Re: Re: Lithuanian debian users need XKB keymap for potato rev.3

2001-03-30 Thread Mantas

I don't unterstand you. This is working keymap. Keymap from XFree86 4.x 
NOT work with potato
XFree86 3.3.6.

 Could you please check that your keymap is consistent with the ones
 included in XFree86 4?

 Thanks,

  Juliusz




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TrueType fonts in X.

2001-03-30 Thread Yasuhiro TAKE

[ i'm not subscribed to this list, so please cc: me on every reply. thanx. ]

Hello there,

I think there're several truetype font packages for the use in X, 
though some problems are left unsolved.

#1) Policy does not permit the TrueType subdirectory under
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, but some ttfs use such an unpermitted
 directories.

#2) Backend of TTF handling and .scale problem. X4 provides two backends
 to handle truetype fonts: freetype and xtt. Both of them have specific
 syntax for a .scale file, especially xtt's .scale file accepts TTCap
 which enables dynamic decoration of truetype fonts. Mixture of these
 incompatible .scale files under /etc/X11/fonts/TrueType would cause
 a problem, and inconsistency between which backend a .scale file is for
 and which backend is acutally used, would also cause a problem.

The problem #2 tells each truetype package may have to provide two .scale
files, for freetype backend and xtt backend, and a common interface
to choose which backend is used. 

ttf-xtt- packages, which contain Japanese TrueType fonts take an appropriate
way to handle two .scale files and backend-choosing interface.
They contain .scale files for both freetype and xtt backends somewhere
under /etc, and create symlinks of either of the .scale files under
/etc/X11/fonts. They make use of Debconf for the interface to choose
the backend. 

Another solution is using Defoma framework: each truetype font package
does not touch the backend or a .scale file, or even update-fonts-scale
or mkfontdir. Instead Defoma script generates .scale file for all
registered truetype fonts, suited to the selected backend, and calls
update-fonts-scale and mkfontdir. The suprious point of this way is,
which backend .scale file is for can be switched at once. 

Now, which way to go? Or do you have another solution?
This problem must be solved before woody release, because
some current truetype font packages violates policy.

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RE: APT-able Debian DRI CVS packages ready for testing.

2001-03-30 Thread Marc Wilson

Ok, perhaps I'm really dense, but what's the advantage of using this over
just using Branden's X debs?  I have 3d acceleration and working DRI for
both my V3 and my G450 as it stands, without adding any further software.

And I can turn it on or off as I want (if I need 24 bit for something, for
example).

So, what's the scoop?

-
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 -Original Message-
From:   Zephaniah E. Hull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject:APT-able Debian DRI CVS packages ready for testing.

  File: ATT00048.dat  Yes, thats right, it is now apt-able.

Aside from not having kernel modules yet, there are no known packaging
issues.

Same warnings from the previous message apply.

The URL is http://people.debian.org/~warp/dri/.

For APT throw the following two lines into your /etc/apt/sources.list.

deb http://people.debian.org/~warp/dri/ ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~warp/dri/ ./

Please send me reports on if it works, possible issues, etc.

Zephaniah E. Hull.

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Re: TrueType fonts in X.

2001-03-30 Thread Anthony Fok

Hello Take-san,

I just noticed yesterday that both defoma and gs-5.50 (with defoma
support) are in the Debian unstable archive now.  I was pleasantly
surprised!  :-)

Yes, it is a goal that the font packages migrate to use defoma, at least
for the Chinese fonts that the Debian Chinese Project is doing.
Having said that, I probably won't have time to look into it until mid or
late April because of all the projects at school that are due very soon
now.  (And I am really behind... Yikes!)

Anyhow, I am interested in what Branden thinks too and it would be great
if you, Branden and other developers could work out the migration strategy
or even put everything into the Debian Policy eventually.  :-)

Thanks a lot for your great work!  The defoma framework opens up great
opportunity for better font management and user-installable fonts etc.
etc.  :-)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: APT-able Debian DRI CVS packages ready for testing.

2001-03-30 Thread Joseph Carter

On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
 Ok, perhaps I'm really dense, but what's the advantage of using this over
 just using Branden's X debs?  I have 3d acceleration and working DRI for
 both my V3 and my G450 as it stands, without adding any further software.
 
 And I can turn it on or off as I want (if I need 24 bit for something, for
 example).

You generally will use CVS if you like to live  on the bleeding edge, if
your card is not supported without it (mine's not), or if you need some of
the fixes and features that have happened since then.  In other words,
same reasons you'd run a 2.4 kernel right now.

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XFree86 4.0.2-13 in auric's incoming

2001-03-30 Thread Branden Robinson
i386 is uploaded.  powerpc and sparc are compiling right now.

alpha, arm, and m68k, please compile this for your architectures.

