Powerbook G4 and Radeon Mobility M6 LY

[Patrick Sodre]

Hi Guys,
   I don't have much error messages but the 4.2.0 version 
is not working using the ATI driver, it only produces a 
blank/black screen when X starts. 
   The way around this, until the radeon driver works, is to 
use the "fbdev" driver.
   
 
Regards,
Patrick Sodre

PS: Please cc me since I'm not yet in this list.



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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
> Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
> or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
> allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
> filing it as a bug against those two packages.

wdm will use your .xsession.  In the "Start WM" menu, select "Default".

wdm will remember your previous selection, so if you've selected one of
the other available options, you'll continue seeing the behavior
selected until you select something else.  That might be why you're
seeing something other than what you expect.

noah
(wdm maintainer)

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
> Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
> or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
> allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
> filing it as a bug against those two packages.

wdm will use your .xsession.  In the "Start WM" menu, select "Default".

wdm will remember your previous selection, so if you've selected one of
the other available options, you'll continue seeing the behavior
selected until you select something else.  That might be why you're
seeing something other than what you expect.

noah
(wdm maintainer)

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autodetecting TFT monitors

[Othmar Pasteka]

hi,

[[ Please Cc me, as I am not subscribed to debian-x. thanks ]]

somewhen i heard that the current X4.1 .deb packages would
autodetect TFT monitors.
true/false? since someone tried woody and the X installation and
got a dialog box to enter frequencies although a tft was
attached. disclaimer: i don't really know if providing
frequencies is still needed for TFTs, please educate me, if i am
wrong :).

TIA und so long
Othmar


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Re: Radeon 8500 issues w/ 4.2-prev1

[Branden Robinson]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 11:33:17AM -0700, J. Imlay wrote:
> I have tried several different setups with this, the 2D acceleration
> driver that comes stock works except that xvideo puts a black layer on top
> of the picture. (If I move the window fast, the movie will start to slide
> out from under the black window on top of it.) I can fix this by first
> playing something with xvidix (which requires root) and then after that
> xvideo will work a couple of times. I think this is the X ati driver and
> not the debs, but just stating that it doesn't all work for me here.

XVideo is not supported upstream on the Radeon 8500 in XFree86 4.2.0.

Keith Packard recently committed fixes to upstream CVS for it, though,
so we can likely expect this problem to be fixed in XFree86 4.3.0.

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Radeon 8500 issues w/ 4.2-prev1

[J. Imlay]

I have tried several different setups with this, the 2D acceleration
driver that comes stock works except that xvideo puts a black layer on top
of the picture. (If I move the window fast, the movie will start to slide
out from under the black window on top of it.) I can fix this by first
playing something with xvidix (which requires root) and then after that
xvideo will work a couple of times. I think this is the X ati driver and
not the debs, but just stating that it doesn't all work for me here.

Then I downloaded the fglr200 drivers from ati and everything works
(including quake @ 1600x1200 nicely) except video at all. The only output
mode that works is X11. I realize this probably has nothing to do with
the X 4.2debs because the driver I am actually using is from ati. (other
problem is that I can't get it to go at 16bit color, only 24) Any
sugestions?

(The other was AccelX and bleh!)

Thanks,

Josie Imlay





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autodetecting TFT monitors

[Othmar Pasteka]

hi,

[[ Please Cc me, as I am not subscribed to debian-x. thanks ]]

somewhen i heard that the current X4.1 .deb packages would
autodetect TFT monitors.
true/false? since someone tried woody and the X installation and
got a dialog box to enter frequencies although a tft was
attached. disclaimer: i don't really know if providing
frequencies is still needed for TFTs, please educate me, if i am
wrong :).

TIA und so long
Othmar


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Re: Radeon 8500 issues w/ 4.2-prev1

[Branden Robinson]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 11:33:17AM -0700, J. Imlay wrote:
> I have tried several different setups with this, the 2D acceleration
> driver that comes stock works except that xvideo puts a black layer on top
> of the picture. (If I move the window fast, the movie will start to slide
> out from under the black window on top of it.) I can fix this by first
> playing something with xvidix (which requires root) and then after that
> xvideo will work a couple of times. I think this is the X ati driver and
> not the debs, but just stating that it doesn't all work for me here.

