Daryl Moulder


Michel Dnzer wrote:
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> I only have a 15" monitor hooked up to my 7200, so I don't know.
I haven't
> been able to get it cranked past 640x480, even though I added a meg
of VRAM
> so I'd be able to do 800x600 at 24-bit depth.
>
> Can anyone else help him?
>
> - Forwarded message from Daryl Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-
> I also have a 7200/120.
>
> Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped
around for a
> 1024x768 resolution?
Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody
:(
What depths have you tried? Can you try others?


Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only
my default 1024x756 which was the problem.
It works ok on xf3 but not xf4 which is why I suspected there may be
a bug somewhere:(
Daryl Moulder

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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Daryl Moulder wrote:

  Did you have a problem with the screen been wrapped around for a
  1024x768 resolution?
 
  Oh no, looks like the 'fix' for those problems doesn't work for everybody
  :(
 
  What depths have you tried? Can you try others?
 
 Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my
 default 1024x756 which was the problem.

Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :)


 It works ok on xf3 but not xf4 which is why I suspected there may be a bug
 somewhere:(

Yes, unfortunately... this is with the latest debs, right?


Michel


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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 15:55]:
  Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my
  default 1024x756 which was the problem.
 Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :)

Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756 really a normal
resolution on your platform? Most folks have a 1024x768 display, but
not a 1024x756.

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authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
self-documenting config files are nice :).

Thanks :)

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Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree864.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Daryl Moulder


Seth Arnold wrote:
* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001207 15:55]:
> > Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it
was only my
> > default 1024x756 which was the problem.
> Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway
:)
Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756 really a normal
resolution on your platform? Most folks have a 1024x768 display, but
not a 1024x756.


Oops typo I meant 1074x768 thanks for correcting that:) I havn't
tried different colour depths yet I'll give it a go tonight and see what
happens.
I am using the latest debs, is there a problem with these deb files?
Daryl Moulder

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Re: r128 driver still borked in XF4.0.1-9pre10

2000-12-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Michael Flaig wrote:

Is there a reason you use the GPM repeater device?
  
   GPM supports multiple input devices so the trackpad and the usb mouse
   works at the same time ...
 
  The new input layer does that for you as well in the form of
  /dev/input/mice .
 
 hey, cool! Where can I find documentation to get this to work.

A Google search reveals this for example:

http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/inputppc.html


   Does XF4 work on your Pismo now ?
 
  No, not the -8 packages. Waiting for new ones...
 
 Have you downloaded the xfree4 from deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/
 woody/powerpc/
 
 they are now -10 ...

Well, I would have if they were still there... The only file in the powerpc
directory is currently Packages.gz .

 the bug of -8 packages is fixed but now the packages hang my pismo which is
 my biggest problem at all.

I have the same problem on my Pismo. That is, actually the screen isn't black
for me but has an interesting gradient which slowly changes it's color and
brightness :) The machine is dead as can be.

The strange thing is: The same happens if I take the r128_drv.o from one of my
build trees, which work as a whole. So the problem doesn't seem to be just in
the driver.


Michel


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X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

2000-12-07 Thread Kyle Sallee
After updating XFree86 in woody from 4.0.1-9 to a 4.0.10
a previously perfectly running XFree86 decides that now 
only root is permitted to startx.  The second line of 
/etc/Xserver is Console and I have even tried Anybody 
but still no change.  When I backed out of the update 
back to the version 4.0.1-9 packages Xfree86 began 
working for non root accounts again.



Re: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

2000-12-07 Thread dave
Hello-

Yes, I've the same problem when using startx.  Logging in through xdm
works, though.

-Dave Barnett


On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Kyle Sallee wrote:

 After updating XFree86 in woody from 4.0.1-9 to a 4.0.10
 a previously perfectly running XFree86 decides that now 
 only root is permitted to startx.  The second line of 
 /etc/Xserver is Console and I have even tried Anybody 
 but still no change.  When I backed out of the update 
 back to the version 4.0.1-9 packages Xfree86 began 
 working for non root accounts again.
 
 
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Re: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

2000-12-07 Thread Toshihide Shimayama
Hello.
try

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common

At Thu, 7 Dec 2000 22:26:29 -0500 (EST),
Kyle Sallee wrote:
 
 After updating XFree86 in woody from 4.0.1-9 to a 4.0.10
 a previously perfectly running XFree86 decides that now 
 only root is permitted to startx.
:



[wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Walter Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:09:53 -0800
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Hi Branden,

With yesterday's update of xserver-common_4.01-10_i386
I can no longer run X with startx, which I always do.  

It yields the error message X: user not authorized to run the X server,
aborting.

I have narrrowed the change down to the one file /usr/X11R6/bin/X
which is packaged in xserver-common.  If I replace that one file
with the previous version (4.01-9) the error goes away.

Is this a deliberate change in authentication policy or just a bug?
If it is deliberate I need to know how to do the authentication
properly.

Thanks for sharing your time and hard work with all of us out here!

Walt
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Re: authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:13:04PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
 Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
 effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
 sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
 self-documenting config files are nice :).

No, because it would make my parser too complicated.

I will, however, write a manpage for the file when I get around to it.

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Re: [wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
[branden, you *need* to change the maintainer address to debian-x --
this is getting nuts. :]

Walter: the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file needs to be updated. Change
`root' to read `console' or `everyone' (or `everybody'?).

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 From: Walter Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).
 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:09:53 -0800
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Organization: none
 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99]
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 Hi Branden,
 
 With yesterday's update of xserver-common_4.01-10_i386
 I can no longer run X with startx, which I always do.  
 
 It yields the error message X: user not authorized to run the X server,
 aborting.
 
 I have narrrowed the change down to the one file /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 which is packaged in xserver-common.  If I replace that one file
 with the previous version (4.01-9) the error goes away.
 
 Is this a deliberate change in authentication policy or just a bug?
 If it is deliberate I need to know how to do the authentication
 properly.
 
 Thanks for sharing your time and hard work with all of us out here!
 
 Walt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Stuart Anderson wrote:

 This loader is different from the libc loader in that it operates on the
 symbols that are used when linking an object (and are the ones that get
 stripped). This differ from the .so libraries that the libc loader uses. They
 have a .dynsym section which is still there even if the object gets stripped.

Ok, that'll help me track it down.  There is a problem with objcopy/strip
that I'm trying to track down (I'm the binutils maintainer for Debian,
incidentally), so that may be involved as well.

 What is the error message when it chokes?

I'll dig out an old log and forward it to the list.  I don't have the
message handy right now and am running too many package builds to start X
right now.

 It is still puzzleing why it does something different on Alpha vs others.
 Maybe someone could run  objdump --headers on Alpha  x86 versions of the
 same modules so we can see if there are any interesting differences.

Will do...now that I have an x86 around here, it'll be easy to compare...

C



Re: [Xpert] stripping X server modules on Alpha makes them unusable

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Stuart Anderson wrote:

 It is still puzzleing why it does something different on Alpha vs others.
 Maybe someone could run  objdump --headers on Alpha  x86 versions of the
 same modules so we can see if there are any interesting differences.

While I've got you here, I've run into a problem with X -configure
segfaulting in the s3virge driver.  I haven't checked it lately (meaning
in the past three weeks), so it might be fixed already (I'll check again
tomorrow), but I wanted to see if you had heard of anything like this...

C