Re: X 4.2.0 on Woody/mips: can't find modules

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 10:08:20PM -0400, Mike Martin wrote:
> In order to track down my own problem I've been looking through the
> .debs for some of the other Architectures. The xserver-xfree86 debs for
> the others I have looked at contain the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules directory
> and a whole lot of module files. The xserver-xfree86 deb for mips has
> none of these. Has something gone wrong with the build? Am I right that
> these files are missing in error and should have been included? 
> 
> Is there something I can do to help fix this? If the debs need to be
> rebuilt, I'm willing to give it a go - although I've never built one
> before so it may be a bit of a learning curve!

Search this list for messages by Guido Guenther.

In short, the module loader is broken on MIPS and starting with 0pre1v3
I'll be building a static server on the mips and mipsel architectures.

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Re: xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 06:08:56AM +0200, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> The TrueType fonts from xfree86-truetype-fonts[1] are in
> xfree86-nonfree-truetype[2].  xft[3] contains the new Xft stuff from
> http://keithp.com/fonts/, AFAIK it's not available in a Debian package
> yet.

Ah, that stuff.

I've been watching Keith's commit messages with great interest.  It does
look like cool stuff but he's still chasing the bugs out of it.

I'd rather wait until Keith has given some indication that the code is
stable before I'd even want to consider patching up to it.

Most likely, the best approach is just to get it with the rest of 4.3.0
when that is released.

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Re: xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 12:00:31PM +0800, Anthony Fok wrote:
> According to www.rpmfind.net, Red Hat's XFree86-truetype-fonts package
> contains:
[...]
> i.e. XFree86-truetype-fonts in Red Hat corresponds to the
>  xfonts-scalable-nonfree package in Debian.  :-)

Ah, so all Michael had to do was read
/usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/copyright.  :)

Or the changelogs of the 4.2.0 pre-packages.  :)

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Re: xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Michael Cardenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The new redhat beta, limbo, uses xft and a package called
> xfree86-truetype-fonts for displaying schweet looking fonts. 
> 
> These packages are not included in the 4.2.0 series of debs. Do they
> just have different names? Is there some reason we don't include
> them?

The TrueType fonts from xfree86-truetype-fonts[1] are in
xfree86-nonfree-truetype[2].  xft[3] contains the new Xft stuff from
http://keithp.com/fonts/, AFAIK it's not available in a Debian package
yet.


Juergen

Footnotes: 
[1]  
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/XFree86-truetype-fonts-4.2.0-60.1.i386.html

[2]  http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/xfonts-scalable-nonfree.html

[3]  
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/Xft-1.9.1.020708.0036-2.i386.html

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Re: xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Anthony Fok
Hi all,

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 10:27:22PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
> > The new redhat beta, limbo, uses xft and a package called
> > xfree86-truetype-fonts for displaying schweet looking fonts. 
> > 
> > These packages are not included in the 4.2.0 series of debs. Do they
> > just have different names? Is there some reason we don't include them?
> 
> Well, why don't you tell us what files are in those packages, and maybe
> we can tell you if they come from the XFree86 source package or not?

According to www.rpmfind.net, Red Hat's XFree86-truetype-fonts package
contains:

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/encodings.dir
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.dir
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.scale
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximbi.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximr.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximri.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxirb.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxirbi.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxirr.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxirri.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxisb.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxisbi.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxisr.ttf
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luxisri.ttf

> * The name of a Red Hat package is not particularly meaningful.
> * As far as I've been able to tell I'm shipping just about everything
>   new that there is to ship.
> * Do you read debian-devel, debian-legal, or Debian Weekly News?  You
>   might interested to learn that most "schweet" TrueType fonts are
>   non-free.  Red Hat cares a lot less about licensing than Debian does.
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200208/msg00080.html

i.e. XFree86-truetype-fonts in Red Hat corresponds to the
 xfonts-scalable-nonfree package in Debian.  :-)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:38:56PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
> You did not include patch #135, which allows i810 users to have dri
> without obscure xf86config options. 
> 
> Do you plan to include this patch? It was mentioned here: 
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/debian-x-200208/msg00011.html 

I overlooked it; please calm down.

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Re: xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
> The new redhat beta, limbo, uses xft and a package called
> xfree86-truetype-fonts for displaying schweet looking fonts. 
> 
> These packages are not included in the 4.2.0 series of debs. Do they
> just have different names? Is there some reason we don't include them?

Well, why don't you tell us what files are in those packages, and maybe
we can tell you if they come from the XFree86 source package or not?

* The name of a Red Hat package is not particularly meaningful.
* As far as I've been able to tell I'm shipping just about everything
  new that there is to ship.
* Do you read debian-devel, debian-legal, or Debian Weekly News?  You
  might interested to learn that most "schweet" TrueType fonts are
  non-free.  Red Hat cares a lot less about licensing than Debian does.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200208/msg00080.html

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Mike Martin
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:32:06 +0200
Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> the changelog says:/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> 
>   * TODO: mips wants to build the server modules as shared objects
>   instead of
> static ones; why?
> 
> because the ELF loader doesn't work on mips yet(and shared object
> modules are better than no modules at all since it reduces linking
> time a lot when doing driver work). I have started to work on the ELF
> loader but there's quiet some work to do left. Feel free to disable
> modules at all on mips for the moment.
> Regards,
>  -- Guido
> 
> P.S.: im not subscribed to debian-x so pleace cc: me on replies

I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to use the .debs for 4.2.0 on MIPS for
a while now. It can't find the modules pcidata and bitmap. Neither can
I! Actually, the whole "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" directory does not
exist. Is this because of what you explain above? I think I'm getting
the "no modules at all" option, which isn't working out.

Is there an interm solution? I'd really like to get X working again!

