Bug#787538: New compose sequences for Esperanto
Package: libx11-data Version: 2:1.6.3-1 Severity: wishlist Is there way we could get : "Ĉ" U0108 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĉ" U0108 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "ĉ" U0109 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĝ" U011C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĝ" U011C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "ĝ" U011D # LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĥ" U0124 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĥ" U0124 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "ĥ" U0125 # LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĵ" U0134 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ĵ" U0134 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "ĵ" U0135 # LATIN SMALL LETTER J WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ŝ" U015C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ŝ" U015C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "ŝ" U015D # LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH CIRCUMFLEX : "Ŭ" U016C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH BREVE : "Ŭ" U016C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH BREVE : "ŭ" U016D # LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH BREVE added to /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose ? They correspond to standard ASCIIizations of Esperanto, and they're a lot easier then Multi_key Shift 9. They don't conflict with anything else in the compose file.
Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:53:52PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > We concluded that the main reason why we insist on the right to modify > software is the need to maintain it. After carefully checking the > technical, as opposed to artistic, quality of the Lucidux fonts (it is > excellent, thanks to Y&Y), we agreed that there is no reason > whatsoever why we should need to modify them in the foreseeable > future, and decided to include these fonts in our tree. Does it cover Latin-3? If it doesn't, then there's a number of characters that could be added in minutes with the right tools to provide for support of Esperanto, Maltese and other languages, but we can't, because of the license. Even if it covers Latin-3, there's many languages written out there in the Latin script where this extra letter or that extra letter would allow us to support the language with the font; but we can't because of the license. > I believe that Chuck's attitude in the matter is typical of that of > most font designers. Currently. That attitude was also true for many programmers at one time who now write free software. I hope a similar change happens with font designers. > Thus, I am firmly convinced that as Free > Software becomes better known in the font design community, we will > receive donations of more high-quality fonts, and that these are > likely to come under terms similar to those of the B&H Lucidux > licence. Thus, I would be very keen on seeing a carefully-written > exception for fonts included in the DFSG. > > As you can see, the arguments above are of a purely pragmatic and > technical nature (as typical of XFree86). I am not sufficiently > familiar with the Debian project to understand whether you wish to be > guided by considerations of this sort, or whether ideological > considerations are more important. While the issues on unmodifiable non-software stuff in Debian are not as clear-cut as Branden has made them out to be (I know of at least a half dozen packages in main that are unmodifiable, that were put there knowing that), I find the same reasons for Free fonts as Free software. We need the ability to modify fonts - to add characters, to fix bugs, to make personal choices on characters, to convert to new formats (what if X 5.0 only supports OpenType and BDF fonts, and Y&Y isn't interested in converting them?) - or we lose a lot of flexibility (a more ideological person would say freedom). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg
Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:53:52PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > We concluded that the main reason why we insist on the right to modify > software is the need to maintain it. After carefully checking the > technical, as opposed to artistic, quality of the Lucidux fonts (it is > excellent, thanks to Y&Y), we agreed that there is no reason > whatsoever why we should need to modify them in the foreseeable > future, and decided to include these fonts in our tree. Does it cover Latin-3? If it doesn't, then there's a number of characters that could be added in minutes with the right tools to provide for support of Esperanto, Maltese and other languages, but we can't, because of the license. Even if it covers Latin-3, there's many languages written out there in the Latin script where this extra letter or that extra letter would allow us to support the language with the font; but we can't because of the license. > I believe that Chuck's attitude in the matter is typical of that of > most font designers. Currently. That attitude was also true for many programmers at one time who now write free software. I hope a similar change happens with font designers. > Thus, I am firmly convinced that as Free > Software becomes better known in the font design community, we will > receive donations of more high-quality fonts, and that these are > likely to come under terms similar to those of the B&H Lucidux > licence. Thus, I would be very keen on seeing a carefully-written > exception for fonts included in the DFSG. > > As you can see, the arguments above are of a purely pragmatic and > technical nature (as typical of XFree86). I am not sufficiently > familiar with the Debian project to understand whether you wish to be > guided by considerations of this sort, or whether ideological > considerations are more important. While the issues on unmodifiable non-software stuff in Debian are not as clear-cut as Branden has made them out to be (I know of at least a half dozen packages in main that are unmodifiable, that were put there knowing that), I find the same reasons for Free fonts as Free software. We need the ability to modify fonts - to add characters, to fix bugs, to make personal choices on characters, to convert to new formats (what if X 5.0 only supports OpenType and BDF fonts, and Y&Y isn't interested in converting them?) - or we lose a lot of flexibility (a more ideological person would say freedom). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:26:28PM -0600, sam th wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I think requiring a *small* compatibility subset is the way to go. There's > > not all that many things a terminal emulator needs to be able to > > configurably from the command line to satisfy the requirements of a program > > (as opposed to a user) that calls it: > > > > 1) accept a geometry specification > > 2) accept a title > > 3) exec a specified command > > > > 4) Maybe, *maybe* we should require -ls (login shell) support, but even > that > > is pushing it, I think. > > > > To follow up on my earlier research: > xterm, rxvt, kterm, [g,k,c]rxvt, gnome-terminal, Eterm > all support 1, 2, 3, 4 powershell supports the first three only. powershell options -e, --execute=ARG Start PowerShell with a different program -g, --geometry=ARG Sets the window geometry -c, --config=ARG Defines an alturnate configuration file -t, --title=ARG Window title text -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:08:32PM -0800, Bradley Bell wrote: > isn't xterm the 'de facto' standard? it would seem to me that any options > xterm understands ought to be supported by x-terminal-emulator. If > a certain terminal emulater is not xterm compatible, it would be trivial to > provide an 'xterm compatibility wrapper', and have x-terminal-emulator point > to that. No. xterm has features that don't exist in any other terminal emulator - Unicode support (-u8), for example. There is no reason for every terminal emulator to support all the options that xterm supports (try xterm -h 2>&1 | less and take a look.) As for -e and -T, I know that Powershell offers x-terminal-emulator and doesn't accept -T. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:26:28PM -0600, sam th wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I think requiring a *small* compatibility subset is the way to go. There's > > not all that many things a terminal emulator needs to be able to > > configurably from the command line to satisfy the requirements of a program > > (as opposed to a user) that calls it: > > > > 1) accept a geometry specification > > 2) accept a title > > 3) exec a specified command > > > > 4) Maybe, *maybe* we should require -ls (login shell) support, but even > that > > is pushing it, I think. > > > > To follow up on my earlier research: > xterm, rxvt, kterm, [g,k,c]rxvt, gnome-terminal, Eterm > all support 1, 2, 3, 4 powershell supports the first three only. powershell options -e, --execute=ARG Start PowerShell with a different program -g, --geometry=ARG Sets the window geometry -c, --config=ARG Defines an alturnate configuration file -t, --title=ARG Window title text -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:08:32PM -0800, Bradley Bell wrote: > isn't xterm the 'de facto' standard? it would seem to me that any options > xterm understands ought to be supported by x-terminal-emulator. If > a certain terminal emulater is not xterm compatible, it would be trivial to > provide an 'xterm compatibility wrapper', and have x-terminal-emulator point > to that. No. xterm has features that don't exist in any other terminal emulator - Unicode support (-u8), for example. There is no reason for every terminal emulator to support all the options that xterm supports (try xterm -h 2>&1 | less and take a look.) As for -e and -T, I know that Powershell offers x-terminal-emulator and doesn't accept -T. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:24:24AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases > > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code > > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently > > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for > > > X, I figured I'd ask here first. > > > > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I mentioned it on i18n@xfree86.org, and it didn't sound like they would > be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't > think anyone else has a eo_EO locale. I probably wouldn't apply that patch, since glibc2.2 doesn't have a eo_EO locale, and eo_XX (which X supports) is closer to correct. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS
Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:24:24AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases > > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code > > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently > > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for > > > X, I figured I'd ask here first. > > > > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I mentioned it on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it didn't sound like they would > be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't > think anyone else has a eo_EO locale. I probably wouldn't apply that patch, since glibc2.2 doesn't have a eo_EO locale, and eo_XX (which X supports) is closer to correct. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for > > X, I figured I'd ask here first. > > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mentioned it on i18n@xfree86.org, and it didn't sound like they would be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't think anyone else has a eo_EO locale. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS --- /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.aliasFri Sep 22 15:30:28 2000 +++ locale.aliasSat Sep 23 22:46:44 2000 @@ -114,6 +114,8 @@ eo eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX.ISO8859-3eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO.ISO8859-3eo_XX.ISO8859-3 es es_ES.ISO8859-1 es_AR es_AR.ISO8859-1 es_AR.iso88591 es_AR.ISO8859-1 @@ -618,6 +620,8 @@ eo:eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX.ISO8859-3: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO.ISO8859-3: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 es:es_ES.ISO8859-1 es_AR: es_AR.ISO8859-1 es_AR.iso88591:es_AR.ISO8859-1