XVideo is not supported upstream on the Radeon 8500 in XFree86 4.2.0.

Keith Packard recently committed fixes to upstream CVS for it, though,
so we can likely expect this problem to be fixed in XFree86 4.3.0.

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Radeon 8500 issues w/ 4.2-prev1

[J. Imlay]

I have tried several different setups with this, the 2D acceleration
driver that comes stock works except that xvideo puts a black layer on top
of the picture. (If I move the window fast, the movie will start to slide
out from under the black window on top of it.) I can fix this by first
playing something with xvidix (which requires root) and then after that
xvideo will work a couple of times. I think this is the X ati driver and
not the debs, but just stating that it doesn't all work for me here.

Then I downloaded the fglr200 drivers from ati and everything works
(including quake @ 1600x1200 nicely) except video at all. The only output
mode that works is X11. I realize this probably has nothing to do with
the X 4.2debs because the driver I am actually using is from ati. (other
problem is that I can't get it to go at 16bit color, only 24) Any
sugestions?

(The other was AccelX and bleh!)

Thanks,

Josie Imlay





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Re: 4.2 install report

[Thatcher Ulrich]

On Jun 27, 2002 at 10:05 -0400, Thatcher Ulrich wrote:
> 
> BTW, can someone quickly explain what I do to try the new version of
> the package?  I'm a Debian newbie, so I only really understand the
> basics of dselect/aptitude.

Pardon the monologue, but I'm stuck about halfway through this
upgrade.  I figured out that I can go to
http://people.debian.org/~branden and select a mirror site for the new
.debs, and put that in my /etc/apt/sources.list.  So aptitude now
shows the 4.2 packages for x-window-system and x-window-system-core.
I selected them for download/installation, did it, and got some
messages saying the new stuff is being installed.  aptitude shows
4.2.0-0pre1v1 as the currently installed versions of those packages.
However, nothing seems to have changed!  I exited X and restarted, and
/var/log/XFree86.0.log still prints 4.1.0-17 as the version, and the
date on the file /usr/X11R6/bin/X is still April 18...  I tried
reinstalling a couple of times, to no avail.

Any clues appreciated!  Thanks in advance :)

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Re: xfree86_4.2.0-0pre1v1

[Sven Luther]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> On Sun 23 Jun 2002 02:23, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 11:45:16PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > > I jsut finished upgrading to the new x-window-system, but the
> > > configuration failed?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > (**) GLINT(0): Option "UseFBDev" "true"
> > > (==) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor
> > > (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
> > > (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
> > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
> > > (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > >   compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.0.2
> > >   ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
> > > (EE) GLINT(0): open /dev/fb0: No such device
> > > (EE) GLINT(0): fbdevHWInit failed!
> >
> > Looks like you don't have a /dev/fb0 device.
> >
> > Either use MAKEDEV to create one, or reconfigure the X server to omit
> > the "UseFBDev" "true" line.  (I.e., don't use the framebuffer
> > interface.)
> >
> > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> 
> That might be an option, but I noticed, right after sending the last mail, 

The fbdev code in the glint driver is hardcoded to work with the
permedia2 chip only, which is not the one you have.

Mostly the glint driver interacts ok with fbdevs, without need for the
UseFBDev line.

Branden, do you think i should send you a patch for 4.2 which test for
people specifying UseFBDev with something other than a permedia2 and
ignore it in this case ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: 4.2 install report

[Thatcher Ulrich]

On Jun 27, 2002 at 12:17 -0400, Thatcher Ulrich wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2002 at 06:19 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> 
> > I upgraded from whatever is in Debian unstable to 4.2.0pre1v1.
> > Everything went smoothly, no problems. I can finally switch from the
> > X console to another virtual console and back without crashing the
> > server (Trident Cyberblade). Very nice.
> 
> Hm, very encouraging -- this might be the same problem that has been
> bugging me (with 4.1.0-17).  If I do C-A-F1 from within X, the virtual

BTW, can someone quickly explain what I do to try the new version of
the package?  I'm a Debian newbie, so I only really understand the
basics of dselect/aptitude.

