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Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:09, Derek J Witt wrote: > The 7000 QD AGP card is supported just fine in 4.1.0 as long as one is > using the latest DRI modules as included in 2.4.17 and are using `Option > "CrtScreen"' in XF86Config-4. > > For some reason, if one does not specify the type of monitor being used, > the monitor gets sent into standby and the computer locks up. The radeon driver uses the flat panel output per default on chips that have one. Option "CrtScreen" is there to change that. Okay, enough OT talk. :) If you want to know more, post to a more appropriate forum, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
Re: Screen noise on disk IO
Hi, The document in your link is about the VT8605 NorthBridge. It seems that my motherboard has a VT8604 NorthBridge, allthough I'm not sure it makes any difference. BTW, congratulations, I don't know how you managed to find that document on their site. I've been following links for hours trying to locate some information without much success. Anyway, on the following page under the 'ProSavage Display Driver ver 1.1' section it seems they go only until 1024x768: http://www.via.com.tw/en/Solutions/wince.jsp regards, Balazs On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:32:10PM -0500, Cormac McGuinness wrote: >Hi > >I'm also seeing the screen noise that you describe. I too have >an integrated S3 Savage chipset and am running Xfree 4.1.0-11 >(I also downloaded the appropriate S3 driver from >http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html - savage_drv.o v1.1.20t >as the one supplied with Debian X 4.1 crashed and locked my machine >every time I started X-windows. related to bugs 128125, 111611 and 110974) > >Returning to the screen noise specifically my chipset is : > >(from lspci -v) >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) (prog-if >00 [VGA]) >Subsystem: Holco Enterprise Co, Ltd/Shuttle Computer: Unknown device > 0686 >Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 10 >Memory at dd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) >Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) >Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 >Capabilities: [80] AGP version 2.0 > >But the information I can find on the chipset >http://www.via.com.tw/pdf/productinfo/dspm605brief.pdf >indicates that the chip should have no problem with the resolution > >I am using 16384kB of system memory and the /var/log/Xfree86.0.log >indicates 17 modes found for resolutions up to 1600x1200 > >I can hardly believe you got a screen resolution to display if the chip >didnt support it perhaps there is another answer ? > >Yours >Cormac > > >On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:01:17PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:21:35PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: >> >> The problem was solved in the meantime. >> It turned out that the graphics chip on my motherboard >> didn't support the 1280x1024 resolution, but the documentation >> didn't mention the supported resolutions and it simply didn't >> even occured to me that it might not. I guess I got spoiled >> by the GeForce's in my other boxes... >> >> Balazs >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >After getting my embeded S3 Savage chipset to run XFree86 4.1.0 >> >by downloading the appropriate driver from S3 (see my previos >> >mail a little below) I have now a new problem: >> > >> >During disk operations white noise (like dropout lines, but not through >> >the full screen width) appears to the right of onscreen objects like >> >windows. >> >It's difficult to explain, but it looks like those windows are bleeding >> >to the right for about 5 cm, and the noise is varying. >> >That it occures on disk IO is just a guess, as I can't hear the hard drives, >> >but it usually happens while waiting for something, like Gnome to load. >> > >> >Has anybody some idea, what might cause this, and how to get rid of it? >> > >> >Many thanks for your help in advance! >> >best regards, >> >Balazs >> > >> > >> >-- >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
Re: Radeon 7500 (was: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0)
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 14:20, Dave Baker wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > > > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. > > > > True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > > Is that with the 'pretend it's a VE' hack? Yep. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 15:05, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > > all. > > > > 3D is supported on the 7500. > > So there is full 3D acceleration for the 7500, at least as complete as the > windows drivers + opengl offer? Not quite, in particular hardware T&L isn't supported yet. But basically, the driver is working well from what I gather. > Do you know if ATI will assist to such an extent that future OpenGL > offerings by them will be supported w.r.t. 3d acceleration? That seems to be their intention. They provide docs to interested developers and they even contribute code to XFree86 themselves. And with http://tungstengraphics.com/, things are looking even better. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
[홍보] 네티즌이 만든 검색엔진 아이따따따입니다.
