Bug#594623: after upgrade to 2.12.0+legacy1-1 X freeze on gdm start
Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel Version: 2:2.12.0+legacy1-1 Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi any progress on this bug? Reverting blacklisting of 855 seems to be right thing to do, because I really did not see any problems with KMS so far. - -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com - -- Package-specific info: /var/lib/x11/X.roster does not exist. /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum does not exist. X server symlink status: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jan 9 2010 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1725256 Sep 8 19:28 /usr/bin/Xorg /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.roster does not exist. VGA-compatible devices on PCI bus: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist. Kernel version (/proc/version): Linux version 2.6.35-trunk-686 (Debian 2.6.35-1~experimental.3) (m...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.4.5 20100728 (prerelease) (Debian 4.4.4-8) ) #1 SMP Mon Sep 6 17:54:16 UTC 2010 Xorg X server log files on system: - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27198 Sep 14 23:11 /var/log/Xorg.0.log Contents of most recent Xorg X server log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 i686 Debian Current Operating System: Linux nutt 2.6.35-trunk-686 #1 SMP Mon Sep 6 17:54:16 UTC 2010 i686 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.35-trunk-686 root=UUID=e51088ae-1613-417e-9b32-c5bb1e19d288 ro hpet=force lapic quiet Build Date: 08 September 2010 07:20:20PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-6 (Julien Cristau ) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Sep 14 23:08:42 2010 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "" (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x81ea020 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:1014:0557 Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xe000/134217728, 0xd000/524288, I/O @ 0x1800/8 (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:3582:1014:0557 Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xe800/134217728, 0xd008/524288 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX enabled
Bug#596901: xserver-xorg-video-intel: no cursor in X
Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel Version: 2:2.12.0+legacy1-1 Severity: normal Tags: experimental -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi first I have to say there seem to be similar bugs reported (eg. #550701), but I believe the cause here is different. The problem is that mouse cursor is not working in X with 2.6.35 kernel which is currently available in experimental. It works fine with 2.6.32-20 (with 2.6.32-21 it does not start at all, but that's different bug). I really have no idea what other information might be useful, so please ask whatever you will need. - -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com - -- Package-specific info: /var/lib/x11/X.roster does not exist. /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum does not exist. X server symlink status: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jan 9 2010 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1725256 Sep 8 19:28 /usr/bin/Xorg /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.roster does not exist. VGA-compatible devices on PCI bus: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist. Kernel version (/proc/version): Linux version 2.6.35-trunk-686 (Debian 2.6.35-1~experimental.3) (m...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.4.5 20100728 (prerelease) (Debian 4.4.4-8) ) #1 SMP Mon Sep 6 17:54:16 UTC 2010 Xorg X server log files on system: - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27198 Sep 14 23:11 /var/log/Xorg.0.log Contents of most recent Xorg X server log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 i686 Debian Current Operating System: Linux nutt 2.6.35-trunk-686 #1 SMP Mon Sep 6 17:54:16 UTC 2010 i686 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.35-trunk-686 root=UUID=e51088ae-1613-417e-9b32-c5bb1e19d288 ro hpet=force lapic quiet Build Date: 08 September 2010 07:20:20PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-6 (Julien Cristau ) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Sep 14 23:08:42 2010 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "" (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x81ea020 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:1014:0557 Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xe000/134217728, 0xd000/524288, I/O @ 0x1800/8 (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:3582:1014:0557 Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xe800/134217728, 0xd008/524288 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Exte
Bug#446441: xserver-xorg: The problem is in regexp
Hi On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:19:02 -0400 David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This part of the debconfage is going away when I get a chance to figure out > what to do about sparc. In the future, you won't even bother to write this > section to your xorg.conf unless you want to override the default, as it'll > just load the right driver by default. The server and drivers in unstable > can already do this. I did add a patch for some pci id's to radeonhd to do > this too, although I don't think it's complete. You're right, it seems to work without specifying driver in config (I had to rebuild radeonhd from git anyway...). However as long as the debconf code is there, it should list all drivers. (I have no idea when you except to drop this debconf code, but it is far away, I think it should be fixed). -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#446442: I also hit this problem
I just ended up with the same issue, notes about this are here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12843 -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#446441: Info received (xserver-xorg: The problem is in regexp)
tags 446441 patch thanks Well I was wrong with underscore, it did also add other drivers which should be removed. Attached patch seems to work correctly for me. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com diff -ruNp xorg-7.3+2.orig/debian/xserver-xorg.postinst.in xorg-7.3+2/debian/xserver-xorg.postinst.in --- xorg-7.3+2.orig/debian/xserver-xorg.postinst.in 2007-09-17 05:21:48.0 +0900 +++ xorg-7.3+2/debian/xserver-xorg.postinst.in 2007-10-19 09:59:11.0 +0900 @@ -778,7 +778,7 @@ if [ -n "$FIRSTINST" ] || [ -n "$RECONFI # v4l is not a display driver, and dummy is for advanced users. DRIVER_LIST="$(find $REAL_DRIVER_DIRS -name '*_drv.*' \ | sed 's|^.*/\([^/]*\)_drv\.[^\._]*|\1|g' \ - | egrep -v '(atimisc|dummy|r128|radeon|v4l)' | sort -u | xargs \ + | egrep -v '(atimisc|dummy|r128|radeon|v4l)$' | sort -u | xargs \ | sed 's/ /, /g' 2>/dev/null) " fi signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#446441: xserver-xorg: The problem is in regexp