Changes:
 xfree86 (4.0.2-13) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
* build using gcc 2.95.3-9 (see #92008)
* debian/local/dexconf: don't freak out if the selected mode list is blank
* debian/xlibs.{links,preinst,postinst,prerm}: the aggressive transition
  attempted in xlibs 4.0.2-12 didn't work as planned, due to the existence
  of packages which used the old app-defaults location but are no longer
  part of Debian for whatever reason, and therefore have no fixed version
  to upgrade to; removed all transition code from the preinst; stopped
  shipping /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults altogether, move the file
  migration code to the postinst script, and handle the compatibility
  symlink in the postinst and prerm scripts just as we do the well-known
  /usr/doc/package - /usr/share/doc/package compatibility symlink
  (Closes: #92074)

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TrueType fonts in X.

2001-03-30 Thread Yasuhiro TAKE
[ i'm not subscribed to this list, so please cc: me on every reply. thanx. ]

Hello there,

I think there're several truetype font packages for the use in X, 
though some problems are left unsolved.

#1) Policy does not permit the TrueType subdirectory under
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, but some ttfs use such an unpermitted
 directories.

#2) Backend of TTF handling and .scale problem. X4 provides two backends
 to handle truetype fonts: freetype and xtt. Both of them have specific
 syntax for a .scale file, especially xtt's .scale file accepts TTCap
 which enables dynamic decoration of truetype fonts. Mixture of these
 incompatible .scale files under /etc/X11/fonts/TrueType would cause
 a problem, and inconsistency between which backend a .scale file is for
 and which backend is acutally used, would also cause a problem.

The problem #2 tells each truetype package may have to provide two .scale
files, for freetype backend and xtt backend, and a common interface
to choose which backend is used. 

ttf-xtt- packages, which contain Japanese TrueType fonts take an appropriate
way to handle two .scale files and backend-choosing interface.
They contain .scale files for both freetype and xtt backends somewhere
under /etc, and create symlinks of either of the .scale files under
/etc/X11/fonts. They make use of Debconf for the interface to choose
the backend. 

Another solution is using Defoma framework: each truetype font package
does not touch the backend or a .scale file, or even update-fonts-scale
or mkfontdir. Instead Defoma script generates .scale file for all
registered truetype fonts, suited to the selected backend, and calls
update-fonts-scale and mkfontdir. The suprious point of this way is,
which backend .scale file is for can be switched at once. 

Now, which way to go? Or do you have another solution?
This problem must be solved before woody release, because
some current truetype font packages violates policy.

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Re: APT-able Debian DRI CVS packages ready for testing.

2001-03-30 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:

 Ok, perhaps I'm really dense, but what's the advantage of using this over
 just using Branden's X debs?  I have 3d acceleration and working DRI for
 both my V3 and my G450 as it stands, without adding any further software.
 
 And I can turn it on or off as I want (if I need 24 bit for something,
 for example).
 
 So, what's the scoop?

Well, I develop a large OpenGL visualization application for weather radar
volume data, and my G400 card would freak out and paint garbage all over
the screen whenever I loaded up some big textures.  So I was waiting for
someone to get the latest DRI stuff aptable, and I am grateful.  My recent
workaround has been to use the utah-glx stuff, but then I didn't get
antialiased fonts in KDE.

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Re: TrueType fonts in X.

2001-03-30 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello Take-san,

I just noticed yesterday that both defoma and gs-5.50 (with defoma
support) are in the Debian unstable archive now.  I was pleasantly
surprised!  :-)

Yes, it is a goal that the font packages migrate to use defoma, at least
for the Chinese fonts that the Debian Chinese Project is doing.
Having said that, I probably won't have time to look into it until mid or
late April because of all the projects at school that are due very soon
now.  (And I am really behind... Yikes!)

Anyhow, I am interested in what Branden thinks too and it would be great
if you, Branden and other developers could work out the migration strategy
or even put everything into the Debian Policy eventually.  :-)

Thanks a lot for your great work!  The defoma framework opens up great
opportunity for better font management and user-installable fonts etc.
etc.  :-)

Cheers,

Anthony

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[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada
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Re: APT-able Debian DRI CVS packages ready for testing.

2001-03-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
 Ok, perhaps I'm really dense, but what's the advantage of using this over
 just using Branden's X debs?  I have 3d acceleration and working DRI for
 both my V3 and my G450 as it stands, without adding any further software.
 
 And I can turn it on or off as I want (if I need 24 bit for something, for
 example).

You generally will use CVS if you like to live  on the bleeding edge, if
your card is not supported without it (mine's not), or if you need some of
the fixes and features that have happened since then.  In other words,
same reasons you'd run a 2.4 kernel right now.

-- 
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Joey knight: sure, that's why we work on Debian.
JHM Knghtbrd: get in touch with your inner nutcase.



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