Title: 검색엔진 아이따따따 인터넷에는 많은 정보와 그 정보를 찾아주는 검색엔진이 있습니다. 하지만 검색엔진들이 너무나 많은 정보를 제공해 주는 결과 오히려 정보를 찾는데 많은 노력과 시간을 허비하는 결과를 초래하고 있습니다. 이제는 얻을 수 없는 많은 양의 검색결과보다는 신뢰성 있는 정보를 요구하는 시대가 되었습니다. 인터넷에 산재해 있는 사이트 중에는 우리가 꼭 필요한 정보들을 담고 있는 사이트가 많이 있는데, 이 사이트 들을 구분하면 포탈,보탈,허브 사이트라고 합니다. 아이따따따는 이런 사이트를 찾아주는 카테고리 및 키워드 검색엔진입니다. 각 카테고리 별로 신뢰성 있는 엄선된 사이트만 네티즌의 양심으로 등록관리하는 검색엔진이며 귀하께서도 카테고리 담당자가 되실 수 있습니다. 카테고리 담당이 되시면 ㈜아이엔웹의 주식 1주를 무상으로 드리며 pop3 e-mail 계정을 드립니다. ("예" [EMAIL PROTECTED]") 또한,그 카테고리를 관리할 수 있는 권한과 해당 카테고리에 담당자 아이디를 등록합니다. (등록신청을 하신후 담당관리자로 login 하시면 카테고리를 직접 관리하실 수 있습니다.) 회원가입을 하시고 회원이 되시면 ㈜ 아이엔웹의 주식 1주를 무상으로 드립니다. 인터넷은 네티즌이 주인이고 아이따따따는 네티즌의 것이기 때문입니다! http://iwww.net (아이따따따)로 방문해 주세요 아이따따따의 이념은 우리 네티즌이 갖고있는 유익한 정보를 서로 공유하고 새로운 네티즌문화를 창출하는것입니다. 귀하께서도 아이따따따의 한 가족이 되어주시길 부탁드립니다. 늘 건강하시고 행복하세요~~~감사합니다. 1일 평균 방문 774,500 hit(2002.01.13) 가입회원 156,550 (2002.01.13) 네티즌 담당 카테고리 785 개 직접 방문하셔서 평가해 주십시오! ==>http://iwww.net 유익한 사이트라고 평가되시면 주위분들에게 알려주시길바랍니다. ( 아이따따따 = iwww ) 귀하께 불편을 끼쳐 드렸다면 용서를 바랍니다. 귀하의 메일은 인터넷에서 웹서핑중 취득하였으며 귀하의 어떠한 정보도 갖고있지 않습니다. 다음부터는 인터넷,정보통신,바이러스백신 등 유익한 정보만을 보내드립니다. 아이따따따의 가족이 되시면 전체가족 메일을 통하여 유익한 정보를 받아보실 수 있습니다. 공지사항을 참고하시면 아이따따따 내부사정을 아실 수 있습니다. 바로가서 보기 네티즌의 고견을 수렴하는 공개게시판을 운영중입니다. 바로가서 보기 그래도 수신을 원치 않으실 경우 수신거부를 클릭하십시오! 수신거부
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:09, Derek J Witt wrote: > The 7000 QD AGP card is supported just fine in 4.1.0 as long as one is > using the latest DRI modules as included in 2.4.17 and are using `Option > "CrtScreen"' in XF86Config-4. > > For some reason, if one does not specify the type of monitor being used, > the monitor gets sent into standby and the computer locks up. The radeon driver uses the flat panel output per default on chips that have one. Option "CrtScreen" is there to change that. Okay, enough OT talk. :) If you want to know more, post to a more appropriate forum, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
The 7000 QD AGP card is supported just fine in 4.1.0 as long as one is using the latest DRI modules as included in 2.4.17 and are using `Option "CrtScreen"' in XF86Config-4. For some reason, if one does not specify the type of monitor being used, the monitor gets sent into standby and the computer locks up. Otherwise, XF is purring like a kitten with full 3D acceleration. glxgears reports between 500 to 900 fps. ** Derek J Witt ** * Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ * *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown **
Re: Screen noise on disk IO
Hi, The document in your link is about the VT8605 NorthBridge. It seems that my motherboard has a VT8604 NorthBridge, allthough I'm not sure it makes any difference. BTW, congratulations, I don't know how you managed to find that document on their site. I've been following links for hours trying to locate some information without much success. Anyway, on the following page under the 'ProSavage Display Driver ver 1.1' section it seems they go only until 1024x768: http://www.via.com.tw/en/Solutions/wince.jsp regards, Balazs On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:32:10PM -0500, Cormac McGuinness wrote: >Hi > >I'm also seeing the screen noise that you describe. I too have >an integrated S3 Savage chipset and am running Xfree 4.1.0-11 >(I also downloaded the appropriate S3 driver from >http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html - savage_drv.o v1.1.20t >as the one supplied with Debian X 4.1 crashed and locked my machine >every time I started X-windows. related to bugs 128125, 111611 and 110974) > >Returning to the screen noise specifically my chipset is : > >(from lspci -v) >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) >Subsystem: Holco Enterprise Co, Ltd/Shuttle Computer: Unknown device 0686 >Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 10 >Memory at dd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) >Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) >Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 >Capabilities: [80] AGP version 2.0 > >But the information I can find on the chipset >http://www.via.com.tw/pdf/productinfo/dspm605brief.pdf >indicates that the chip should have no problem with the resolution > >I am using 16384kB of system memory and the /var/log/Xfree86.0.log >indicates 17 modes found for resolutions up to 1600x1200 > >I can hardly believe you got a screen resolution to display if the chip >didnt support it perhaps there is another answer ? > >Yours >Cormac > > >On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:01:17PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:21:35PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: >> >> The problem was solved in the meantime. >> It turned out that the graphics chip on my motherboard >> didn't support the 1280x1024 resolution, but the documentation >> didn't mention the supported resolutions and it simply didn't >> even occured to me that it might not. I guess I got spoiled >> by the GeForce's in my other boxes... >> >> Balazs >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >After getting my embeded S3 Savage chipset to run XFree86 4.1.0 >> >by downloading the appropriate driver from S3 (see my previos >> >mail a little below) I have now a new problem: >> > >> >During disk operations white noise (like dropout lines, but not through >> >the full screen width) appears to the right of onscreen objects like windows. >> >It's difficult to explain, but it looks like those windows are bleeding >> >to the right for about 5 cm, and the noise is varying. >> >That it occures on disk IO is just a guess, as I can't hear the hard drives, >> >but it usually happens while waiting for something, like Gnome to load. >> > >> >Has anybody some idea, what might cause this, and how to get rid of it? >> > >> >Many thanks for your help in advance! >> >best regards, >> >Balazs >> > >> > >> >-- >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon 7500 (was: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0)
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 14:20, Dave Baker wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > > > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. > > > > True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > > Is that with the 'pretend it's a VE' hack? Yep. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 15:05, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > > all. > > > > 3D is supported on the 7500. > > So there is full 3D acceleration for the 7500, at least as complete as the > windows drivers + opengl offer? Not quite, in particular hardware T&L isn't supported yet. But basically, the driver is working well from what I gather. > Do you know if ATI will assist to such an extent that future OpenGL > offerings by them will be supported w.r.t. 3d acceleration? That seems to be their intention. They provide docs to interested developers and they even contribute code to XFree86 themselves. And with http://tungstengraphics.com/, things are looking even better. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
The 7000 QD AGP card is supported just fine in 4.1.0 as long as one is using the latest DRI modules as included in 2.4.17 and are using `Option "CrtScreen"' in XF86Config-4. For some reason, if one does not specify the type of monitor being used, the monitor gets sent into standby and the computer locks up. Otherwise, XF is purring like a kitten with full 3D acceleration. glxgears reports between 500 to 900 fps. ** Derek J Witt ** * Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ * *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > all. > > 3D is supported on the 7500. So there is full 3D acceleration for the 7500, at least as complete as the windows drivers + opengl offer? Do you know if ATI will assist to such an extent that future OpenGL offerings by them will be supported w.r.t. 3d acceleration? I'm asking, because although the NVidia drivers are very good, it's nice to know about similarly-performing open source equivalents. -- charl p. botha http://cpbotha.net/ http://visualisation.tudelft.nl/
Radeon 7500 (was: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0)