Thanks!
Mike . Martin @ cogeco . ca



Re: X 4.2.0 on Woody/mips: can't find modules

2002-08-08 Thread Mike Martin
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:23:44 -0400
Mike Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:15:40 -0400
> Mike Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have a Debian/Woody install on an SGI Indy with the Newport XL-24
> > gfx card. I had a working XFree86 until I upgraded to 4.2.0. Now it
> > can not find the necessary modules. Attached below is the error log.
> > 
> > The packages were updated using dselect from
> > http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/mips/.
> > 
> > The ModulePath directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" given does not exist
> > ... h

In order to track down my own problem I've been looking through the
.debs for some of the other Architectures. The xserver-xfree86 debs for
the others I have looked at contain the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules directory
and a whole lot of module files. The xserver-xfree86 deb for mips has
none of these. Has something gone wrong with the build? Am I right that
these files are missing in error and should have been included? 

Is there something I can do to help fix this? If the debs need to be
rebuilt, I'm willing to give it a go - although I've never built one
before so it may be a bit of a learning curve!

Thanks for the help. 
Mike . Martin @ cogeco . ca
http: // overlord . linux-dude . com



xft and xfree86-truetype-fonts

2002-08-08 Thread Michael Cardenas
The new redhat beta, limbo, uses xft and a package called
xfree86-truetype-fonts for displaying schweet looking fonts. 

These packages are not included in the 4.2.0 series of debs. Do they
just have different names? Is there some reason we don't include them?

thanks
  michael

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Michael Cardenas
Hello. 

You did not include patch #135, which allows i810 users to have dri
without obscure xf86config options. 

Do you plan to include this patch? It was mentioned here: 

http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/debian-x-200208/msg00011.html 

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4.2.0 nVidia driver comments

2002-08-08 Thread Chris Lawrence
Thanks, Branden, for including the nv driver backport in the latest
4.2.0 prerelease (which added support for the GeForce2 Go).  I tried
switching from the *gag* non-free binary driver to nv, and it mostly
worked, with the following caveats:

- Segfault when the glx driver was loaded.  There were two unresolved
  _gl symbols in the X server backtrace; I can get the trace if that
  will help some.  (Rebooting without the nvidia binary module loaded
  did not help any.)

- The mouse cursor didn't render right; it was small, red, and in two
  more-or-less identical pieces about 30 pixels apart separated by a
  bit of pixel garbage.  (Probably using a software cursor would have
  fixed this.)

- There is no third caveat.  Or maybe there was, but I forgot it.

The other minor difficulty is that I had to disable Xkb because of my
fubared laptop keyboard.  It might be nice if a really low priority
debconf question could be included for this, so I can fully dexconf my setup.


Chris
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Graphics error since upgrade to Xfree 4.2

2002-08-08 Thread Thomas Schoepf
Hello,

since I've installed Xfree4.2 packages on my machine, I'm seeing a
strange graphics error with all Mozilla buttons: There are some pixels
missing on each of the four corners (see screenshot on
http://atschlichter33.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/mozilla.png).

When I drag another window over the buttons then they're repainted
correctly.

Who's to blame for that? X? Mozilla? My stupid hardware? (ATI Radeon
32SDR AGP (tried different resolutions and color depths) )

Before I moved my workstation to Xfree 4.2, I installed it on a notebook
with integrated intel i830 graphics - works just fine.

Thank you!

Thomas
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xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 for hppa available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-hppa.]

Thanks as usual to ISHIKAWA Mutsumi for rolling these.

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 05:41:37PM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote:
>  Of cause yes :-)
>  I'm building it on my hppa box (but my hppa box 735/125 is old and
> slow, please wait a few hours...)

yikes -- you could build on paer.debian.org which is an A500 and should
give sustantially faster compile times!

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>   Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Can you modify the source tree on the hppa box you're using and go ahead
>> and build?  There's no reason to make hppa folks wait until 0pre1v3 for
>> this if there are no other build-time problems.

 OK, 0pre1v2 binaryies for hppa are now available.

 http://people.debian.org/~ishikawa/XFree86/4.2.0-0pre1v2/hppa/

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>   Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:47:02AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote:
>
>> Can you modify the source tree on the hppa box you're using and go ahead
>> and build?  There's no reason to make hppa folks wait until 0pre1v3 for
>> this if there are no other build-time problems.
>>
>> Thanks again!

 Of cause yes :-)
 I'm building it on my hppa box (but my hppa box 735/125 is old and
slow, please wait a few hours...)

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xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 for alpha, sh4, sparc available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-alpha or debian-superh.]

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:41:28AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote:
>  Built on alpha, sparc and sh4 are successfull.

These are now available at the X Strike Force as well.  Thanks!

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-hppa]

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:47:02AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote:
>  I forget to say about xserver-xfree86.files.hppa.
>  /usr/X11R6/man/man4/nv.4 is also missing from xserver-xfree86.files.hppa
>  tiny Patch to fix it is here:
> 
>  
> http://people.debian.org/~ishikawa/XFree86/4.2.0-0pre1v2/hppa/xserver-xfree86.files.hppa.diff

Thanks, I've updated what will be 0pre1v3 to fix the MANIFEST and this
file for hppa.

Can you modify the source tree on the hppa box you're using and go ahead
and build?  There's no reason to make hppa folks wait until 0pre1v3 for
this if there are no other build-time problems.

Thanks again!

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xfree86_4.2.0-0pre1v2 for powerpc available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
See subject.

Those of you with NVidia video hardware will likely be interested in
these.

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Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v2 (source,i386) available at the X Strike Force

2002-08-08 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>   Grant Grundler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I tried add the following line to my sources.list:
>> deb-src http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/

 It is wrong. Please add these:

deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/$(ARCH)/
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/source/

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