Re: eo_EO added to locale.alias
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:14:34PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases > > for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code > > (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently > > supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for > > X, I figured I'd ask here first. > > Come up with a patch to the source, and either submit it to me or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mentioned it on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it didn't sound like they would be interested in such a patch. It's fairly Debian specific, as I don't think anyone else has a eo_EO locale. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS --- /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.aliasFri Sep 22 15:30:28 2000 +++ locale.aliasSat Sep 23 22:46:44 2000 @@ -114,6 +114,8 @@ eo eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX.ISO8859-3eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO.ISO8859-3eo_XX.ISO8859-3 es es_ES.ISO8859-1 es_AR es_AR.ISO8859-1 es_AR.iso88591 es_AR.ISO8859-1 @@ -618,6 +620,8 @@ eo:eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 eo_XX.ISO8859-3: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 +eo_EO.ISO8859-3: eo_XX.ISO8859-3 es:es_ES.ISO8859-1 es_AR: es_AR.ISO8859-1 es_AR.iso88591:es_AR.ISO8859-1
eo_EO added to locale.alias
Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for X, I figured I'd ask here first. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS
eo_EO added to locale.alias
Can we get eo_EO and eo_EO.ISO8859-3 added to locale.alias as aliases for eo_XX.ISO8859-3? It's not correct, as EO isn't a valid country code (if it is, we aren't using it as intended), but (Debian's) libc currently supports eo_EO and not eo_XX, and since the short-term fix is easier for X, I figured I'd ask here first. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:50:49PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:38:03PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> > David Starner writes:
> >
> > > snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
> > > "%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
> > > "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
> >
> > Ah, ok. Are you able to get the font list at all? (worst case, use
> > something that doesn't allocate a font as your session and DISPLAY=:0
> > xlsfonts on the console...)
>
> Or put xlsfonts > file in your .xsession file. I can get the list,
> it looks right, sawfish and netscape and xterm run just fine.
Sigh. LC_ALL=C blackbox seems to fix it. I've filed a bug on blackbox
for this. Sorry guys.
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Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:50:49PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:38:03PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> > David Starner writes:
> >
> > > snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
> > > "%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
> > > "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
> >
> > Ah, ok. Are you able to get the font list at all? (worst case, use
> > something that doesn't allocate a font as your session and DISPLAY=:0
> > xlsfonts on the console...)
>
> Or put xlsfonts > file in your .xsession file. I can get the list,
> it looks right, sawfish and netscape and xterm run just fine.
Sigh. LC_ALL=C blackbox seems to fix it. I've filed a bug on blackbox
for this. Sorry guys.
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Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:38:03PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> David Starner writes:
>
> > snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
> > "%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
> > "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
>
> Ah, ok. Are you able to get the font list at all? (worst case, use
> something that doesn't allocate a font as your session and DISPLAY=:0
> xlsfonts on the console...)
Or put xlsfonts > file in your .xsession file. I can get the list,
it looks right, sawfish and netscape and xterm run just fine.
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Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:38:03PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> David Starner writes:
>
> > snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
> > "%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
> > "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
>
> Ah, ok. Are you able to get the font list at all? (worst case, use
> something that doesn't allocate a font as your session and DISPLAY=:0
> xlsfonts on the console...)
Or put xlsfonts > file in your .xsession file. I can get the list,
it looks right, sawfish and netscape and xterm run just fine.
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Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 12:13:25PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> Although, it's probably a blackbox bug if it exits instead of looking
> for say 'fixed' as a backup.
But it is. See the ltrace, lightly edited for readability:
. . .
strncpy(0xbfffe5d4, "R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-"..., 48) = 0xbfffe5d4
strchr("R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-"..., '-') =
"-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-6"...