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. > > True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > Is that with the 'pretend it's a VE' hack? I was using 4.1.0-11 when I got my 7500 and it wasn't detected at all. > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > all. > > 3D is supported on the 7500. > I should have been clearer - I've not yet been able to get 3d to work on my 7500 but that's more attributable to not having enough time to spend on the matter rather than the complexity of the task. Dave -- - Dave Baker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://dsb3.com/ - GnuPG: 1024D/D7BCA55D / 09CD D148 57DE 711E 6708 B772 0DD4 51D5 D7BC A55D pgpvCtpL749om.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:29, Dave Baker wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:45:57PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > > ATM there aren't many consumer-oriented video cards with the 3D performance > > of the current generation NVidias that have stable open source driver > > support (and hardware accelerated OpenGL) for XFree86. I do believe that > > the Radeons are slated to fill this niche, but I don't know what the current > > status is w.r.t. 3D acceleration. > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > all. 3D is supported on the 7500. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:45:57PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > Go to www.nvidia.com, download the linux drivers for xfree86. Read the > documentation and install. These drivers are closed-source but do the job > at least as well as their windows counterparts (read: FAST). > Debian can't distribute the drivers (bad license) but there are two packages you may want to look at to make maintaining your drivers easier. Basically, they download the latest driver from nvidia and compile it / prepare it for you. nvidia-glx-src - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver nvidia-kernel-src - NVIDIA binary kernel module I use this on one of my machines with an on board nVidia chip. > ATM there aren't many consumer-oriented video cards with the 3D performance > of the current generation NVidias that have stable open source driver > support (and hardware accelerated OpenGL) for XFree86. I do believe that > the Radeons are slated to fill this niche, but I don't know what the current > status is w.r.t. 3D acceleration. > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at all. Quite frustrating given that the ATI web site lists the entire radeon line as being fully supported in xfree86. Dave -- - Dave Baker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://dsb3.com/ - GnuPG: 1024D/D7BCA55D / 09CD D148 57DE 711E 6708 B772 0DD4 51D5 D7BC A55D pgp6MZSVjCZkT.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > all. > > 3D is supported on the 7500. So there is full 3D acceleration for the 7500, at least as complete as the windows drivers + opengl offer? Do you know if ATI will assist to such an extent that future OpenGL offerings by them will be supported w.r.t. 3d acceleration? I'm asking, because although the NVidia drivers are very good, it's nice to know about similarly-performing open source equivalents. -- charl p. botha http://cpbotha.net/ http://visualisation.tudelft.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radeon 7500 (was: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0)
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. > > True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > Is that with the 'pretend it's a VE' hack? I was using 4.1.0-11 when I got my 7500 and it wasn't detected at all. > > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > > all. > > 3D is supported on the 7500. > I should have been clearer - I've not yet been able to get 3d to work on my 7500 but that's more attributable to not having enough time to spend on the matter rather than the complexity of the task. Dave -- - Dave Baker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://dsb3.com/ - GnuPG: 1024D/D7BCA55D / 09CD D148 57DE 711E 6708 B772 0DD4 51D5 D7BC A55D msg03303/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:29, Dave Baker wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:45:57PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > > ATM there aren't many consumer-oriented video cards with the 3D performance > > of the current generation NVidias that have stable open source driver > > support (and hardware accelerated OpenGL) for XFree86. I do believe that > > the Radeons are slated to fill this niche, but I don't know what the current > > status is w.r.t. 3D acceleration. > > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and > 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. True for the 8500, the 7500 can be used with 4.1 though. > I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at > all. 3D is supported on the 7500. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with libsdl1.2-dev 1.2.2-3.3 and OpenGL?
