woody packages on potato systems (was: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01)

2000-12-08 Thread Johannes Beigel
Hm. I have a woody system, so that's not really important for me, but..

Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato,
> please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato.

Shouldn't all Debian-Packages work always as long as their dependencies
are fulfilled? (At least any Debian System should be upgradeable with a
simple "apt-get dist-upgrade" from the previous version. Or am I wrong
in this point!?)

> If things break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for
> potato. If it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be
> expected.

My opinion is: If it breaks, the dependencies where not correct.

If it's really as Seth says, it would mean that it's impossible (or pure
luck) to use a mixture of a stable/unstable Debian system. I used to do
this for a long time with slink/potato, however. Sometimes there were
problems because Debian unstable is unstable. But usually all those
difficulties were fixed after a few days by doing a fresh "apt-get
install".

[The price to install a woody-XF4.0.1 on a potato is machine is at least
a new libc6, of course. So if you don't want to upgrade libc6, you
should definitely use Charl P. Botha's potato packages.]

jojo

P.S.: Maybe this should be discussed on debian-devel!?

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woody packages on potato systems (was: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01)

2000-12-08 Thread Johannes Beigel

Hm. I have a woody system, so that's not really important for me, but..

Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato,
> please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato.

Shouldn't all Debian-Packages work always as long as their dependencies
are fulfilled? (At least any Debian System should be upgradeable with a
simple "apt-get dist-upgrade" from the previous version. Or am I wrong
in this point!?)

> If things break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for
> potato. If it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be
> expected.

My opinion is: If it breaks, the dependencies where not correct.

If it's really as Seth says, it would mean that it's impossible (or pure
luck) to use a mixture of a stable/unstable Debian system. I used to do
this for a long time with slink/potato, however. Sometimes there were
problems because Debian unstable is unstable. But usually all those
difficulties were fixed after a few days by doing a fresh "apt-get
install".

[The price to install a woody-XF4.0.1 on a potato is machine is at least
a new libc6, of course. So if you don't want to upgrade libc6, you
should definitely use Charl P. Botha's potato packages.]

jojo

P.S.: Maybe this should be discussed on debian-devel!?

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bound to something easy to type and available in all modes, for example
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Re: Mesa Problem?

2000-09-23 Thread Johannes Beigel
Travis Whitton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm using linux 2.4.0-test8 with DRI support and the r128 module(for my
> Rage 128 card). Whenever I run any Mesa based applications, they flicker
> constantly and improperly render certain parts of the screen. A good
> example of this behavior can be seen by running any of the xlock GL
> hacks.

Same here. If your run (for example) gears as screen saver it looks like
the back buffer is displayed instead of the front buffer. (Something
like this :) gears in a window looks fine, is fast and doesn't flicker.

> Branden, I know that these packages aren't for general use, and that this
> problem probably falls somewhere in the "low priority" section. I also
> understand that you're very busy, so I don't expect this to be fixed
> right away. 

ACK.

jojo

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Re: Mesa Problem?

2000-09-23 Thread Johannes Beigel

Travis Whitton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm using linux 2.4.0-test8 with DRI support and the r128 module(for my
> Rage 128 card). Whenever I run any Mesa based applications, they flicker
> constantly and improperly render certain parts of the screen. A good
> example of this behavior can be seen by running any of the xlock GL
> hacks.

Same here. If your run (for example) gears as screen saver it looks like
the back buffer is displayed instead of the front buffer. (Something
like this :) gears in a window looks fine, is fast and doesn't flicker.

> Branden, I know that these packages aren't for general use, and that this
> problem probably falls somewhere in the "low priority" section. I also
> understand that you're very busy, so I don't expect this to be fixed
> right away. 

ACK.

jojo

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Re: Tried X 4 - doesn't work

2000-09-09 Thread Johannes Beigel
Jean-Philippe Guerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am trying to set up X 4, but the xf86cfg
> program end up with an error message,

It seems I have exactly the same problem here. At least my log output
from xf86cfg is almost identical to yours: Many unresolved symbols in
.../modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o and--just before the end of the file--
these lines:

| This should not happen!
| An unresolved function was called!
|
| Fatal server error:
|
|
|


Are there any known problems with Voodoo3 video cards (I've got a
Voodoo3 2000) that could have something to do with it? Or do I (we) need
some extra 3dfx-related files in addition to the phase2v4-debs?

TIA
jojo

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Re: Tried X 4 - doesn't work

2000-09-09 Thread Johannes Beigel

Jean-Philippe Guerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am trying to set up X 4, but the xf86cfg
> program end up with an error message,

It seems I have exactly the same problem here. At least my log output
from xf86cfg is almost identical to yours: Many unresolved symbols in
.../modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o and--just before the end of the file--
these lines:

| This should not happen!
| An unresolved function was called!
|
| Fatal server error:
|
|
|


Are there any known problems with Voodoo3 video cards (I've got a
Voodoo3 2000) that could have something to do with it? Or do I (we) need
some extra 3dfx-related files in addition to the phase2v4-debs?

TIA
jojo

-- 
Okay, Okay -- I admit it. You didn't change that program that worked
just a little while ago; I inserted some random characters into the
executable.  Please forgive me.  You can recover the file by typing in
the code over again, since I also removed the source.


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