__builtin_vec_new(227, 0xbfffe5bc, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) = 0x0808f0c0
snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
"%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
"-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
XFreeFontSet(0x08071bd0, 0x0808c928, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) = 1
XCreateFontSet(0x08071bd0, 0x0808f0c0, 0xbfffe5c8, 0xbfffe5cc, 0xbfffe5d0) = 0
__builtin_vec_delete(0x0808f0c0, 0x0808c928, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) =
0x0808f3f8
catgets(0x08071b60, 6, 4, 0x0806ca00, 0x362d432d) = 0x0806ca00
fprintf(0x4014b600, "BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't l"...
BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't load default font.
) = 50
exit(2) =
__builtin_vec_delete(0x08071b30, 0x08049a1f, 0x4017f01c, 0x40113520, 0x08070430)
= 0x4024cc40
catclose(0x08071b60, 0x08049a1f, 0x4017f01c, 0x40113520, 0x08070430) = 0
__deregister_frame_info(0x08070414, 0x4019, 0xbfffe5fc, 0x0804ace3,
0x0808befc) = 0x080707bc
+++ exited (status 2) +++
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Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
This may just be me, but Blackbox won't run with the latest package of X4. It says it can't load the default font, which, when ltraced, appears to be due to XCreateFontSet returning NULL. (I'm not an X expert, though.) The appropriate sections of my XF86Config file are: # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"speedo" #Load"xtt" Load"freetype" and #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/" -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS
Re: Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 12:13:25PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> Although, it's probably a blackbox bug if it exits instead of looking
> for say 'fixed' as a backup.
But it is. See the ltrace, lightly edited for readability:
. . .
strncpy(0xbfffe5d4, "R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-"..., 48) = 0xbfffe5d4
strchr("R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-"..., '-') =
"-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-6"...
__builtin_vec_new(227, 0xbfffe5bc, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) = 0x0808f0c0
snprintf("-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., 226,
"%s,-*-*-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-*-*-*-*-*"...,
"-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondens"..., "Medium", "R", 13) = 130
XFreeFontSet(0x08071bd0, 0x0808c928, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) = 1
XCreateFontSet(0x08071bd0, 0x0808f0c0, 0xbfffe5c8, 0xbfffe5cc, 0xbfffe5d0) = 0
__builtin_vec_delete(0x0808f0c0, 0x0808c928, 0x0806ca74, 0, 0xbfffe674) =
0x0808f3f8
catgets(0x08071b60, 6, 4, 0x0806ca00, 0x362d432d) = 0x0806ca00
fprintf(0x4014b600, "BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't l"...
BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't load default font.
) = 50
exit(2) =
__builtin_vec_delete(0x08071b30, 0x08049a1f, 0x4017f01c, 0x40113520, 0x08070430)
= 0x4024cc40
catclose(0x08071b60, 0x08049a1f, 0x4017f01c, 0x40113520, 0x08070430) = 0
__deregister_frame_info(0x08070414, 0x4019, 0xbfffe5fc, 0x0804ace3,
0x0808befc) = 0x080707bc
+++ exited (status 2) +++
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Blackbox is crashing on phase 7 of X
This may just be me, but Blackbox won't run with the latest package of X4. It says it can't load the default font, which, when ltraced, appears to be due to XCreateFontSet returning NULL. (I'm not an X expert, though.) The appropriate sections of my XF86Config file are: # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"speedo" #Load"xtt" Load"freetype" and #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/" -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Problems
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:42:08AM -0500, David Starner wrote: Okay, ignore this. It appears to be a hardware problem. Thanks. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter
Mouse Problems
I just suddenly developed a problem with my 3-button PS/2 mouse. X 4.0 is using /dev/mouse, which a simlink to /dev/psaux, and GPM is not installed. At some point soon in an X session, the mouse stops working, and jumps to the left (putting it about 75% to the left) and jumps again to the very edge of the screen (enough time after the first jump to notice it, but not much more - maybe a second.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter
Re: Mouse Problems
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:42:08AM -0500, David Starner wrote: Okay, ignore this. It appears to be a hardware problem. Thanks. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mouse Problems
I just suddenly developed a problem with my 3-button PS/2 mouse. X 4.0 is using /dev/mouse, which a simlink to /dev/psaux, and GPM is not installed. At some point soon in an X session, the mouse stops working, and jumps to the left (putting it about 75% to the left) and jumps again to the very edge of the screen (enough time after the first jump to notice it, but not much more - maybe a second.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clicks when scrolling