tir, 2002-01-15 kl. 07:21 skrev Joseph Carter: > I'm sending this to debian-x on the off chance that the next person to get > bitten by this problem will search the archives and find it. I'm not on > debian-x, so please Cc replies if appropriate. > > Actually, the problem here is that Debian does not adhere to the OpenGL > Linux ABI document which requires that libGL be in /usr/lib and only in > /usr/lib, citing this very problem as the reason. Of course, this goes > against the unix way, so naturally no Linux dist I know of actually obeys > the ABI's requirement. And just to make life more interesting, several > different ways of disobeying it exist, some of which are just bizarre. > Basically, when you compile, /usr/X11R6/lib ends up getting checked before > /usr/lib for libGL. To prevent this, the nvidia-glx maintainer diverts > libGL.so*. He neglected to divert libGL.a, which is getting compiled in > to your program. If you're impatient, just rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a and > recompile your program. You can't use it anyway and I promise you won't > miss it. ;) Interesting - it worked ;) Now I can go hit myself for not checking that (indeed I find myself removing libGL.a all the time). Oh well, thanks for the answer and your time. However, I am still wondering how it can be that the problem does not occur when I write X11 code instead of SDL code. But finally I can get back to OpenGL development ;) Thanks again! > Actually, it's basically never a good idea to link the static libGL, it > might be better to not bother installing it in future builds since the > library is most certainly hardware-specific. Older 3dfx cards, and all > NVIDIA cards won't work with that lib at all. The last I've heard from > guys at Matrox was that they too will likely go with a non-Mesa OpenGL, > and possibly ATI will as well. I'm not sure about 3DLabs, but they're not > much of a player in the consumer hardware market and probably don't even > know we exist. Hmm... -- Paul Fleischer // ProGuy Registered Linux User #166300 http://counter.li.org
Re: Accelerated video driver for XFree86 4.1.0
--m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:45:57PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > Go to www.nvidia.com, download the linux drivers for xfree86. Read the > documentation and install. These drivers are closed-source but do the job > at least as well as their windows counterparts (read: FAST). > Debian can't distribute the drivers (bad license) but there are two packages you may want to look at to make maintaining your drivers easier. Basically, they download the latest driver from nvidia and compile it / prepare it for you. nvidia-glx-src - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver nvidia-kernel-src - NVIDIA binary kernel module I use this on one of my machines with an on board nVidia chip. > ATM there aren't many consumer-oriented video cards with the 3D performan= ce > of the current generation NVidias that have stable open source driver > support (and hardware accelerated OpenGL) for XFree86. I do believe that > the Radeons are slated to fill this niche, but I don't know what the curr= ent > status is w.r.t. 3D acceleration. > I can't speak for the earlier Radeon line, but the latest set (7500 and 8500) are only supported in the CVS branch of XFree. I've gotten 2d to work quite acceptably on my 7500, but no 3d support at all. Quite frustrating given that the ATI web site lists the entire radeon line as being fully supported in xfree86. Dave --=20 - Dave Baker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://dsb3.com/ - GnuPG: 1024D/D7BCA55D / 09CD D148 57DE 711E 6708 B772 0DD4 51D5 D7BC A55D --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RCCRDdRR1de8pV0RAjNNAJ9x1ItuwB4wA3dgfYvjZ5q6oi5PyQCfbga7 JcSi6ARyVB+pk+hdpao6oHE= =XMd0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --m51xatjYGsM+13rf-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Solved with kernel 2.4.17-pa11 (was Re: Xfce -3.8.12b error)
Hi all, Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi all, > > > xfwm message (type SessionInit): X Session Manager not available > Using builtin session management instead > > : 1000 1000 1000 > Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) > serial 320 error_code 10 request_code 129 minor_code 3 > Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) > serial 321 error_code 10 request_code 129 minor_code 3 > > What ever the kernel I used (2.4.9 or 2.4.17-pa6). Against all odds, the error is solved with kernel 2.4.17-pa11. Have nice day too, Joel > > I also notice that if I remove .xsession and .xfce then re-run > xfce_setup, the > .xsession is not recreated. > > Thanks in advance for help, > Joel > > > - > This mail sent through Tiscalinet Webmail (http://webmail.tiscali.be) > - This mail sent through Tiscalinet Webmail (http://webmail.tiscali.be)
Re: Problems with libsdl1.2-dev 1.2.2-3.3 and OpenGL?