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Re: 4.2 install report

[Thatcher Ulrich]

On Jun 27, 2002 at 10:05 -0400, Thatcher Ulrich wrote:
> 
> BTW, can someone quickly explain what I do to try the new version of
> the package?  I'm a Debian newbie, so I only really understand the
> basics of dselect/aptitude.

Pardon the monologue, but I'm stuck about halfway through this
upgrade.  I figured out that I can go to
http://people.debian.org/~branden and select a mirror site for the new
.debs, and put that in my /etc/apt/sources.list.  So aptitude now
shows the 4.2 packages for x-window-system and x-window-system-core.
I selected them for download/installation, did it, and got some
messages saying the new stuff is being installed.  aptitude shows
4.2.0-0pre1v1 as the currently installed versions of those packages.
However, nothing seems to have changed!  I exited X and restarted, and
/var/log/XFree86.0.log still prints 4.1.0-17 as the version, and the
date on the file /usr/X11R6/bin/X is still April 18...  I tried
reinstalling a couple of times, to no avail.

Any clues appreciated!  Thanks in advance :)

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Re: xfree86_4.2.0-0pre1v1

[Sven Luther]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> On Sun 23 Jun 2002 02:23, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 11:45:16PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > > I jsut finished upgrading to the new x-window-system, but the
> > > configuration failed?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > (**) GLINT(0): Option "UseFBDev" "true"
> > > (==) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor
> > > (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
> > > (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
> > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
> > > (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > >   compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.0.2
> > >   ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
> > > (EE) GLINT(0): open /dev/fb0: No such device
> > > (EE) GLINT(0): fbdevHWInit failed!
> >
> > Looks like you don't have a /dev/fb0 device.
> >
> > Either use MAKEDEV to create one, or reconfigure the X server to omit
> > the "UseFBDev" "true" line.  (I.e., don't use the framebuffer
> > interface.)
> >
> > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> 
> That might be an option, but I noticed, right after sending the last mail, 

The fbdev code in the glint driver is hardcoded to work with the
permedia2 chip only, which is not the one you have.

Mostly the glint driver interacts ok with fbdevs, without need for the
UseFBDev line.

Branden, do you think i should send you a patch for 4.2 which test for
people specifying UseFBDev with something other than a permedia2 and
ignore it in this case ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: 4.2 install report

[Thatcher Ulrich]

On Jun 27, 2002 at 12:17 -0400, Thatcher Ulrich wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2002 at 06:19 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> 
> > I upgraded from whatever is in Debian unstable to 4.2.0pre1v1.
> > Everything went smoothly, no problems. I can finally switch from the
> > X console to another virtual console and back without crashing the
> > server (Trident Cyberblade). Very nice.
> 
> Hm, very encouraging -- this might be the same problem that has been
> bugging me (with 4.1.0-17).  If I do C-A-F1 from within X, the virtual

BTW, can someone quickly explain what I do to try the new version of
the package?  I'm a Debian newbie, so I only really understand the
basics of dselect/aptitude.

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Re: X server lockup with 2.4 kernel

[Nick]

> On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 09:17, Nick wrote:
> > 
> > The server doesn't complete redrawing of the screen and gets stuck after I 
> > switch among virtual terminals.  It happens in the following circumstances:
> > 
> > - boot into a 2.4 kernel, currently 2.4.18.
> > - Once X is running, CTRL/ALT/F1 to the console then ALT/F7 back
> > 
> > With 2.2.20 and other 2.2 kernels I've tried, the problem doesn't occur.
> 
> Probably because DRI isn't enabled with that. This is a known problem
> which has been discussed a lot on the Xpert and dri-devel lists. It
> works for some people but doesn't for others.
> 
> If you don't need DRI, just disable it.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
> XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast
> 

The problem does not recur after removing 'Load "dri"' from the 'Module' 
section and removing the 'DRI' section from XF86Config-4.  Thanks.

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