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:00:34PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > > If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade > > the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer > > to use up 60% CPU time (Pentium 3 500), according to top (which > > probably isn't helping anything, running in an xterm.) The video > > card is an S3 ViRGE with 2M memory. > > It sounds to me as if you've got an interrupt conflict. What sort of > sound card? It uses the es1371 drivers, and it's a PCI card. It never happened with the old X3.3 packages, and I haven't messed with anything big recently except for X4. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter
Re: Clicks when scrolling
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:00:34PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > > If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade > > the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer > > to use up 60% CPU time (Pentium 3 500), according to top (which > > probably isn't helping anything, running in an xterm.) The video > > card is an S3 ViRGE with 2M memory. > > It sounds to me as if you've got an interrupt conflict. What sort of > sound card? It uses the es1371 drivers, and it's a PCI card. It never happened with the old X3.3 packages, and I haven't messed with anything big recently except for X4. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clicks when scrolling
I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer to use up 60% CPU time (Pentium 3 500), according to top (which probably isn't helping anything, running in an xterm.) The video card is an S3 ViRGE with 2M memory. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter
Clicks when scrolling
I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer to use up 60% CPU time (Pentium 3 500), according to top (which probably isn't helping anything, running in an xterm.) The video card is an S3 ViRGE with 2M memory. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sensible-x-terminal and x-terminal-emulator
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 12:38:29AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > This is mainly what I'm getting it. xterm is actively maintained these > days, and what's more, its maintainer seems to really care about i18n > issues. He's applied dozens of patches from Markus Kuhn, who's heavily > into Unicode support on Linux. Indeed, AFAICT xterm is superior to or on > par with the development pace of any other terminal program in use. This > pace has been masked by the fact that most people don't know that you can > get xterm separate from the XFree86 tree, which releases quite slowly. Of course, xterm feels really clunky compared to many of those - it doesn't have the fancy graphics of the Eterm, or the tabbed windows of Powershell. In fact, the only reason I'm using an xterm right now is that Unicode support, and it's left me wishing for UTF-8 support in another terminal. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, "Rock and Roll Children"
Re: sensible-x-terminal and x-terminal-emulator
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 12:38:29AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > This is mainly what I'm getting it. xterm is actively maintained these > days, and what's more, its maintainer seems to really care about i18n > issues. He's applied dozens of patches from Markus Kuhn, who's heavily > into Unicode support on Linux. Indeed, AFAICT xterm is superior to or on > par with the development pace of any other terminal program in use. This > pace has been masked by the fact that most people don't know that you can > get xterm separate from the XFree86 tree, which releases quite slowly. Of course, xterm feels really clunky compared to many of those - it doesn't have the fancy graphics of the Eterm, or the tabbed windows of Powershell. In fact, the only reason I'm using an xterm right now is that Unicode support, and it's left me wishing for UTF-8 support in another terminal. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, "Rock and Roll Children" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sensible-x-terminal and x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 10:38:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [1] I don't know if this specific example is correct. To the beast of my > limited knowledge, Han is the Chinese character set, Hangul is Korean, and > Japan has at least three: Hirigana, Katakana, and Kanji. I have no idea > what the Vietnamese character set is called. VISCII. Since it's a 8-bit character set that's a subset of Unicode, it's little different from handling any other Latin-script language. (Except - VISCII puts letters in C1 control section, and a couple into the C0 control section.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, "Rock and Roll Children"
Re: sensible-x-terminal and x-terminal-emulator
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 10:38:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [1] I don't know if this specific example is correct. To the beast of my > limited knowledge, Han is the Chinese character set, Hangul is Korean, and > Japan has at least three: Hirigana, Katakana, and Kanji. I have no idea > what the Vietnamese character set is called. VISCII. Since it's a 8-bit character set that's a subset of Unicode, it's little different from handling any other Latin-script language. (Except - VISCII puts letters in C1 control section, and a couple into the C0 control section.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, "Rock and Roll Children" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