tir, 2002-01-15 kl. 07:21 skrev Joseph Carter: > I'm sending this to debian-x on the off chance that the next person to get > bitten by this problem will search the archives and find it. I'm not on > debian-x, so please Cc replies if appropriate. > > Actually, the problem here is that Debian does not adhere to the OpenGL > Linux ABI document which requires that libGL be in /usr/lib and only in > /usr/lib, citing this very problem as the reason. Of course, this goes > against the unix way, so naturally no Linux dist I know of actually obeys > the ABI's requirement. And just to make life more interesting, several > different ways of disobeying it exist, some of which are just bizarre. > Basically, when you compile, /usr/X11R6/lib ends up getting checked before > /usr/lib for libGL. To prevent this, the nvidia-glx maintainer diverts > libGL.so*. He neglected to divert libGL.a, which is getting compiled in > to your program. If you're impatient, just rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a and > recompile your program. You can't use it anyway and I promise you won't > miss it. ;) Interesting - it worked ;) Now I can go hit myself for not checking that (indeed I find myself removing libGL.a all the time). Oh well, thanks for the answer and your time. However, I am still wondering how it can be that the problem does not occur when I write X11 code instead of SDL code. But finally I can get back to OpenGL development ;) Thanks again! > Actually, it's basically never a good idea to link the static libGL, it > might be better to not bother installing it in future builds since the > library is most certainly hardware-specific. Older 3dfx cards, and all > NVIDIA cards won't work with that lib at all. The last I've heard from > guys at Matrox was that they too will likely go with a non-Mesa OpenGL, > and possibly ATI will as well. I'm not sure about 3DLabs, but they're not > much of a player in the consumer hardware market and probably don't even > know we exist. Hmm... -- Paul Fleischer // ProGuy Registered Linux User #166300 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solved with kernel 2.4.17-pa11 (was Re: Xfce -3.8.12b error)
Hi all, Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi all, > > > xfwm message (type SessionInit): X Session Manager not available > Using builtin session management instead > > : 1000 1000 1000 > Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) > serial 320 error_code 10 request_code 129 minor_code 3 > Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) > serial 321 error_code 10 request_code 129 minor_code 3 > > What ever the kernel I used (2.4.9 or 2.4.17-pa6). Against all odds, the error is solved with kernel 2.4.17-pa11. Have nice day too, Joel > > I also notice that if I remove .xsession and .xfce then re-run > xfce_setup, the > .xsession is not recreated. > > Thanks in advance for help, > Joel > > > - > This mail sent through Tiscalinet Webmail (http://webmail.tiscali.be) > - This mail sent through Tiscalinet Webmail (http://webmail.tiscali.be) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with libsdl1.2-dev 1.2.2-3.3 and OpenGL?
I'm sending this to debian-x on the off chance that the next person to get bitten by this problem will search the archives and find it. I'm not on debian-x, so please Cc replies if appropriate. On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:33:00AM +0100, Paul Fleischer wrote: > > > in some way. When I try to compile any program using SDL and OpenGL, the > > > window/screen shows the last image, from the OpenGL program which was > > > previous run. > > I am one of those nvidia-using-guys, sorry. However, I find that when I > write code against X11, and GL it works just fine - so, I would say SDL > is somewhat broken (hopefully I am wrong in this) Actually, the problem here is that Debian does not adhere to the OpenGL Linux ABI document which requires that libGL be in /usr/lib and only in /usr/lib, citing this very problem as the reason. Of course, this goes against the unix way, so naturally no Linux dist I know of actually obeys the ABI's requirement. And just to make life more interesting, several different ways of disobeying it exist, some of which are just bizarre. Basically, when you compile, /usr/X11R6/lib ends up getting checked before /usr/lib for libGL. To prevent this, the nvidia-glx maintainer diverts libGL.so*. He neglected to divert libGL.a, which is getting compiled in to your program. If you're impatient, just rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a and recompile your program. You can't use it anyway and I promise you won't miss it. ;) Actually, it's basically never a good idea to link the static libGL, it might be better to not bother installing it in future builds since the library is most certainly hardware-specific. Older 3dfx cards, and all NVIDIA cards won't work with that lib at all. The last I've heard from guys at Matrox was that they too will likely go with a non-Mesa OpenGL, and possibly ATI will as well. I'm not sure about 3DLabs, but they're not much of a player in the consumer hardware market and probably don't even know we exist. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I swear this thing's an AI! add a GF2/3, a sizable hard drive, and a 15" flat panel and you've got a pretty damned portable machine. a GeForce Two-Thirds? Coderjoe: yes, a GeForce two-thirds, ie, any card from ATI. pgpFiprn99mCT.pgp Description: PGP signature