Package: xserver-xorg Version: 1:7.3+2 Followup-For: Bug #446441 The fix for this is simple: Just add underscore to grepping for radeon in acquiring DRIVER_LIST. So doing s/|radeon|/|radeon_|/ in postints fixes this issue. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com
Bug#368732: many programs does not start due to missing fonts
Package: xbase-clients Version: 1:7.0.1-2 Severity: important -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Many programs from xbase-clients fail to start after upgrade to 7.0 Xorg, randomly quoting some errors: $ /usr/bin/xconsole Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Segmentation fault $ /usr/bin/xedit Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Error: Aborting: no font found $ /usr/bin/xfontsel Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Error: Aborting: no font found - -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com - -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (99, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-686-smp Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages xbase-clients depends on: ii libc6 2.3.6-9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libfontconfig1 2.3.2-5.1generic font configuration library ii libfreetype62.2.1-2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libfs6 2:1.0.0-3X11 Font Services library ii libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1]6.4.1-0.4A free implementation of the OpenG ii libice6 1:1.0.0-3X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libpng12-0 1.2.8rel-5.1 PNG library - runtime ii libsm6 1:1.0.0-4X11 Session Management library ii libx11-62:1.0.0-6X11 client-side library ii libxau6 1:1.0.0-3X11 authorisation library ii libxaw7 1:1.0.1-5X11 Athena Widget library ii libxcursor1 1.1.5.2-5X cursor management library ii libxext61:1.0.0-4X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxft2 2.1.8.2-8FreeType-based font drawing librar ii libxi6 1:1.0.0-5X11 Input extension library ii libxkbfile1 1:1.0.2-3X11 keyboard file manipulation lib ii libxmu6 1:1.0.1-3X11 miscellaneous utility library ii libxmuu11:1.0.1-3X11 miscellaneous micro-utility li ii libxrandr2 2:1.1.0.2-4 X11 RandR extension library ii libxrender1 1:0.9.0.2-4 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxss1 1:1.0.1-4X11 Screen Saver extension library ii libxt6 1:1.0.0-5X11 toolkit intrinsics library ii libxtrap6 1:1.0.0-3X11 event trapping extension libra ii libxtst61:1.0.1-3X11 Testing -- Resource extension ii libxv1 1:1.0.1-3X11 Video extension library ii libxxf86dga12:1.0.0-3X11 Direct Graphics Access extensi ii libxxf86vm1 1:1.0.0-4X11 XFree86 video mode extension l ii x11-common 1:7.0.20 X Window System (X.Org) infrastruc ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-11 compression library - runtime xbase-clients recommends no packages. - -- no debconf information -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEdGa33DVS6DbnVgQRAibdAJ97peA7Ncp4xYVz63ya76FXCoffkQCfQXOc hV25MMCcOYGA14XjeRPP1EY= =us8O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#334345: invalid test expression in preinst
Package: x11-common Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9 Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi The preinst script uses -eq for string comparsion, however correct is to use =. Otherwise you might get following error: Preparing to replace x11-common 6.8.2.dfsg.1-8 (using .../x11-common_6.8.2.dfsg.1-9_all.deb) ... [: 937: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-8: bad number -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.12 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages x11-common depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.58 Debian configuration management sy ii debianutils 2.15 Miscellaneous utilities specific t ii lsb-base 3.0-9 Linux Standard Base 3.0 init scrip x11-common recommends no packages. -- debconf information: x11-common/experimental_packages: --- /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.preinst 2005-10-14 09:40:31.0 +0200 +++ /tmp/x11-common.preinst 2005-10-17 13:18:20.028585664 +0200 @@ -911,7 +911,7 @@ # been modified from the stable sarge version. If they have been modified, we # don't do anything, but if they are untouched then we remove them to let the # upgrade continue without errors - if [ "$2" -eq "" ]; then + if [ "$2" = "" ]; then remove_conffile_prepare /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common \ a0f3911120c49038cb87607e3c545b90 remove_conffile_prepare /etc/X11/Xsession \
Bug#233582: Patch seems to work fine
Thanks for the patch, it works fine. In case somebody wants to test binaries, you can get it from http://www.cihar.com/xfree86/ (probably only http://www.cihar.com/xfree86/xlibmesa-gl_4.3.0-2.1_i386.deb is needed, but I'm too lazy to check it more deeply :-). -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com
Bug#234444: glxinfo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm, I probably should have attached also glxinfo output, here it comes... - -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAOoXe3DVS6DbnVgQRAhgYAJ4tsygx2Xe7SBCxCGVv+pq0jrj5zgCghtgG KMK+Cx6IpKYoCjelcZwiq4w= =pxLX -END PGP SIGNATURE- name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.2 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x26 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x27 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x28 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x29 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2a 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2b 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2e 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2f 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x30 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x31 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x32 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
Bug#234093: xvattr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I had simmilar problem and it was caused by "bad" XVideo setting, check output of xvattr, most values on 0 are best to start with. - -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAOnp+3DVS6DbnVgQRAiRyAJ4sTFb8MLSMEuThWXWCtgtcIuIzLwCgmyUJ C7jSqowbOgAXAnE2WgT1bPk= =AaGe -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#225759: Thanks
Thanks a lot, your patch seems to work fine. -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com
Bug#225759: xlibmesa-dri: Radeon 9200 SE (RV280 5964) not detected for DRI
On Thursday 01 of January 2004 18:52, Michel Dänzer wrote: > The attached patch should fix this. Please try appending it to > debian/patches/030b_radeon_rv280_support.diff (or adding it as a > separate patch) and rebuilding xserver-xfree86. Sorry, I can't download 50 MB sources now, maybe on monday... -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com
Bug#225759: A bit more info
The problem in #219916 is probaly the same... -- Regards Michal Čihař http://cihar.com